Thoughts from last night's Hawks-Eagles game

Sydla

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Thoughts as it pertains to us.

- You see what dominant DLs can do. Seattle's DL was all over Wentz all night. Philly's DL was dominant as well but Wilson's ability to escape and free lance was able to overcome that a bit. But watching last night reminded me that we need to pour more into our front four. We have two legit high level pieces - Lawrence and Irving. Collins has potential and Crawford is a solid performer. I want more. So if a guy like Landry or Chubb is sitting there in the first round, I have no problems grabbing them. If a kid like Wilkins, the DT from Clemson is there, I have no problem taking him. People will say "well we need LBs". I get that. But frankly, a dominant DL can cover up a lot of other issues. Philly doesn't have "great" LBs but they are competent and look better because their DL helps them. So my priority would be finish the DL this offseason. If we came out of this draft with say a Landry or Wilkins or Chubb and then also added a guy like Poe or Logan in FA................ the effect on this defense would be immense IMO.

- Wentz was off last night but the thing I noticed and others noticed was how they seem to have a lot of open WRs. I don't think, other than TE, that the Eagles have such better skill players than we do. But yet, they seemingly have guys open all over the place. I can't recall a game where I came away thinking what a great called game we had, where guys were open, we made it easier on Dak, etc.

- Kris Richard, the DC for Seattle, might be a name to watch going forward if we need a new head coach at any point in the next few years. I think I'd prefer an offensive minded guy but people speak glowingly of Richard.
 

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Man. I agree on the open receivers part so much.

I haven’t seen a game where we had receivers open that consistently in a long time. It’s almost like every pass Dak throws us into a tight window and is contested.
 

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Agree largely on offense

Regarding draft and DL, our needs for next year on defense are starters at 1T DT, starting LB (preferably MIKE) and starting safety. Can get them via draft or FA or both
 

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MLBER - a Bobby Wagner type
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Agree largely on offense

Regarding draft and DL, our needs for next year on defense are starters at 1T DT, starting LB (preferably MIKE) and starting safety. Can get them via draft or FA or both

I'd love to add a guy like Zach Brown in FA at MLB. See if you can bring Hitchens back at a reasonable price. Those are your two MLBs and then Smith can back up Lee at WILL. Get me Logan or Poe at 1 Tech and then take the best DL available in the first - whether that be a DT or DE. I'd rather use FA to fix LB at this point than use a #1 pick. An average LB corp can look great if they have a dominant DL in front of them.

Though if somehow Smith the LB from UGA slips, then I'd be all over him. Stud.
 

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The only time we get someone that wide open is usually Twill running a drag across the field. Everyone knows our offense now. Button hooks, flys, out routes, and option routes.

I hear the local Jr High coach is pissed and wants his playbook back! Smh
 

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The only time we get someone that wide open is usually Twill running a drag across the field. Everyone knows our offense now. Button hooks, flys, out routes, and option routes.

I hear the local Jr High coach is pissed and wants his playbook back! Smh

I still think my favorite play of the year was the play they showed in the Skins game were Skins went straight man across the board, brought the last safety up to the LOS where there wasn't a soul between the hashes and our WRs all ran routes outside the hashes with no route in the middle of the vacated middle........ awesome sauce right there.
 

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The only time we get someone that wide open is usually Twill running a drag across the field. Everyone knows our offense now. Button hooks, flys, out routes, and option routes.

I hear the local Jr High coach is pissed and wants his playbook back! Smh
Or the one or two of the CBS fall down
 

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Good safeties and a good MIKE made it very difficult for Wentz. I'm not nutty about his ball placement. He's not Eli level inaccurate, who needed WR's with an enormous catch radius to corral his passes. But, Wentz doesn't make it easy for his WR's either. He's not exactly like catching passes from Drew Bledsoe either.

Wentz works best throwing passes between the numbers as he has a good feel for those passes. He'll look off the MIKE or a safety and then fire it to the open receiver that he looked off. I don't think he's a good deep passer, but he's like Romo in the sense that he'll create broken plays by escaping the pass rush and then a WR gets wide open. While the pass rush was great for the Seahawks, the Eagles really took away those passes between the numbers and didn't give up the deep ball and there wasn't much Wentz was going to do because he doesn't have the skills (yet) to beat teams on throws outside the numbers or stand in the pocket and beat a team deep without relying on the play to break down.




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definitely agree on the front four. I want to see how Jaylon plays over the final games before screaming for LB. He seems to be improving and you don't want to invest a top pick if you don't have too.
 

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I still think my favorite play of the year was the play they showed in the Skins game were Skins went straight man across the board, brought the last safety up to the LOS where there wasn't a soul between the hashes and our WRs all ran routes outside the hashes with no route in the middle of the vacated middle........ awesome sauce right there.

Yep. We could get Switz running right down the middle, after we now see what he can do in the open field, but nope. "We do what we do"...........:rolleyes:
 

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Agree largely on offense

Regarding draft and DL, our needs for next year on defense are starters at 1T DT, starting LB (preferably MIKE) and starting safety. Can get them via draft or FA or both

We need everything. You cant pass up a great corner either. There is no guarantee after one game that Awuzie is going to be great or the other rookie at corner. In my opinion you take the best available defensive player the first two rounds.
 

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I'm confused. One thing I've learned following the Garrett-era Cowboys is that if you lose one of your best defensive players to injury, you're supposed to curl up into fetal position and give up five touchdowns. The Seahawks are down Sherman and Chancellor, but they played an outstanding game. We need Marinelli to call up their defensive staff and offer them a little of his wisdom on how to incorporate backups into the defensive game plan.
 

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The only time we get someone that wide open is usually Twill running a drag across the field. Everyone knows our offense now. Button hooks, flys, out routes, and option routes.

I hear the local Jr High coach is pissed and wants his playbook back! Smh

Does anyone ever call out the coaches on this? Never seen the question asked by the media.
 

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I saw a HC by the name of Pederson make Garrett look like Bill Belichick. Completely out coached in every aspect of the game. Bush league.
 

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Does anyone ever call out the coaches on this? Never seen the question asked by the media.
DFW media...forget about it. They want "access" instead of asking any worthy questions. I've never heard any detailed questions (or followups) that doesn't give JG an easy out; instead of putting pressure to own a problem or detailing a schematic failure.
 
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