If Washington beats us, and unless Dak does something incredible

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fortdick said:
if Washington beats us, and unless Dak does something incredible, I would go with Sanchez until Romo gets back.

Now before you rip me up, follow the logic. Dak has shown the tools to play in this league. He has also demonstrated he still has some learning to go through. I would hate to see him go 0-6 or 1-5, then get replaced and have Romo turn it around and finish the season 7-1.

That would do two things, both bad. First, fans and media would blame all the losses on Dak. Even worse, Dak would blame all the losses on Dak. We know that he is a rookie and experience is important, but once he gets a mind set of losing, it is extremely difficult to get rid of it. His confidence could be seriously impacted.

Sanchez has the experience, and could accept the losses without near as much damage. He understands his role, and it isn't like he hasn't gone through it before. His experience might win an extra game or so, as well.

Think of what happened to Carr in Houston. We could easily ruin Dak by throwing him to the wolves.
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Very good point ! And difficult to argue. Weighing the need for experience versus the lasting damage not only to his confidence but the coaches and fans confidence.

And would we then still need to be looking in draft for our heir apparent ?
 
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lol. Why would any fan go with Mark. In the worse case...Prescott is a failure...the club gets a high pick QB and goes forward and wins. The future is with a young stud QB backed by the best OL in football and supported by Elliott and Morris. Then the FO gets a new coaching staff with a stud QB and drafts some killer DE's and DT's and go rip the NFCE to pieces. Its the start to winning again..
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That's a thought also. Although bringing Sanchez doesn't have to be just about winning games it's about not destroying or further damaging Dak's confidence. Most likely we'd still have that high draft pick with Sanchez.

Unless we are determined to see if Dak is it this year? A swim or sink audition?
 
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Our QBs are Dak and Sanchez. Both will likely still be with us next season. While Dak needs a lot of reps, Sanchez also needs at least a couple of games - he needs to be evaluated for the long term veteran backup, possible interim starter role. What he's done on other teams shouldn't matter at this stage - we need to see how he performs in Dallas.

Both QBs need thorough evaluation and the outcome will determine what, if any new QBs we need to draft/sign for 2017.
 
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fortdick said:
if Washington beats us, and unless Dak does something incredible, I would go with Sanchez until Romo gets back.

Now before you rip me up, follow the logic. Dak has shown the tools to play in this league. He has also demonstrated he still has some learning to go through. I would hate to see him go 0-6 or 1-5, then get replaced and have Romo turn it around and finish the season 7-1.

That would do two things, both bad. First, fans and media would blame all the losses on Dak. Even worse, Dak would blame all the losses on Dak. We know that he is a rookie and experience is important, but once he gets a mind set of losing, it is extremely difficult to get rid of it. His confidence could be seriously impacted.

Sanchez has the experience, and could accept the losses without near as much damage. He understands his role, and it isn't like he hasn't gone through it before. His experience might win an extra game or so, as well.

Think of what happened to Carr in Houston. We could easily ruin Dak by throwing him to the wolves.
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Sorry but by far, the most damaging thing for Dak to endure would be for the FO and the staff to give up on him after a week one loss. I appreciate the good intentions and all but that just wouldn't be a wise approach. Benching him now in favor of Sanchez would also signal the team as a whole that they can't count on Dak to lead them. Benching him now would surely be catastrophically damaging to Dak and the team as a whole, imho. What Dak needs more than anything right now is to know that the staff and his team is solidly behind him. Doing that should allow Dak and his team their best chance to succeed.
 
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plymkr said:
I believe Aikman was 0-11. The only victory we got in 1989 was against washington and I believe Steve Walsh (who Jimmy used a #1 overall pick on) was the starter because Aikman broke a finger or two. I think his pinky finger.
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he turned out ok. :)

but yes, that is how i remember watching it happen. :)

there isn't 1 single path to success in the NFL or everyone would be successful. there isn't 1 way to bring up a qb or everyone would do it. each is it's own situation where while things are fluid around the player, it's still up to the player to "figure it out" and that's what we need to find out from dak. it would be nice to give him time to learn and grow, sure.

we don't have it to give. our plans got changed so lets see what the kid can do. saying we're just hurting him mentally right now to me is the "snowflake" way of thinking. you can't pick your situation all the time.

but you *can* pick how you deal with it. up to dak from here, i'm just watching on my tv.
 
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plymkr said:
I believe Aikman was 0-11. The only victory we got in 1989 was against washington and I believe Steve Walsh (who Jimmy used a #1 overall pick on) was the starter because Aikman broke a finger or two. I think his pinky finger.
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Exactly. Prescott is a QB and is not that fragile. Like Troy he can survive adversity that is part of growing. Don Meredith won exactly 1 game for the upstart Cowboys and he also went on to have a great career.
 
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fortdick said:
if Washington beats us, and unless Dak does something incredible, I would go with Sanchez until Romo gets back.

Now before you rip me up, follow the logic. Dak has shown the tools to play in this league. He has also demonstrated he still has some learning to go through. I would hate to see him go 0-6 or 1-5, then get replaced and have Romo turn it around and finish the season 7-1.

That would do two things, both bad. First, fans and media would blame all the losses on Dak. Even worse, Dak would blame all the losses on Dak. We know that he is a rookie and experience is important, but once he gets a mind set of losing, it is extremely difficult to get rid of it. His confidence could be seriously impacted.

Sanchez has the experience, and could accept the losses without near as much damage. He understands his role, and it isn't like he hasn't gone through it before. His experience might win an extra game or so, as well.

Think of what happened to Carr in Houston. We could easily ruin Dak by throwing him to the wolves.
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Please C'MON already....i read this and i want to gag just to get that churning feeling out of my stomach. He wants to be in the NFL then man up!!!! Lets just put a bib on the man and pass him a bottle of similac!!!!! Who knows maybe JJ can convince Garrett to rock him to sleep at nights also!!!!!!!
 
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fortdick said:
if Washington beats us, and unless Dak does something incredible, I would go with Sanchez until Romo gets back.

Now before you rip me up, follow the logic. Dak has shown the tools to play in this league. He has also demonstrated he still has some learning to go through. I would hate to see him go 0-6 or 1-5, then get replaced and have Romo turn it around and finish the season 7-1.

That would do two things, both bad. First, fans and media would blame all the losses on Dak. Even worse, Dak would blame all the losses on Dak. We know that he is a rookie and experience is important, but once he gets a mind set of losing, it is extremely difficult to get rid of it. His confidence could be seriously impacted.

Sanchez has the experience, and could accept the losses without near as much damage. He understands his role, and it isn't like he hasn't gone through it before. His experience might win an extra game or so, as well.

Think of what happened to Carr in Houston. We could easily ruin Dak by throwing him to the wolves.
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It's too late to go that route now. Sanchez has no experience in this scheme.

Cassel all over again. Just take your lumps with the kid at this point. He's mentally tough enough to handle it.
 
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Alexander said:
So you are saying he would just be ruined by many more losses, so insert Sad Sack Sanchez to spare his ego?

If that is how Prescott would react, he's not an NFL QB.
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Couldn't agree more. He is not our guy if he lacks the intestinal & mental fortitude to deal with successive losses. Already too many weak-minded players on this team.
 
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Dak came basically one more play from bringing us back for a game winning drive in his first NFL start, overcoming all of the issues we are discussing this week .

The vibe would be much different if Bailey has time to get that kick off for a victory .
 
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If they put in Sanchez because Dak lost to Washington, this coaching staff needs to be fired. If you start a rookie, you let him play and get his bumps out of the way. If Dak stinks it up after several games, it's one thing to then sit him, but if you sit him because of a couple of losses, which could be done to the defense not showing up or a myriad of other reasons, then that's a problem. It shows the coaching staff has no idea on how to develop a QB. When you start a rookie, you come in under the assumption they are going to make mistakes. The last thing you want to do to a rookie QB is have him always looking over his shoulder and being afraid to make mistakes.
 
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We need to see what we have in Dak and it would be too soon to pull him after two games.
 
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fortdick said:
if Washington beats us, and unless Dak does something incredible, I would go with Sanchez until Romo gets back.

Now before you rip me up, follow the logic. Dak has shown the tools to play in this league. He has also demonstrated he still has some learning to go through. I would hate to see him go 0-6 or 1-5, then get replaced and have Romo turn it around and finish the season 7-1.

That would do two things, both bad. First, fans and media would blame all the losses on Dak. Even worse, Dak would blame all the losses on Dak. We know that he is a rookie and experience is important, but once he gets a mind set of losing, it is extremely difficult to get rid of it. His confidence could be seriously impacted.

Sanchez has the experience, and could accept the losses without near as much damage. He understands his role, and it isn't like he hasn't gone through it before. His experience might win an extra game or so, as well.

Think of what happened to Carr in Houston. We could easily ruin Dak by throwing him to the wolves.
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I say we let Dak play it out and if we find out his psyche is that fragile then he probably is not fit to be the QB of the Dallas Cowboys. He is in a very tough position and you have to be able to rebound from disappointment and loss.

I also don't think it is a forgone conclusion that David Carr was a great quarterback who was ruined by the Houston Texans. Just my .02
 
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Absolutely not. Prescott gives the team a better chance to win. If they lose, Garrett should probably start worrying about keeping his job. Sanchez will always turn the ball over. That's what he does. He'll throw 3 touchdowns in a half. Then the second half he'll throw 3 interceptions.
 
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Diehardblues said:
Dak came basically one more play from bringing us back for a game winning drive in his first NFL start, overcoming all of the issues we are discussing this week .

The vibe would be much different if Bailey has time to get that kick off for a victory .
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you are kidding. Prescott over achieved in that game. He should only get better.
 
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fortdick said:
if Washington beats us, and unless Dak does something incredible, I would go with Sanchez until Romo gets back.

Now before you rip me up, follow the logic. Dak has shown the tools to play in this league. He has also demonstrated he still has some learning to go through. I would hate to see him go 0-6 or 1-5, then get replaced and have Romo turn it around and finish the season 7-1.

That would do two things, both bad. First, fans and media would blame all the losses on Dak. Even worse, Dak would blame all the losses on Dak. We know that he is a rookie and experience is important, but once he gets a mind set of losing, it is extremely difficult to get rid of it. His confidence could be seriously impacted.

Sanchez has the experience, and could accept the losses without near as much damage. He understands his role, and it isn't like he hasn't gone through it before. His experience might win an extra game or so, as well.

Think of what happened to Carr in Houston. We could easily ruin Dak by throwing him to the wolves.
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Sanchez at QB is the dumbest idea I have heard yet.
 
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