Offensive PI on Beasley

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Did anyone ever see the one they called on Beasley Sunday? I want to know if we can call these pick plays everyone runs on us or if we will get called for OpI. Or if we don't run them correctly. Because by my count we've run 3 or 4 and been called for 2. I guess that was the street call.
 
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TheDallasDon said:
I know people say there's no favoritism but Pats can run those all day and get one call against them.....maybe
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Pats and the Packers run a lot of them. It is probably just how you do it and the ref is not going to catch the blatant pick plays all the time since unintentional collisions happen nearly every play. The NFL in general really has no reason to show any favoritism towards the Pats at this point though.
 
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The replay never showed the Beasley one. Maybe someone who has the all 22 can describe it.
 
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The issue when we run it, we run it once. Seattle and NE run his consistently throughout the game. If they get a penalty it's one of out 10-15 times. We run it once and never do it again because we are scared. Also, if you don't practice it over and over you won't be good at it and it is obvious during the game. Just my .02.
 
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Carharris2 said:
Did anyone ever see the one they called on Beasley Sunday? I want to know if we can call these pick plays everyone runs on us or if we will get called for OpI. Or if we don't run them correctly. Because by my count we've run 3 or 4 and been called for 2. I guess that was the street call.
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We don't run them real well. The idea is to make it just look like you were running your route by not throwing a shoulder into the defender or protecting yourself like you expected to block. Some receivers are really good at setting themselves up in the path and actually making the defender make the contact. Our receivers/tight ends look like they are trying to block on pick plays and get called for it.

Frankly, if you're going to commit to having them as part of your playbook, you need to seriously work on them just like with screens or any other play that calls for a type of precision. I do not like the pick plays and believe they should be called every time because they the offense an unfair advantage, but if the officials are not going to call them regularly, I believe Dallas should take advantage of that advantage.
 
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Teams are starting to figure out refs can't call penalties on every single play - so just break the same rule over and over if the payoff is worth it. Seattle with DPI, now the Pats and some others with OPI, Eagles with OH/DH, etc.
 
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I was wondering myself why they didn't show a replay.. maybe the Eagles snap the ball too fast.
 
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All these problems of picks and OPI can be solved if teams were able to challenge OPI plays.
 
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That's the funny thing with cheating, you have to practice it to be good at it otherwise it's much more obvious when you do it.
 
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gimmesix said:
We don't run them real well. The idea is to make it just look like you were running your route by not throwing a shoulder into the defender or protecting yourself like you expected to block. Some receivers are really good at setting themselves up in the path and actually making the defender make the contact. Our receivers/tight ends look like they are trying to block on pick plays and get called for it.

Frankly, if you're going to commit to having them as part of your playbook, you need to seriously work on them just like with screens or any other play that calls for a type of precision. I do not like the pick plays and believe they should be called every time because they the offense an unfair advantage, but if the officials are not going to call them regularly, I believe Dallas should take advantage of that advantage.
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I didn't see the one on Beasley as I said but the one on Street was not a penalty. The Saints player really didn't even try to hide his pick that injured our guy.
Neither was many of the Patriots. Imo. Seattle got away with several too. Although, they're allowed pretend timeouts so...

There really seems to be a double standard. I know it sounds like I'm whining. But I'll stand by my whining as legit.
 
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Saw this :

On getting called for a penalty on a pick play.

Cole Beasley: I was running across the field. I saw the backer, I was actually trying to avoid him. But when I planted on my left foot, I rolled my ankle a little bit. I got stuck, so I ended up just running right into him. I actually was trying to avoid him though. I didn't want no part of that guy.
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They need to seperate that rat pack, IMO.
 
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I didn't see a replay either, but I did rewind (DVR) and watch the play. I actually thought Beas was hurt on the play
 
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Man that option route with Witten would be perfect for this, just have him stop and turn in front of a defender and light someone up.
 
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Carharris2 said:
I didn't see the one on Beasley as I said but the one on Street was not a penalty. The Saints player really didn't even try to hide his pick that injured our guy.
Neither was many of the Patriots. Imo. Seattle got away with several too. Although, they're allowed pretend timeouts so...

There really seems to be a double standard. I know it sounds like I'm whining. But I'll stand by my whining as legit.
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Although the one on Street should not have been called, he was blocking downfield. He just happened to start doing it at the same time McFadden got the ball. I don't know about the one on Beasley, but past ones I've seen called against us have been easy calls

Now, that doesn't mean the officials haven't missed easy calls on other picks. However, I've seen plenty of pick plays that haven't been called because the offensive player did such a great job of selling that he was actually just running a route. I've rarely, if ever, seen a Dallas player under Garrett look like he was just running his route.
 
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