News: PFT: A delayed suspension for Ezekiel Elliott is hardly out of the question

Texas_Pete

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Correct.

When they talk about going to federal court, it will be about whether or not the process to suspend Zeke was within the confines of the CBA.

There will be no she did this, or he did that, or she texted this. They will not be re-litigating that 160 page document in federal court. That will happen at the appeal next week.

The only question in federal court will be whether Goodell overstepped his authority in suspending Zeke. I don't believe he did. You can question the ruling itself. But I don't think you can question the fact that the process was within the CBA.

The only issue that may come up is the fairness issue. That is, Brown getting one game while Zeke got 6.

But at the end of the day, Zeke will get suspended. It's just of question of how many games.

I'd agree with you if they interviewed every witness that was listed in that 160 page document. They have sworn affidavits of critical witnesses that were overlooked in their ruling. The only witness they used to make their ruling was the alleged victim who lied. The NFL even admitted that they knew she mislead the police but the "generally believed her" anyway.

Now if they interviewed every witness listed and their testimonies were lock stepped with her recollection of events, then suspend him. But this is not the case. There are witnesses that saw her basically dressed in a bikini top without any bruising during the time she said he did to her. Their verdict based on her study just doesn't add up.
 

Texas_Pete

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Not interested in a delay that could disrupt the season. Take it early if you have to.
That's from your perspective as a Cowboys Fan. From his perspective if a shaky investigation from a rabid Giants fan lead to him being suspended I would fight it too, Tom Brady style.
 

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That's from your perspective as a Cowboys Fan. From his perspective if a shaky investigation from a rabid Giants fan lead to him being suspended I would fight it too, Tom Brady style.
Always fight............. it gives you way more options, leverage and a chance to win

The NFL was willing to cut a deal with Brady last year but he didn't want any games at all because of the cheating ..... the NFL may cut 3 games just to keep it out of Fed Court
 

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Point well taken. I was just being honest when I expressed that I normally give the alleged victim the benefit of the doubt because I don't believe that most women will lie about such a traumatic thing. Then you have women like the one in this case who make it hard on everybody.
The stats agree with you but I still have to see the info before I make a call. I mean this lady barely looks like she been touched and folks like the NFL did a great job. This is really the craziness that you can get over on the public. It shows me that most folks haven't been in any real physical conflicts if this looks like the look of someone that's been beat every other day for about a week straight by a powerful NFL player that outweighs her by about 100 or more pounds. I'm not saying it couldn't happen like that but that's just not what comes to mind when you think of beatings. Again no beef and thanks for the response
 

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Bottom line that I come to is this:

The media rode the Ray Rice and Greg Hardy trains until the wheels fell off - female personalities in the news, male personalities in the news, all talking heads male and female - didn't matter. They beat that horse to a fine mist, and some would say rightfully so.

Eerily silent from all the media in this one. Nobody's carrying the domestic violence banner against Zeke Elliott this time. I think people know this one is a dog of a case.
It is some media people talking real silly about this case but not as many. The female moderator on first take about a week ago was mad as ever like she had smoking gun proof Zeke did something. I'm like I need to know what info she had since she was so hype that Zeke did it otherwise she was making a fool of herself imo.
 

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It is some media people talking real silly about this case but not as many. The female moderator on first take about a week ago was mad as ever like she had smoking gun proof Zeke did something. I'm like I need to know what info she had since she was so hype that Zeke did it otherwise she was making a fool of herself imo.

It's First Take -- that show is the primary example of a ratings grab...I don't know why anybody takes it seriously.
 

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Will they look at existing testimony? Because if Goodell and his goons had done that, Zeke would not be suspended for 6 games.

I'm going off the cuff and say that Goddell didn't look at the evidence and couldn't care less about the testimony. As one writer stated, he already agrees to punish the so called offender and work to build a PR case around it.

It a shame that someone who is in charge of suspending players could care less whether that person is guilty or not. Thats Goddell for you. It shows how much the NFL is poorly managed by men who have no idea how to manage.
 

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the nfl spent over a year investigating this on zeke there is now way they reduce the time of the suspension the Henderson guy will rubber stamp it and send it on I think in the end he will serve his six games and he will be really missed by the team
 

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the nfl spent over a year investigating this on zeke there is now way they reduce the time of the suspension the Henderson guy will rubber stamp it and send it on I think in the end he will serve his six games and he will be really missed by the team
Henderson reduced GHardy's 10 games to 4 games under very similar circumstances..... same guy
 

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Injunction is what will happen. And when he goes to court I hope the following happens:

  1. Supoena Goodell and Lisa Friel so they have to testify under oath why this "investigation" took so long, why their only "witness" was the accuser, and why they ignored evidence of credible witnesses.
  2. Subpoena Tiffany Thompson too. Ask her about the text messages she sent, why she said she would ruin Zeke's career, etc.
  3. Subpoena the bouncer at the bar that saw Tiffany fighting another woman then make her testify too.
  4. Subpoena all witnesses that submitted affidavits saying that Zeke never touched her.
  5. Lastly, subpoena the guy who was with Zeke and Tiffany several days in a row before the alleged incident took place.

Sure it may get ugly but Zeke needs to fight this and clear his name.
I agree with you @Texas_Pete, we both know that Tiffany Thompson was out to ruin Zeke's career all because he didn't want to give her anymore attention. There is also incriminating text messages of her and her friend premeditatively planned on blackmailing Zeke etc. I too want Zeke to fight this to the end to clear his name and show everyone who Thompson really is a gold digging (fill in the blank) because if he were to agree to a bogus reduced suspension of let's say 3 games from the NFL's lap dog Harold Henderson then Zeke would actually admit that he's guilty of something he didn't do and that will send the wrong message so fight it Zeke.
 

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If this case was actually about dv then jamies Winston would be suspended too. He was also accused of something much worse.
 
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