Elliott showed his immaturity yesterday

BrassCowboy

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not sure how him looking fat shows immaturity. He is husky but the way he has big pads and a beard makes his face look fatter than it is.

I assume you mean he quit on the INT, he was 5-10 yards away so likely would not have caught him. That being said, I do contrast that with Dak who busted his *** to try and tackle Talib on a meaningless INT at the end of the game. I was very impressed with Dak's effort on that play.
For one, he was just a few yards away, he should of went after him. Call it for what it is, Zeke quit on THAT play.
Two, Zeke does look a litter heavier. Saw the same thing before hearing many others mentioning it. Won't say he isn't who he was last year yet, but so far he hasn't convinced me.
This is all coming from a big fan of Zeke's
 

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I would rather see Zeke looking grumpy on the bench than laughing and carrying on during a game like this....

Zeke will be fine
Most people are wishy washy. One game its people don't look upset then the next time the overall narrative becomes why they having fun when we losing blah blah blah.
 

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With all this legal crap going on, this was a horrible look for Mr. Feed-me.

This isn't going to end well with him, I'm afraid.

It's sure not indicative of a player who "gets it".

Repeatedly use your "Feed Me" first down gesture when things are going well, but run and hide when they aren't.

Not a good look.
 

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It's sure not indicative of a player who "gets it".

Repeatedly use your "Feed Me" first down gesture when things are going well, but run and hide when they aren't.

Not a good look.
Old boy has made his feelings as transparent as a window.
I respect his willingness to show his hide in this day and age of peeps being able to sue you for anything that gets said, no matter how many years ago in whatever forum.
That's why I...
****.
I mean shoot.
 

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Exactly - and the thing is Dak would be the first to take responsibility for it because he's a stand-up guy and the quarterback. No reason to cover for anybody, it was a bad game and there's plenty of blame to go around.

On to Arizona.
Exactly. Dak will take full accountability. He played bad. Like you said, on to Arizona.
 

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It's sure not indicative of a player who "gets it".

Repeatedly use your "Feed Me" first down gesture when things are going well, but run and hide when they aren't.

Not a good look.
Why would he do the feed me when we getting blown out? Where are all these people that are happy when losing and winning? I don't seem to see these people. Usually people are more excited when having success and not when not having success. This isn't new
 

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Why would he do the feed me when we getting blown out? Where are all these people that are happy when losing and winning? I don't seem to see these people. Usually people are more excited when having success and not when not having success. This isn't new

Front runner.

Front and center when things are rolling.

Runs, hides and gives up when they're not.

"Adversity does not build character, it reveals it"
 

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Front runner.

Front and center when things are rolling.

Runs, hides and gives up when they're not.

"Adversity does not build character, it reveals it"
Most people do this so you aren't saying much. If it makes you feel better to say it though I understand even though I disagree. Adversity reveals nothing. Don't get suckered by some sounds good quote.
 

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why cant people just chalk this up to being a really bad game? if this happened anywhere other than denver or seattle id be concerned. but come on.

brady stinks there
rodgers was AWFUL there 2 years ago
it took elway being out for the 92 team to win and even that took a final drive to take the lead. come on
 

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This is a really interesting take that I did not consider.

I dunno if it holds any weight but I do not think it's out of the realm of possibility.

I think alot of fans are really missing the main issue with Zeke. Partying was big part of his life. Its what brought him joy. As person who used to like it also I am so glad I was able to do it without scrutiny. But Zeke is the talk of country and NFL is run by division rival team and they can change things quickly and did. I don't know where Zeke goes from here. I don't see burning passion to just play football with him. What I see is guy who loves physicality of football, dominate then celebrate later. He is in lock-down and shows it. The guy needs a beer. Maybe arrange small (invite only) parties.
 

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Most people do this so you aren't saying much.

"Most people" aren't great. "Most people" are average. Ordinary. If this is who Zeke is then the team made a mistake with him.

If it makes you feel better to say it though I understand even though I disagree.

Why would it "make me feel better" to have to call one of the team's star players a front runner and a quitter? That gives me no pride or satisfaction. But I won't blind myself to it either. I'll leave that for others.

Adversity reveals nothing. Don't get suckered by some sounds good quote.

It's a "good quote" because it's true. And sometimes the truth hurts.
 

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why cant people just chalk this up to being a really bad game? if this happened anywhere other than denver or seattle id be concerned. but come on.

brady stinks there
rodgers was AWFUL there 2 years ago
it took elway being out for the 92 team to win and even that took a final drive to take the lead. come on

For me, it's because it wasn't just one area that failed, it was all of them. It would be one thing if just one component looked bad, but that wasn't the case at all.

As good as everything looked in week one, it looked that bad in week 2. Shockingly bad.

And now, fans' confidence has been shaken. And now we're left to wonder which are the real Cowboys? The dominating team from week 1? Or the dominated team from week 2?
 

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"Most people" aren't great. "Most people" are average. Ordinary. If this is who Zeke is then the team made a mistake with him.



Why would it "make me feel better" to have to call one of the team's star players a front runner and a quitter? That gives me no pride or satisfaction. But I won't blind myself to it either. I'll leave that for others.



It's a "good quote" because it's true. And sometimes the truth hurts.
Zeke is avg when it comes to the exact stuff we are talking about. You know good and well he isn't svg as a football player and if you think he is you just are jealous or wanted someone different in the draft.

I'm not you so I don't know why it would make you feel better. I can guess and I'd say like most people that are on these sites you're a bit jealous and when you can speak negatively about those doing better it makes you feel better. That's what I get but I don't know you for sure so that's just generalizing based on this usually goes ime.

Its not true but if it works for you have fun with it. The truth only hurts when its coming from someone you care about. Me saying something about you or vice versa isn't going tom hurt either one of us. If It comes from someone who really knows us it would be more likely to hurt.
 

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Zeke is avg when it comes to the exact stuff we are talking about. You know good and well he isn't svg as a football player and if you think he is you just are jealous or wanted someone different in the draft.

I never said he was an average "football player" so there's no need to waste your time or mine claiming such.

I'm not you so I don't know why it would make you feel better. I can guess and I'd say like most people that are on these sites you're a bit jealous and when you can speak negatively about those doing better it makes you feel better. That's what I get but I don't know you for sure so that's just generalizing based on this usually goes ime.

If you think he's "doing better", you're not paying attention. But you go ahead and rush to his defense in all things.

Its not true but if it works for you have fun with it. The truth only hurts when its coming from someone you care about. Me saying something about you or vice versa isn't going tom hurt either one of us. If It comes from someone who really knows us it would be more likely to hurt.

His own coach said he'll have a talk with him about his quitting on plays. Thats the immaturity that's being discussed here. And you need to deal with it. That is true.
 

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The Kid piled up red flags in college and now he's piling up red flags in the NFL so far. Makes me nervous.
 

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The Kid piled up red flags in college and now he's piling up red flags in the NFL so far. Makes me nervous.

Same here.

The talent isn't questionable. The decision-making and maturity is.

At this point, this team is counting on him a great deal for success.

And right now, I wonder how long that will continue into the future.
 

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I’ve been meaning to mention that. That’s heart and pride. Dak really gave effort to stop that irrelevant insult to injury. I love it
easier to show more heart and pride when it's your pick 6 you're trying to stop.
 

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I never said he was an average "football player" so there's no need to waste your time or mine claiming such.



If you think he's "doing better", you're not paying attention. But you go ahead and rush to his defense in all things.



His own coach said he'll have a talk with him about his quitting on plays. Thats the immaturity that's being discussed here. And you need to deal with it. That is true.
Im not wasting your time or mine. You're the one who said the team made a mistake if he was avg not me so don't get why you're acting like I made something up for.

I know he's doing better and you do too. Just because I disagree with a lot of you people don't mean I run to his or anybody defense all the time. I think most of y'all are bitter behind people and disagree with the stuff you say. If crapping on people and me not co signing it is rushing to his defense guess I'm OJ, Jim Brown, Earl Campbell, Emmitt Smith, Barry Sanders rolled into one then.

People say things all the time to get the easily manipulated masses off their back. I see no immaturity because he doesn't do things the way you think they should be done. I see immaturity on your part being as though you need people to subscribe to your way of thinking or else. That is true
 

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Lol, yesterday? He showed his immaturity in college, in March, in texts, in night clubs and finally on the field.

Yep...said he was a mistake when we drafted him and I ate some crow last season. But obviously he didn't handle success worth a damn. Maybe he'll grow up....MAYBE.
 
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