From the Iggs newspaper today. They think we are running Zeke into the ground and they love it

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Established1971 said:
At work, from Cowboy haters, in the 90's I heard this year after year after year about Emmit. Sure they one 1 SB but they are running Emmit into the ground. Sure they have won 2 but they are running Emmit into the ground, etc.
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Emmitt was the most incredible back at not taking big hits. He was a magician. He may have carried the ball a lot but he took very few really hard hits.
 
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Established1971 said:
At work, from Cowboy haters, in the 90's I heard this year after year after year about Emmit. Sure they one 1 SB but they are running Emmit into the ground. Sure they have won 2 but they are running Emmit into the ground, etc.
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True, but you are talking about an outlier here with Emmitt Smith. Not all RBs are as durable as he was. Most are not.

I still think it's far too early to be discussing a RB wearing down in his 2nd season. My only point in this thread was that this is one of the main reasons many believe it is unwise to draft that position that high.
 
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They likely aren't going 15-1 or 14-2, true.

But I doubt they are going to implode where they got from 5-1 to a 9-7 team unless a blimps their stadium and wipes out half their roster.
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For clarification purposes, let's consider 'imploding' being missing the playoffs here. Yeah, they're probably 80% likely to make it at 5-1, but it still could happen short of a blimp hitting anything. A key injury or two might do it. Look what happened when Johnson went down last season.

Other than that, though, as we said yesterday, the third down magic will slow down some. It has to. They still look like they've got a good team, no matter what. I'm just not giving them the benefit of the doubt because, Eagles.
 
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You should have a better grasp of Eagles history. Cratering after good starts is their thing.
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The Iggs have a favorable schedule and more games at home from here on out. They probably make the playoffs and win the division. Our best hope is that they lose their first playoff game by a wide margin. The fans in Philly will go wild and eat too many cheese steaks and pretzels and get more obese.
 
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For clarification purposes, let's consider 'imploding' being missing the playoffs here. Yeah, they're probably 80% likely to make it at 5-1, but it still could happen short of a blimp hitting anything. A key injury or two might do it. Look what happened when Johnson went down last season.

Other than that, though, as we said yesterday, the third down magic will slow down some. It has to. They still look like they've got a good team, no matter what. I'm just not giving them the benefit of the doubt because, Eagles.
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LOL! As you shouldn't :)

Yeah the Lane thing hurt them last year. It didn't help that Peters was playing nicked up a lot and not himself. He's old, but playing at a high level so far this year. But I think the biggest reason on offense was the dreadful targets Wentz had to work with (outside of Ertz). Jordan Matthews was the #1 and he didn't scare anyone. Agholor was a head case his first two seasons. He seems to be finding his happy place in the slot now.

But yes, injuries are always possible. If they remain relatively healthy, I think they have no problems making the playoffs.
 
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The kid just turned 22 and is built for this. Smh
 
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True. But this doesn't really prove anything now, does it?
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It's more of a fun stat than anything, but it is another example of unsustained early season success.

They've been fortunate with turnovers so far. They won or tied the turnover battle in all their wins. Wentz still throws a lot of interceptable balls, so I imagine that will start to even out.
 
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mcmvp said:
I am well aware of their history. I've been a tortured soul since the 70s. You can't turn of fandom, however.
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You can choose not to be deceitful about your loyalties and not proclaim their inevitability based on close wins against trash teams when they do that nearly every year. Or you can get your jollies trolling for a team that hasn't won a playoff game since George Bush was President.
 
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It's more of a fun stat than anything, but it is another example of unsustained early season success.

They've been fortunate with turnovers so far. They won or tied the turnover battle in all their wins. Wentz still throws a lot of interceptable balls, so I imagine that will start to even out.
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He's not afraid of letting his receivers make a play, but for the most part he does a good job with ball security. I'm ok with that.
 
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You can choose not to be deceitful about your loyalties and not proclaim their inevitability based on close wins against trash teams when they do that nearly every year. Or you can get your jollies trolling for a team that hasn't won a playoff game since George Bush was President.
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Yeah, I have no idea what you're talking about here.
 
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LOL! As you shouldn't :)

Yeah the Lane thing hurt them last year. It didn't help that Peters was playing nicked up a lot and not himself. He's old, but playing at a high level so far this year. But I think the biggest reason on offense was the dreadful targets Wentz had to work with (outside of Ertz). Jordan Matthews was the #1 and he didn't scare anyone. Agholor was a head case his first two seasons. He seems to be finding his happy place in the slot now.

But yes, injuries are always possible. If they remain relatively healthy, I think they have no problems making the playoffs.
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The drop rate data is seen last year suggested the WR drops problem was overblown. Wentz just didn't respond well to the defensive adjustments made to him once his pressure increased and his play dipped. Something definitely changed because the receivers were a constant and the offensive efficiency definitely dipped.

The difference this year is that that defensive front is even better. That's keeping them in every game, and the offense--with that outrageous 3rd down efficiency--is taking advantage.
 
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The drop rate data is seen last year suggested the WR drops problem was overblown. Wentz just didn't respond well to the defensive adjustments made to him once his pressure increased and his play dipped. Something definitely changed because the receivers were a constant and the offensive efficiency definitely dipped.

The difference this year is that that defensive front is even better. That's keeping them in every game, and the offense--with that outrageous 3rd down efficiency--is taking advantage.
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I have to disagree here. It wasn't just about the drops. Anyone that watches football knows their WR corps was among the very worst in the NFL last year. Hence the drastic change over at the position in the offseason.
 
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