Lebreton: Boycott

Super_Kazuya · Dec 19, 2013

There's no need for any formal effort on these types of things, it will happen naturally. The problem is, some of you live in the demented fantasy world of your own mind where we are 2-14 every year. But we're not, no matter how much you get down on your knees every night and pray we are.

People WILL eventually stop going to games if they start getting dusted at home a lot. Imagine a season full of the Bears game last year. But we're obviously not there yet.

Risen Star · Dec 19, 2013

BrAinPaiNt said:
Sure...if you say so.

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I do say so. If you don't believe the Dallas media isn't more passive and laid back than what you see in the Northeast I don't know what to tell you. Just like the fans would be more demonstrative about what's going on so would the media.

Zordon · Dec 19, 2013

Risen Star said:
Just look at some of the responses in this thread and you'll understand why a fan revolt will never happen.

They don't even know that they are the problem.

softest fanbase in sports.

Everlastingxxx · Dec 19, 2013

I think apathy has set in. Cowboy fans don’t really care about winning anymore. Bring up the television ratings or how popular the team is and Cowboy fans stick out their chest in pride. Long ago winning used to do that. Only when you are extremely fed up will you do something about it. Like that photo of that business man standing in the way of 4 tanks. Nobody has to start threads or convince anyone about Jerry. Truth is Cowboy fans are now content with a “show”. That goes for me too. I will still watch next week when i probably should find a new hobby.

rcaldw · Dec 19, 2013

HoustonFrog said:
We already had one boycott thread. At least a local writer gets what it takes to get to Jerry. If you read this column with Jerry's quotes it really is scary what Jerrah thinks

http://www.star-telegram.com/2013/12/17/5427571/cowboys-fans-only-hope-boycott.html

Yea, and if he understands it, tell me what he will do? If Jerry gets it, tell me what that will look like? Then go tell me that you really think he will do that. WASTE OF TIME AND ENERGY.

Miller · Dec 19, 2013

Super_Kazuya said:
There's no need for any formal effort on these types of things, it will happen naturally. The problem is, some of you live in the demented fantasy world of your own mind where we are 2-14 every year. But we're not, no matter how much you get down on your knees every night and pray we are.

People WILL eventually stop going to games if they start getting dusted at home a lot. Imagine a season full of the Bears game last year. But we're obviously not there yet.

I don't think people live in a demented world of 2-14. 2-14 would be great. We would have a new coach, a top pick, some excitement of turning it around with some new blood. But no, we are 8-8 and have lived in Jerry's world of "almost there, look we are 8-8 and one game away from playoffs" for decades. THAT is the demented world. Where "almost there" is good enough.

BlindFaith · Dec 19, 2013

AT&T stadium will probably always be full, it just may not be full of Cowboys fans. People with PSLs and season tickets cant just walk away and not go to the games. And even if they did, Jerry still has his money. What they can do, and do do, is sell their tickets to the fans of whatever team is playing that week. DFW is a big enough market that there will normally always be a buyer for someones ticket.
A guy I work with does this all the time. He and a friend bought 4 seats with PSLs. Very good seats. Between the two of them they go to maybe half of the games. The other half they sell their tickets to. And make a very pretty penny.

Miller · Dec 19, 2013

rcaldw said:
Yea, and if he understands it, tell me what he will do? If Jerry gets it, tell me what that will look like? Then go tell me that you really think he will do that. WASTE OF TIME AND ENERGY.

I don't get your point. The issue is that for the last 17 years, etc Jerry has defined insanity with the way he does things over and over. His quote about the last game being entertainment proves that his mentality is "people will come for the spectacle." If he has an empty house and his ego takes a blow why would he then continue? The fact that the apathy has reached a point where people are like "nothing will work, so I'll still go anyways" is kind of pathetic. Do I think he'll hire a GM? Probably not but after his Parcells try I think he has it in him to hire a strong coach who may have personnel say and could right the ship with less meddling. I just think it would be sad, after 38 years of fandom to think nothing can ever be done. Owners with empty seats aren't happy and know the base isn't happy.

Nova · Dec 19, 2013

I think the stereotypical "Bandwagon Cowboys fan" label has hindered a lot of us. We're afraid that if we stop watching or stop going to the games that we'll fall into that category.

There is something that is 'honorable' about sticking with your team through hard times. But I think that's far from the truth of things here.

In this case, sticking by our team we're actually just enabling one misguided individual's ego.

dupree89 · Dec 19, 2013

Doomsay said:
I'm not a local, but it seems like the Dallas media although skeptical of Jerry, don't openly confront him that often. If he got hammered on his radio shows more often perhaps his hobby and media personality fantasy world wouldn't be that appealing to him anymore.

Exactly. Jerry, JG and even Romo are lucky they dont have to face the media in places like NY, Boston or Philly. Because they dont settle for generic answers. They just keep hammering away.

links18 · Dec 19, 2013

HoustonFrog said:
I don't think people live in a demented world of 2-14. 2-14 would be great. We would have a new coach, a top pick, some excitement of turning it around with some new blood. But no, we are 8-8 and have lived in Jerry's world of "almost there, look we are 8-8 and one game away from playoffs" for decades. THAT is the demented world. Where "almost there" is good enough.

Chan Gailey got fired after 10-6, 8-8 and two consecutive trips to the playoffs. Then it took three straight 5-11 seasons for Jerry to can his buddy Campo. Three straight 8-8 seasons from golden boy Garrett is probably enough to convince Jerry he is doing something right.

rcaldw · Dec 19, 2013

HoustonFrog said:
I don't get your point. The issue is that for the last 17 years, etc Jerry has defined insanity with the way he does thins over and over. His quote about the last game being entertainment proves that his mentality is "people will come for the spectacle." If he has an empty house and his ego takes a blow why would he then continue? The fact that the apathy has reached a point where people are like "nothing will work, so I'll still go anyways" is kind of pathetic.

My point is, lets imagine the apathy scenario. Everyone stops going to the games. Everyone stops buying his stuff. All Jerry will do is work this thing in a way that gives a different public image, but he will still run things the same way behind the scenes. You can't make a guy who bought a football team, and thinks the way that guy thinks (megalomaniac) operate in a way he doesn't want to.

So #1 - I don't think fans will ever do what you want them to do. Some are even so foolish as to think Jerry is great.

#2 - Even if we could have this mass response, there is a difference between public perception and private operation. Jerry will still be Jerry.

The only hope is that Jerry REALLY sees the light. What percentage do you place on that happening?

Miller · Dec 19, 2013

links18 said:
Chan Gailey got fired after 10-6, 8-8 and two consecutive trips to the playoffs. Then it took three straight 5-11 seasons for Jerry to can his buddy Campo. Three straight 8-8 seasons from golden boy Garrett is probably enough to convince Jerry he is doing something right.

I think adding the years...17 overall...of 136-136(something like that) is what will be looked at vs. 3 years of 8-8. Jerry thinks he spent big money to put us as a top competitive team.

Super_Kazuya · Dec 19, 2013

Ntegrase96 said:
I think the stereotypical "Bandwagon Cowboys fan" label has hindered a lot of us. We're afraid that if we stop watching or stop going to the games that we'll fall into that category.

There is something that is 'honorable' about sticking with your team through hard times. But I think that's far from the truth of things here.

In this case, sticking by our team we're actually just enabling one misguided individual's ego.

I think it's more of a case of demented fans imagining we're in "hard times". If someone were to actually draft a formal declaration of our boycott, it would look so stupid it would be shredded immediately once they read it. We just don't have a case... YET.

dupree89 · Dec 19, 2013

HoustonFrog said:
I don't think people live in a demented world of 2-14. 2-14 would be great. We would have a new coach, a top pick, some excitement of turning it around with some new blood. But no, we are 8-8 and have lived in Jerry's world of "almost there, look we are 8-8 and one game away from playoffs" for decades. THAT is the demented world. Where "almost there" is good enough.

Bingo! Give me 2-14, 3-13 with a PLAN.
A PLAN with a FOOTBALL GUY calling the shots. Gut the team, start over. Have a 3-13 year then maybe jump to 6-10, then 10-6 and a playoff trip and then that 4th year look out for the Cowboys!
7-9, 8-8 and no playoffs is no man's land. All we get is Jerry with his *wink* and the proclomation that "we're real close".

CowboyGil · Dec 19, 2013

Risen Star said:
There is fan apathy but for every fan with a clue there's a melvin ready to take his seat to show his loyalty to his team. Go Cowboys and all that.

I don't cheer for Jerry, I cheer for the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

Miller · Dec 19, 2013

rcaldw said:
My point is, lets imagine the apathy scenario. Everyone stops going to the games. Everyone stops buying his stuff. All Jerry will do is work this thing in a way that gives a different public image, but he will still run things the same way behind the scenes. You can't make a guy who bought a football team, and thinks the way that guy thinks (megalomaniac) operate in a way he doesn't want to.

So #1 - I don't think fans will ever do what you want them to do. Some are even so foolish as to think Jerry is great.

#2 - Even if we could have this mass response, there is a difference between public perception and private operation. Jerry will still be Jerry.

The only hope is that Jerry REALLY sees the light. What percentage do you place on that happening?

Agree completely. Sadly, hoping he sees the light is the ONLY hope. That or his son sees the light after Jerry goes. Thus discussing the minute hope that something works. As I said above, the Parcells deal makes me think that he has it in him at some point but he also has grown more stubborn since then and he used to be a little more free wheeling when it came to bringing in pieces..TO, etc. I get what you're saying but somehow you have to hope Jerry will realize that his face was everywhere when he won with someone like Jimmy. Business would dictate you go back to that and people would celebrate you again.

dupree89 · Dec 19, 2013

Super_Kazuya said:
I think it's more of a case of demented fans imagining we're in "hard times". If someone were to actually draft a formal declaration of our boycott, it would look so stupid it would be shredded immediately once they read it. We just don't have a case... YET.

I suppose it all depends on what each fan describes as hard times. I dont tell anyone else how to think and I dont need anyone telling me what to think when it comes to how bad this franchise has become.

Unless I missed something along the way, I count 12 teams in the NFL that have had a longer drought when it comes to Super Bowl appearances. Just 12. And only 3 in the NFC. So, all except 3 NFC teams have been to a Super Bowl since Dallas was last in one. By MY definition, thats hard times. When teams like Arizona, Tampa, Philly, Atlanta etc have all been to a Super Bowl since Dallas has, then in my opinion thats a franchise failure. Like I said, I'm not trying to convince others to feel like I do...I do my own thinking and I think this team has been a non-factor for too long. Its an embarrassment IMO.

CowboyGil · Dec 19, 2013

Ntegrase96 said:
I think the stereotypical "Bandwagon Cowboys fan" label has hindered a lot of us. We're afraid that if we stop watching or stop going to the games that we'll fall into that category.

There is something that is 'honorable' about sticking with your team through hard times. But I think that's far from the truth of things here.

In this case, sticking by our team we're actually just enabling one misguided individual's ego.

This. It's a double-edged sword.And articles like this actually feed JJ's ego more. Remember: There is no such thing as BAD press.

jobberone · Dec 19, 2013

Risen Star said:
Just look at some of the responses in this thread and you'll understand why a fan revolt will never happen.

They don't even know that they are the problem.

Oh please. The fans have yet to play one snap. Ever.

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