Bargains in the draft

xwalker · May 3, 2017

Which non-Cowboys picks do you think were bargains?

Some that I think were bargains:
2 41 Dalvin Cook RB
3 78 Tim Williams DE
3 80 Tarell Basham DE
3 81 Fabian Moreau CB
3 82 Carlos Henderson WR
3 83 Derek Rivers DE
3 90 Shaquill Griffin CB
3 99 Rasul Douglas CB/S
4 114 Samaje Perine RB
5 149 Damontae Kazee CB
5 151 Desmond King Safety
7 237 Isaiah Ford WR

AzorAhai · May 3, 2017

Agree with you on Cook, Williams, Basham, Moreau, Henderson, Rivers, King and Ford.

I'd add
32. Ryan Ramzyck
38. Forest Lamp
56. Obi
71. Dan Feeney
75. Duke Riley
84. Chris Godwin
112. Eddie Jackson
116. Carl Lawson
145 Jake Butt
148. Balir Brown
152. Corn Elder
247. Malachi Dupre

CFA
KD Cannon
Tyler Orlosky
Caroll Phillips
Joe Mathis

Tristan · May 3, 2017

Hooker, Colts
Foster, obviously
Williams, Balt.
Dede Westbrook Jax
Cook, Minn
Allen, WA

Sarge · May 4, 2017

I have a feeling Williams will be a dud.

RJ_MacReady · May 4, 2017

Desmond King and Xavier Woods. Those kids should have been gone the late third at latest and I believe it will be revealed late this season. You can't teach what they have.

RoboQB · May 4, 2017

xwalker said:
Which non-Cowboys picks do you think were bargains?

Some that I think were bargains:
2 41 Dalvin Cook RB
3 78 Tim Williams DE
3 80 Tarell Basham DE
3 81 Fabian Moreau CB
3 82 Carlos Henderson WR
3 83 Derek Rivers DE
3 90 Shaquill Griffin CB
3 99 Rasul Douglas CB/S
4 114 Samaje Perine RB
5 149 Damontae Kazee CB
5 151 Desmond King Safety
7 237 Isaiah Ford WR

Nice list.

I think Cook is an obvious choice. Also, the Perine, Kazee and King picks look to be bargains.

RoboQB · May 4, 2017

RingOfHonor88 said:
Agree with you on Cook, Williams, Basham, Moreau, Henderson, Rivers, King and Ford.

I'd add
32. Ryan Ramzyck
38. Forest Lamp
56. Obi
71. Dan Feeney
75. Duke Riley
84. Chris Godwin
112. Eddie Jackson
116. Carl Lawson
145 Jake Butt
148. Balir Brown
152. Corn Elder
247. Malachi Dupre

CFA
KD Cannon
Tyler Orlosky
Caroll Phillips
Joe Mathis

From this list, I say Jackson, Butt and Dupre... and maybe Cannon.

RoboQB · May 4, 2017

Sarge said:
I have a feeling Williams will be a dud.

The one good thing he has going for him is that it was Baltimore who selected him.
The have an inside track to 'Bama players. Ozzie Newsome is a great GM who learned
from the best. He is in the best scenario to succeed but it's ultimately up to him.
No team hits on every player, as you know.

xwalker · May 4, 2017

RingOfHonor88 said:
Agree with you on Cook, Williams, Basham, Moreau, Henderson, Rivers, King and Ford.

I'd add
32. Ryan Ramzyck
38. Forest Lamp
56. Obi
71. Dan Feeney
75. Duke Riley
84. Chris Godwin
112. Eddie Jackson
116. Carl Lawson
145 Jake Butt
148. Balir Brown
152. Corn Elder
247. Malachi Dupre

CFA
KD Cannon
Tyler Orlosky
Caroll Phillips
Joe Mathis

Good list.

I should have had Lawson and Blair Brown. I guess Lawson's fall is health related.

Carol Phillips is an interesting udfa.

tyke1doe · May 4, 2017

It's going to be interesting to look back on this draft four years from now. Based on the talent alone (if that talent develops as many assume it will), you could have Pro Bowls as deep as the seventh round.

I was really hoping we'd pick Eddie Jackson. I'm projecting him to be an Ed Reed clone.
What a gift Minnesota received in Cook. They likely would have taken him in the first round. They may not miss a beat in their running game.

Teague31 · May 4, 2017

Chad Kelly. Not long ago he was talked about as a first round guy.

RS12 · May 4, 2017

They spent a lot of time with Basham. Thought there was a good chance he ends up here.

RS12 · May 4, 2017

I read Phillips scared teams off with I believe a neck issue.

Sydla · May 4, 2017

Teague31 said:
Chad Kelly. Not long ago he was talked about as a first round guy.

He's a knucklehead. Like a Johnny Manziel level knucklehead.

Teague31 · May 4, 2017

Sydla said:
He's a knucklehead. Like a Johnny Manziel level knucklehead.

Manziel went in the first
Kelly was the last pick of the draft.

AzorAhai · May 4, 2017

Sydla said:
He's a knucklehead. Like a Johnny Manziel level knucklehead.

He's called machine gun Kelly for a reason. Ten cents head would be generous.

AzorAhai · May 4, 2017

tyke1doe said:
It's going to be interesting to look back on this draft four years from now. Based on the talent alone (if that talent develops as many assume it will), you could have Pro Bowls as deep as the seventh round.

I was really hoping we'd pick Eddie Jackson. I'm projecting him to be an Ed Reed clone.
What a gift Minnesota received in Cook. They likely would have taken him in the first round. They may not miss a beat in their running game.

I can't really remember a draft like this one. It was sooooo deep at a few positions that teams just let really good players fall into the 5th and even 6th rounds. Guys who very well could have been 2-3 rounds higher if those positions weren't so deep or if they were in another draft. I think there's a good chance we look back in five years and see a ton of pro bowl caliber players were taken on the 3rd day.

Sydla · May 4, 2017

Teague31 said:
Manziel went in the first
Kelly was the last pick of the draft.

And in the end, neither will end up playing much in the NFL. So I can't call a guy who has a strong possibility of being a total bomb out in the NFL, "a bargain in the draft".

UncleBlazer · May 4, 2017

xwalker said:
Which non-Cowboys picks do you think were bargains?

Some that I think were bargains:
2 41 Dalvin Cook RB
3 78 Tim Williams DE
3 80 Tarell Basham DE
3 81 Fabian Moreau CB
3 82 Carlos Henderson WR
3 83 Derek Rivers DE
3 90 Shaquill Griffin CB
3 99 Rasul Douglas CB/S
4 114 Samaje Perine RB
5 149 Damontae Kazee CB
5 151 Desmond King Safety
7 237 Isaiah Ford WR

Alvin Kamara

FuzzyLumpkins · May 4, 2017

Sydla said:
He's a knucklehead. Like a Johnny Manziel level knucklehead.

Manziel has a substance abuse problem. Kelly threatened to shoot up a nightclub he felt that had slighted him.

Kelly might well be a sociopath and a dumb one at that. Telling the press that was just stupid.

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