Packers are asking that fans in the stands join arms in unity

that fans in the stands join arms in unity. Ain't that funny. How bout everyone hold their hand over their heart while the Anthem is played. That would be unity.

richzre said:

that fans in the stands join arms in unity. Ain't that funny. How bout everyone hold their hand over their heart while the Anthem is played. That would be unity.

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Do you thank god every day for the creation of the internet? If not, you should.

stilltheguru88 said:

Do you thank god every day for the creation of the internet? If not, you should.

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Do you thank god everyday? You should.

richzre said:

that fans in the stands join arms in unity. Ain't that funny. How bout everyone hold their hand over their heart while the Anthem is played. That would be unity.

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really has become a mockery. A legit cause and message lost because the protest was purposely aimed to insult - not a great way to garner goodwill

JackOfNoTrades said:

really has become a mockery. A legit cause and message lost because the protest was purposely aimed to insult - not a great way to garner goodwill

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Legit cause/message? Don't use the Athem and take a knee to deliver it. Do it on your own time, off the field and out of football. NFL is not for personal protests. Play the game. Entertain us. Keep your views out of it.

JackOfNoTrades said:

really has become a mockery. A legit cause and message lost because the protest was purposely aimed to insult - not a great way to garner goodwill

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Not if you’re black.

richzre said:

Legit cause/message? Don't use the Athem and take a knee to deliver it. Do it on your own time, off the field and out of football. NFL is not for personal protests. Play the game. Entertain us. Keep your views out of it.

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re-read what I wrote, I think we pretty much agree.

Rockport said:

Not if you’re black.

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let's hope leaders in black communities and police dept's, etc were able to hear through the noise

JackOfNoTrades said:

re-read what I wrote, I think we pretty much agree.

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You threw me off. It sounded like you thought Kaepernick's comments were a legit cause and message.

richzre said:

You threw me off. It sounded like you thought Kaepernick's comments were a legit cause and message.

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Comments like this don't get criticized by people though. Lol

Way to go Packer fans. They asked you to lock arms and nobody did. It was funny because you know the camera's were trying to find large sections of fan locked in arms. They found like 5 people.

richzre said:

Way to go Packer fans. They asked you to lock arms and nobody did. It was funny because you know the camera's were trying to find large sections of fan locked in arms. They found like 5 people.

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.....isn't that the root of the problem.....nobody willing to listen, nobody willing to show a sign of interest, nobody willing to have empathy.....nobody willing to understand a protest has never been about a convenience, nobody to show a glimmer of unity, and most importantly nobody willing to say Make America Better as opposed to Make American Great Again?

Rodgers did make a good point in how yelling during the Anthem disrespectful. And it seems like fans were yelling even while the players were standing with their arms linked together. So yelling/cursing during the Anthem is more disrespectful than the kneeling/having arms linked. And the ones who say that the players are against the players protesting during the Anthem, are protesting the protesting during the Anthem by yelling.

I wonder if those who have a problem with the players not protesting on their own time, have the same problem with the yelling fans not protesting on their own time as well. And if people believe that it okay to yell during the Anthem to express their anger over how they feel like the flag/military is being respected. But, don't want the players to express how they feel like there is racial injustice in this country it proves why the players are protesting. People who want others to be silent or to dictate when others protest, but have no problems expressing their emotions when their feelings are impacted.

Cmac said:

.....isn't that the root of the problem.....nobody willing to listen, nobody willing to show a sign of interest, nobody willing to have empathy.....nobody willing to understand a protest has never been about a convenience, nobody to show a glimmer of unity, and most importantly nobody willing to say Make America Better as opposed to Make American Great Again?

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The root of the problem is that the anthem protesters protested the wrong thing and made their protest built on a lie.

This protest started to gain momentum after Mike Brown, a man who strong armed a store owner and attacked a cop, was justly killed by a cop trying to protect himself and the community.

Then it was further perpetuated by the lying of the anthem protesters who have the acid-trip logic of stating that they are not actually protesting the anthem and the flag. As well as people like Mike Tomlin who pressured players into either protesting the anthem or not properly addressing the anthem.

We used to have unity and players that protested or spoke their mind about issues that bothered them. We used to stand for the anthem to show that even though we disagree at times, even though there are a lot of things that are wrong with this country that need to be resolved, that we are unified by what the country stands for which is all men are created equal and that as a country we've always worked to right the ship towards inequality. And afterwards if a player had an issue to raise, we could hear them thru the press or social media and the people would hear them and support their cause.

But the players and the NFL want it all one way. And to complain towards anybody who is protesting the NFL in response to their protests against the anthem and the flag is wildly hypocritical.




YR

richzre said:

Legit cause/message? Don't use the Athem and take a knee to deliver it. Do it on your own time, off the field and out of football. NFL is not for personal protests. Play the game. Entertain us. Keep your views out of it.

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They are playing the game.

They kneel before the game, a time that most people here never really gave two poops about until someone started protesting during it. Suddenly, a lot of you suddenly started to care what was going on during the anthem. I might buy the BS people are trying to selling if a player did some sort of protest during a game that might ruin the entertainment value of the game. But they aren't. They are going it before a game during something that people are being disingenuous when they claim now it's important to them when in fact before Kaepernick, most didn't even care or pay attention to the anthem before games.

The faux outrage over this is mind numbing.

In reality, for many (not all), this is simply a political thing. It's not about respect for the flag or following the traditions of the flag. If people were concerned about respecting the flag, then some of you wouldn't be driving around with NASCAR stickers on your cars that have the American flag imposed on the sticker? Why, because if you are truly about respecting the flag, you know that violates a guideline of how to properly use a flag. Some of you wouldn't be walking around with stars and stripes on your t-shirts because that's also a violation. I literally saw a guy in a store get in an argument over the protests saying it was disrespectful to the flag and he was wearing a shirt with a picture of gun on it, draped in an American flag. He's screaming about respecting the flag, he's walking around disrespecting the flag himself.

If people were so concerned about respecting the military, then they wouldn't be rallying behind the words of the President who, if one actually has paid attention, has been disrespecting the military and its leadership for years. Nah, let's not talk about that now.

For many, this is simply a Democrat versus GOP thing, a liberal versus a conservative thing. It's not about respect for the flag or the anthem, it's about the fact that African American football players are viewed as liberal, fighting for what is a viewed as a liberal cause and many conservatives just can't handle that.

Cmac said:

.....isn't that the root of the problem.....nobody willing to listen, nobody willing to show a sign of interest, nobody willing to have empathy.....nobody willing to understand a protest has never been about a convenience, nobody to show a glimmer of unity, and most importantly nobody willing to say Make America Better as opposed to Make American Great Again?

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You don't get people to listen by doing things that divide people. People are there to see a game not players disrespecting what they hold dear. They have days off during the week where they can stage a protest and standup and talk about the issue but doing something that is going to make people angry is just really a stupid stunt is not the way to go about it.

Sydla said:

They are playing the game.

They kneel before the game, during a part of the game that most people here never really gave to poops about until someone started protesting during it. Suddenly, a lot of you suddenly started to care what was going on during the anthem. I might buy the BS people are trying to selling if a player did some sort of protest during a game that might ruin the entertainment value of the game. But they aren't. They are going it before a game during something that people are being disingenuous when they claim now it's important to them when in fact before Kaepernick, most didn't even care or pay attention to the anthem before games.

The faux outrage over this is mind numbing.

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Players showing disrespect means something to many fans, you may not agree and that is fine but evidently most people do not want it. The more players do it the more fans will turn on them. That is reality

Yakuza Rich said:

The root of the problem is that the anthem protesters protested the wrong thing and made their protest built on a lie.

This protest started to gain momentum after Mike Brown, a man who strong armed a store owner and attacked a cop, was justly killed by a cop trying to protect himself and the community.

Then it was further perpetuated by the lying of the anthem protesters who have the acid-trip logic of stating that they are not actually protesting the anthem and the flag. As well as people like Mike Tomlin who pressured players into either protesting the anthem or not properly addressing the anthem.

We used to have unity and players that protested or spoke their mind about issues that bothered them. We used to stand for the anthem to show that even though we disagree at times, even though there are a lot of things that are wrong with this country that need to be resolved, that we are unified by what the country stands for which is all men are created equal and that as a country we've always worked to right the ship towards inequality. And afterwards if a player had an issue to raise, we could hear them thru the press or social media and the people would hear them and support their cause.

But the players and the NFL want it all one way. And to complain towards anybody who is protesting the NFL in response to their protests against the anthem and the flag is wildly hypocritical.




YR

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LOL at calling the anthem protestors the liars here.

Doomsday101 said:

Players showing disrespect means something to many fans, you may not agree and that is fine but evidently most people do not want it. The more players do it the more fans will turn on them. That is reality

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And those people are silly IMO.

They are silly because this garners more outrage for MANY of them than the stuff the nitwit in the WH pulls. So some players not standing for the anthem is disrespectful but it's OK if the President rants about McCain being a bad soldier for being a POW, or insulting a family whose son died a hero simply because they were Muslim and didn't like him, or the fact that leading up to his nomination, he trashed the military leadership.

Nah, that's not going to get your dander up. But some guys kneeling for the anthem, yeah, that's something we need to really get outraged over.

If this many people showed this type of outrage over what our politicians do, we might be better off as a country. But instead, we don't. Instead we get outraged over silly, petty BS that really has not one effect on our every day lives.

It's beyond idiotic.

Sydla said:

LOL at calling the anthem protestors the liars here.

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Per usual, you can't comprehend anything you read that doesn't suit your agenda.

I said that the protest was built on a lie.

Unless you actually believe that Mike Brown was unjustly killed the only thing to laugh about is your reading comprehension skills.



YR