Twitter: Melton has left the building; on way to STL

Idgit · Mar 18, 2014

BrAinPaiNt said:
Is this a remake of the slim shady song?

Please stand up, please stand up.

Little Jr · Mar 18, 2014

ufcrules1 said:
You realize some people who liked this post think Bass is just as good as Melton.. Ha

who would that be?

BrAinPaiNt · Mar 18, 2014

Idgit said:
Please stand up, please stand up.

Keep going...still don't think you will get anyone to stand up for that one.

Alexander · Mar 18, 2014

CowboysLaw87 said:
Louis Riddick ‏@LRiddickESPN 14m
Not that surprising Melton is still on the market. Pre-Injury tape in '13 is poor, & is coming off an ACL? No thanks. Wait till after draft.

Louis Riddick ‏@LRiddickESPN 11m
Competitiveness issues very frustrating when watching him play. Should be so much better than he is. Needs strong group around him.

Hmmm... just one man's opinion, but the red flags are really starting to pile up.

Well, there is the fact he had Julius Peppers playing next to him.

In Dallas, as it stands right now, Jeremy Mincey. Kind of a big difference.

Doomsday101 · Mar 18, 2014

Idgit said:
Is it true what was reported earlier, that DEN was prepared to give Allen that deal that they ended up giving to Ware as their first preference?

I don't think Allen ends up with Ware money this much later in VFA. I think he's looking more at Peppers' money, at best, with maybe an extra year added on because his level of play has been stable the whole time.

according to Rapoport he is saying 3 years 30 mill area or he is willing to walk away from Football. You are right he was looking for a deal with Denver but the deal fell through when they signed Ware

CowboysLaw87 · Mar 18, 2014

Alexander said:
Well, there is the fact he had Julius Peppers playing next to him.

In Dallas, as it stands right now, Jeremy Mincey. Kind of a big difference.

The competitiveness issue is sort of separate from the "he got lots of help" line of argument. Riddick even suggests that he's supremely talented. When I read the opinion that he needs a strong group around him, I took that to mean from a football character perspective. Like, he needs workers around him to bump his competitive flare. No matter what he meant, clearly Jared Allen would be a heck of a guy to put next to him. But man oh man, between the ACL (least concerning), off field issues and now questionable on-field character... woof.

Alexander · Mar 18, 2014

CowboysLaw87 said:
The competitiveness issue is sort of separate from the "he got lots of help" line of argument. Riddick even suggests that he's supremely talented. When I read the opinion that he needs a strong group around him, I took that to mean from a football character perspective. Like, he needs workers around him to bump his competitive flare. No matter what he meant, clearly Jared Allen would be a heck of a guy to put next to him. But man oh man, between the ACL (least concerning), off field issues and now questionable on-field character... woof.

I do not think there is, well now, was, a realistic chance of having both in Dallas. If Melton was the choice, then he automatically becomes the alpha male on that DL. I can see how that would bother some people who do not have much faith in him.

big dog cowboy · Mar 18, 2014

gimmesix said:
FA isn't over, but I don't think Dallas wants to pay what these guys are looking for.

Congrats you get a 'like' for that.

manster1966 · Mar 18, 2014

If one or both of Them is not signed, Our Defense will set records of ineptitude that will never be broken. Romo only has a few years left. The team has to go all in now. You do not let go Your 2 best defensive players go without a plan.All We need is a average defense to be scary. With no NFL starter quality defensive line players on Our roster, We have no chance.

Idgit · Mar 18, 2014

Doomsday101 said:
according to Rapoport he is saying 3 years 30 mill area or he is willing to walk away from Football. You are right he was looking for a deal with Denver but the deal fell through when they signed Ware

Yeah. I just have a hard time believing that's his real number. If DEN preferred Ware to Allen, then that's a measure right there of one team's valuation of his relative worth. Add a couple weeks of FA, the fact that Dallas was reportedly interested in Peppers first, and that Peppers then got signed to a lesser deal than Ware got. Time goes by. I think Peppers' money is his high water mark, and that Allen probably won't discount anything much from there. Realistically, ~$15M over two years is a lot of bank to walk away from at 32 years old. It's not like he's looking at a couple years at just a few million per.

Doomsday101 · Mar 18, 2014

Idgit said:
Yeah. I just have a hard time believing that's his real number. If DEN preferred Ware to Allen, then that's a measure right there of one team's valuation of his relative worth. Add a couple weeks of FA, the fact that Dallas was reportedly interested in Peppers first, and that Peppers then got signed to a lesser deal than Ware got. Time goes by. I think Peppers' money is his high water mark, and that Allen probably won't discount anything much from there. Realistically, ~$15M over two years is a lot of bank to walk away from at 32 years old. It's not like he's looking at a couple years at just a few million per.

All of this could be a bluff but just based on what Rapoport was reporting, Allen is very principled and wants what he wants or else he will walk away from the game with no regrets. All I know is the figure that Rapoport said Allen is expecting.
I really did not feel the Cowboys have a chance at getting Allen, be nice if they could but just not expecting this to happen

Beast_from_East · Mar 18, 2014

So both guys left without deals?

So we are going with Crawford/Bass/Hayden/Selvie?

This is like an NFL Europa DL, we seriously are going to get laughed at by opposing offenses........LMAO

Idgit · Mar 18, 2014

Doomsday101 said:
All of this could be a bluff but just based on what Rapoport was reporting, Allen is very principled and wants what he wants or else he will walk away from the game with no regrets. All I know is the figure that Rapoport said Allen is expecting.
I really did not feel the Cowboys have a chance at getting Allen, be nice if they could but just not expecting this to happen

Yeah, I do think JA has a drop-dead number. And it's a high one, and should be, given his level of play. I just don't think it's $10M/per.

Idgit · Mar 18, 2014

Beast_from_East said:
So both guys left without deals?

So we are going with Crawford/Bass/Hayden/Selvie?

This is like an NFL Europa DL, we seriously are going to get laughed at by opposing offenses........LMAO

The offseason in the NFL is long, Beast. There's 0% chance we go into a season with our current lineup. We just have to wait and see how bad it really might be.

Doomsday101 · Mar 18, 2014

Idgit said:
Yeah, I do think JA has a drop-dead number. And it's a high one, and should be, given his level of play. I just don't think it's $10M/per.

I don't know, he may come off that some but if he is serious about retiring then I don't think he will come down off that number by much. I think the main key is, is the ready to walk away from the game if he is then he is in a position to call his own shots for the money he wants.

bysbox1 · Mar 18, 2014

MonsterD said:
Only Dallas and Seattle, but supposedly there are 3 other teams he has been in contact with.

I believe Allen went to Denver too. They were ready to offer him a deal before D.Ware got cut . . . . .

Idgit · Mar 18, 2014

Doomsday101 said:
I don't know, he may come off that some but if he is serious about retiring then I don't think he will come down off that number by much. I think the main key is, is the ready to walk away from the game if he is then he is in a position to call his own shots for the money he wants.

$15-16M over two years is an awful lot to walk away from. No matter what he's done with is earlier money, that's enough to change your lifestyle fairly dramatically for the better. I guess what I'm saying is that he might be willing to walk from that, but he'd be an idiot if he did.

I guess we'll see what he does here, soon enough.

Nightman · Mar 18, 2014

Neither of these guys have ever been Free Agents. Melton thought he was going to be one last year and CHI franchised him. KC traded Allen to MINN for two 2nds and a 1st and MINN locked him up immediately. They may just be enjoying the recruiting process.

Allen says he can walk away, but I doubt DEN offered him the Ware contract and he turned it down.
Melton has the chance to be really good, but his off-field issues may hurt his bottom line.

CyberB0b · Mar 18, 2014

Beast_from_East said:
So both guys left without deals?

So we are going with Crawford/Bass/Hayden/Selvie?

This is like an NFL Europa DL, we seriously are going to get laughed at by opposing offenses........LMAO

Yeah, but at least they'll play hard for Rod.

durrrr · Mar 18, 2014

Tons of overreacting to Melton taking other visits itt...

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