Looks like a soft Taco with no flavor

Oh_Canada · Aug 13, 2017

erod said:
Somebody has to counter the non-thinking homers that lack any and all objectivity.

Yes far better to be a over reactionary cynic that lack any sense of patience or understanding of context.

Fla Cowpoke · Aug 13, 2017

Hawkeye19 said:
Marinelli praised him when they drafted him. Then publicly called him out after 16 snaps last week. Taco responded with 3 tackles and a sack the following week.

Tells me three things:

1. Rod believes in the ability and potential of the player since he advocated drafting him.

2. The fact Rod publicly dogged him shows even more that Rod does not think he has played to his potential yet-- otherwise why call him out?

3. Taco's response shows that he is teachable and received Rod's message loud and clear.

What exactly is the problem again? Unless you expected him to come in right away as a fully developed Pro Bowler-- you should be pleased with what you are seeing from Taco and Rod right now.

Marinelli is hardest on the guys he knows have the tools to be great.

Hawkeye19 · Aug 13, 2017

Fla Cowpoke said:
Marinelli is hardest on the guys he knows have the tools to be great.

Yup... good at motivating and getting the best out of his guys

Proximo · Aug 13, 2017

RingOfHonor88 said:
Temper the enthusiasm after playing better in this game, but **** all over the kid for playing bad in the first game. Makes complete sense.

Nailed it.

And now that this thread has been bumped, OP came back in with literally the most predictable responses.

Crapping all over the kid after the 1st preseason game and then giving him zero credit after an improved performance the following week isn't being a "realist". It's being an idiot.

Jake0 · Aug 13, 2017

The overreaction was clearly just grasping at straws during a boring offseason. Taco's measurables from the combine are good, his 10 yard split in his 40 was pretty much elite. He won plenty of 1 on 1s in camp against people like L'ael. His college film had him read and react rather than just go all out rushing the qb. No reason at all to think he had no burst yet all the over-reactors were saying was "OMG HE IS SLOW LOOK AT HIS 40 TIME, NO BURST AT ALL."

At least formulate a solid opinion if trying to sling mud at someone. In this social media age, wide spread ignorance does have an effect on players.

CATCH17 · Aug 13, 2017

Verdict said:
I haven't seen last nights game yet, so my comments are based on his limited body of work and measurables before last night's game. His 40 time is pretty pedestrian. It's not the end all be all, but it is an indication of speed and burst.

If you know a guy can't help you this year, his measurables better be closer to Ware than Hardy. I hope he develops faster than we have seen to justify the pick at 28.

His measurables are pretty close to Joey Bosas and if I could pick 1 player in the league right now to add to the Cowboys it would be Bosa.

Solution · Aug 13, 2017

CATCH17 said:
His measurables are pretty close to Joey Bosas and if I could pick 1 player in the league right now to add to the Cowboys it would be Bosa.

I still feel vindicated being one of the only ones who wanted to draft him last year. Feels like this entire board hated the guy. Then again, I probably knew he would be good because this board hated him.

Section446 · Aug 13, 2017

Solution said:
I still feel vindicated being one of the only ones who wanted to draft him last year. Feels like this entire board hated the guy. Then again, I probably knew he would be good because this board hated him.

Couldn't have gone wrong with either Zeke or Bosa. I think that it's easy to say you'd rather have Bosa now that we are going to have to worry about Zeke every off-season.

Solution · Aug 13, 2017

Section444 said:
Couldn't have gone wrong with either Zeke or Bosa. I think that it's easy to say you'd rather have Bosa now that we are going to have to worry about Zeke every off-season.

Not to derail the thread, but Bosa will have the longer career at a more premium position just going off the odds. I'm hoping Zeke turns out like AP and lasts a decade (he's honestly built for it, dude is thick as hell). Even with how great Zeke is, I would rather have Bosa over Taco, and one of the many first round RB's this year over Zeke.

Edit: Silly for me to even consider since Bosa never made it to our pick and unless or FO has the greatest poker face ever, weren't considering going after him.

waldoputty · Aug 13, 2017

CATCH17 said:
His measurables are pretty close to Joey Bosas and if I could pick 1 player in the league right now to add to the Cowboys it would be Bosa.

we did not know much after game 1 and we still do not know much now.
nice to see some good results, but it was against non-starters.
for every joe bosa with those measureable, there is a ryan russell.

let continue to hope he progresses.
if he is a bosa, then it would be obviously huge.

Section446 · Aug 13, 2017

Solution said:
Not to derail the thread, but Bosa will have the longer career at a more premium position just going off the odds. I'm hoping Zeke turns out like AP and lasts a decade (he's honestly built for it, dude is thick as hell). Even with how great Zeke is, I would rather have Bosa over Taco, and one of the many first round RB's this year over Zeke.

Edit: Silly for me to even consider since Bosa never made it to our pick and unless or FO has the greatest poker face ever, weren't considering going after him.

It's still a valid argument, nobody expected the Chargers to grab him where they did. Again, I don't think we could have gone wrong with either one.

Section446 · Aug 13, 2017

waldoputty said:
we did not know much after game 1 and we still do not know much now.
nice to see some good results, but it was against non-starters.
for every joe bosa with those measureable, there is a ryan russell.

let continue to hope he progresses.
if he is a bosa, then it would be obviously huge.

Bosa was way more polished coming out than Taco was/is. They're basically the exact opposite, Bosa might be a little too physical at the point-of-contact, and Taco isn't physical enough.

waldoputty · Aug 13, 2017

Section444 said:
Bosa was way more polished coming out than Taco was/is. They're basically the exact opposite, Bosa might be a little too physical at the point-of-contact, and Taco isn't physical enough.

i would like to see how taco in the upcoming games:
1. play against some 1st teamers
2. do outside moves instead just inside moves as he obviously cannot just survive on inside moves.

Solution · Aug 13, 2017

Section444 said:
Again, I don't think we could have gone wrong with either one.

Lol, like arguing between JJ Watt and Tyron Smith.

erod · Aug 13, 2017

Oh_Canada said:
Yes far better to be a over reactionary cynic that lack any sense of patience or understanding of context.

Guess I just want players who have had great games in their life instead of guys who only started 13 games in college because they weren't good enough.

He's going to have to do more than beat undrafted traffic cones from small colleges to earn my adoration.

Tapper was a fourth rounder who looks far better than this first rounder.

I hope time proves me wrong, but I've seen far too many first-round pass rush busts in Dallas.

big dog cowboy · Aug 13, 2017

Proximo said:
Crapping all over the kid after the 1st preseason game and then giving him zero credit after an improved performance the following week isn't being a "realist".

It isn't. But we all know exactly what it is.

Fla Cowpoke · Aug 13, 2017

erod said:
Guess I just want players who have had great games in their life instead of guys who only started 13 games in college because they weren't good enough.

He's going to have to do more than beat undrafted traffic cones from small colleges to earn my adoration.

Tapper was a fourth rounder who looks far better than this first rounder.

I hope time proves me wrong, but I've seen far too many first-round pass rush busts in Dallas.

So, to your trained expert eye, Tapper has looked better than Charlton in the two preseason games?

erod · Aug 13, 2017

Fla Cowpoke said:
So, to your trained expert eye, Tapper has looked better than Charlton in the two preseason games?

Absolutely the first game. Not even close.
Last night was fine for both.

gmoney112 · Aug 13, 2017

Taco played great against their starters. Some hiccups but he looked good.

He was all over the place in the 1st quarter. If you didn't see it, go back and watch him.

Fla Cowpoke · Aug 13, 2017

erod said:
Absolutely the first game. Not even close.
Last night was fine for both.

If you thought they looked the same last night you either didn't really watch the game or you just are playing contrarian.

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