I'm willing to stick with Garrett if

triplets92 · Jan 16, 2017

Gameover said:
Didn't attack you personally. I used your word against you.

Hmm. Don't remember saying the word "idiot" but hey, no worries.

thunderpimp91 · Jan 16, 2017

triplets92 said:
First off if you cannot debate without personally attacking a complete stranger then that speaks more towards your lack of brain activity. Second. As I said. This has not been a good defense under him and I acknowledge that he hasn't had the talent on this unit. But why is it so crazy to suggest a defensive draft and a new coordinator with a fresh approach?

I'm staying out of that first part of the post.

Nothing wrong with discussing anything based upon the results we have received the past 3 seasons. Ultimately I would have to ask if it's fair to take a mans job without giving him the proper resources to do that job? We can nitpick certain playcalls and certain situations all day, but more often than not Rods defenses have played very good situational football.

Coy · Jan 16, 2017

Garrett has 1 playoff win in 6 and a half years as HC, while having great QB play most of the time, good to great RB and WR play and an average to bad defense.

That means Garrett is not doing his job, not saying he should be fired, it's just that this is about results and Frankly he hasn't delivered.

haleyrules · Jan 16, 2017

Garrett is a HC'ing flyweight. He always gets out coached when it really counts. But...he makes great excuses. Anyway, he is ole Jerry boys favourite son so he isn't going anywhere anytime soon. Too bad.

Doomsday · Jan 16, 2017

CATCH17 said:
I like Marinelli but he just doesn't have an answer for Rodgers.

Everyone is criticizing the pass rush yesterday but I think a lot of the lack of a rush was by design and we were more worried about not letting Rodgers leave the pocket.

From now on I don't ever want to see our defense play scared like that. Play tight coverage and go after that guy and let the chips fall where they may.

That has been a HUGE problem with Marinelli. He tends to play scared and let teams march up and down the field hoping to keep them out of the end zone. We saw the same exact thing vs the Commanders on Thanksgiving and in other games.

It seemed like when the defense really needed a stop they got very aggressive and it worked, than he went right back to the 8 yard cushions and they paid for it.

KB1122 · Jan 17, 2017

What does it matter what you want? He's here to stay.

And he should be.

RicardoSegovia · Jan 17, 2017

IMO if the DC can add defensive talent via free agency and the draft coach Rod Marinelli will have a top 5 defense in 2017. Once coach Marinelli moves on/retires I am hopeful coach Matt Eberflus is promoted the defensive coordinator. Coach Eberflus knows the Rob Ryan 3-4 defense and Rod Marinelli 4-3 Defense, I honestly believe Coach Eberflus will implement a hybrid defense based off Ryan/Marinelli concepts.

MileyDancer · Jan 20, 2017

BrAinPaiNt said:
Coach Rod has done his best to take chicken crap talent and make a chicken salad defense.

This excuse is tired. You can scheme to make up for lack of talent.

BrAinPaiNt · Jan 20, 2017

MileyDancer said:
This excuse is tired. You can scheme to make up for lack of talent.

I do not think it is an excuse... I think it is fact.

Our best looking pass rusher towards the end of the season... Was plucked from the practice squad of another team

Sarge · Jan 21, 2017

Proximo said:
Everyone and their brother was saying that the lack of talent on defense would ultimately be our undoing.

It was.

Firing the DC that helped us defy the odds and make it this far does not help improve that lack of talent.

This.

CalPolyTechnique · Jan 21, 2017

Risen Star said:
Not me. He was dead to me when I saw how he used Zeke this year and then his approach to the end of the season.

Find a man to coach the team.

Couldn't agree more.

There's a lot that I respect about Garrett, but I have no confidence in his coaching ability (primarily game management). He's not a person that can dynamically process information, game situations, et cetera; he clams up.

I really believe he'd be a great college coach where the rigidity of his coaching approach suits young men that need direction and is attractive to recruits and their families.

TRUTH87 · Jan 22, 2017

Risen Star said:
Not me. He was dead to me when I saw how he used Zeke this year and then his approach to the end of the season.

Find a man to coach the team.

next season if we have a healthy team and a better defense and team finds themselves w a losing record, i think JJ pulls the trigger. thats the only way. if we make playoffs again and lose. JG isnt going anywhwere

Risen Star · Jan 22, 2017

ka0tik said:
next season if we have a healthy team and a better defense and team finds themselves w a losing record, i think JJ pulls the trigger. thats the only way. if we make playoffs again and lose. JG isnt going anywhwere

I agree with that. I don't even know if he'd go with a losing season next year. Would have to be a real train wreck.

Stryker44 · Jan 23, 2017

triplets92 said:
Coach Rod Marinelli is fired. I respect his credentials and his knowledge but I feel that maybe he's better as just a position coach. The cover two schem we run is outdated and too vanilla. I understand that he hasn't had a surplus of talent on the defense but it will be nice to have a defensive heavy draft and get some fresh eyes on this group.

Hey, it's been fun watching a scrappy group of "try hard" guys hustle the past few seasons but we constantly play scared and it caught up with us. We're stuck with Garret at least for another season but I really hope they get a new defensive coaching staff next year.

How does Marinelli keep his job when Rob Ryan was fired?

yimyammer · Jan 26, 2017

triplets92 said:
Coach Rod Marinelli is fired. I respect his credentials and his knowledge but I feel that maybe he's better as just a position coach. The cover two schem we run is outdated and too vanilla. I understand that he hasn't had a surplus of talent on the defense but it will be nice to have a defensive heavy draft and get some fresh eyes on this group.

Hey, it's been fun watching a scrappy group of "try hard" guys hustle the past few seasons but we constantly play scared and it caught up with us. We're stuck with Garret at least for another season but I really hope they get a new defensive coaching staff next year.

haleyrules · Jan 26, 2017

ka0tik said:
next season if we have a healthy team and a better defense and team finds themselves w a losing record, i think JJ pulls the trigger. thats the only way. if we make playoffs again and lose. JG isnt going anywhwere

Jason has some colour photos of ole Jerry boy and various farm animals.

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Jake · Jan 26, 2017

MileyDancer said:
This excuse is tired. You can scheme to make up for lack of talent.

Really? Then what are all of those threads and posts about signing free agents and a defense-heavy draft about? Just pick up a few guys off the street and spend the draft focusing on offense. What's the worst that could happen?

Eric_Boyer · Jan 26, 2017

Risen Star said:
Not me. He was dead to me when I saw how he used Zeke this year and then his approach to the end of the season.

Find a man to coach the team.

dumbest post from you yet - and the bar was set pretty high long ago

cml750 · Feb 5, 2017

triplets92 said:
Coach Rod Marinelli is fired. I respect his credentials and his knowledge but I feel that maybe he's better as just a position coach. The cover two schem we run is outdated and too vanilla. I understand that he hasn't had a surplus of talent on the defense but it will be nice to have a defensive heavy draft and get some fresh eyes on this group.

Hey, it's been fun watching a scrappy group of "try hard" guys hustle the past few seasons but we constantly play scared and it caught up with us. We're stuck with Garret at least for another season but I really hope they get a new defensive coaching staff next year.

Marinelli is the least of out problems with the staff. The guy made chicken salad out of chicken crap all year.

cml750 · Feb 5, 2017

Risen Star said:
Not me. He was dead to me when I saw how he used Zeke this year and then his approach to the end of the season.

Find a man to coach the team.

We have already wasted the career of one franchise QB on Garrett and are now on our way to doing it again. To top it off he proved in 2015 he can't even be a .500 coach without a franchise QB. The guy offers nothing and COTY was a joke.

I'm willing to stick with Garrett if

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