Autoloans now average 69.3 month

JoeyBoy718

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Yea, but u need to build credit

I don't have a car and I built credit just by getting multiple credit cards and paying them off twice a month. I also made student loan payments for two years. In a span of about 3 years my credit went from 500 to 800.
 
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As my dad use to say, "if you can't pay cash for it, you can't afford it."

Yep. I used to buy all my cars used when I had cars. Now I buy all my phones used. $200 for an iPhone on eBay that was $1k a year ago. I don't but I into making bad decisions just to build credit. There are other ways to build credit. Buying a house is smart because you can flip it for profit. You always lose money on buying a new car.
 

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Yep. I used to buy all my cars used when I had cars. Now I buy all my phones used. $200 for an iPhone on eBay that was $1k a year ago. I don't but I into making bad decisions just to build credit. There are other ways to build credit. Buying a house is smart because you can flip it for profit. You always lose money on buying a new car.
The $1k iPhone didn’t come out until this year.:rolleyes:
 

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I bought a Toyota Tacoma brand new in 2002 and said I would drive it until the wheels fall off. It still drives like brand new. After looking into the price of the 2017 Toyota Tacomas Ill be driving mine until the wheels fall off and then fix it and continue driving it.
 

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I bought a Toyota Tacoma brand new in 2002 and said I would drive it until the wheels fall off. It still drives like brand new. After looking into the price of the 2017 Toyota Tacomas Ill be driving mine until the wheels fall off and then fix it and continue driving it.

Still driving a 2004 4Runner (same bulletproof V6 as the Tacoma) with 204K miles on it. The new Forester we just bought was meant to replace our 2004 Corolla (that's still running like a champ) that has 250K miles on it.
 

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Wow, she was robbed.

I agree. I think it was a few hundred extra to get it unlocked. Otherwise you could get it for cheaper with a contract. I got the same phone unlocked on eBay a year later for $200. Still have it.
 

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Use your credit card (even though you have the cash on hand) for purchases and pay it off monthly. I didn't mean it literally.

Yep. Having a mix of credit (credit cards, loans) helps your credit a little but not nearly as much as making payments on time. I'm just working on building up an extremely high credit limit and using as little percentage as possible (the higher your limit the harder it is to use 10+%). The good thing about credit cards is there's no commitment. You don't even have to use it. Buy a soda once a month if you want. Whereas with a loan, you have to pay it. You just can't stop without any consequences. I'm very cautious about making commitments.
 

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Yep. Having a mix of credit (credit cards, loans) helps your credit a little but not nearly as much as making payments on time. I'm just working on building up an extremely high credit limit and using as little percentage as possible (the higher your limit the harder it is to use 10+%). The good thing about credit cards is there's no commitment. You don't even have to use it. Buy a soda once a month if you want. Whereas with a loan, you have to pay it. You just can't stop without any consequences. I'm very cautious about making commitments.

I have been using a different technique for awhile. I think we have 8 or 9 CC's and on three of them, we keep it around 25% utilization while never paying it off. The other cards are usually at zero balance, just use them sparingly to show activity. The AMEX is of course paid every month and we use it for most things.

That and a few loans(mortgage, boat and auto) has worked well. I make sure to never be late on a payment, that mark stings. I keep those few cards below 1/3rd limit because I have heard that is best, not sure though.
 

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Wow!

More than 5 years for an average car loan?

When I was a teenager looking at cars 1-2 years was it for a used car with a new car loan at 36 months.

And the average monthly payment? Now $517.

That's a lot.
I have a bad habit, I get a new vehicle every year to a year and a half for me and my wife. I don't have any other payments, though. Haven't had a house payment in 20 years. New vehicles is my vice. I love new car smell?
 

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i only did 72 months on my car because interest is cheap. why make super high payments when i intend to keep this car for 10+ years and its 2%?
 

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Most new car buyers are underwater immediately.......and I'm not talking Houston or New Orleans cars

0% interest is great if you can get it but it usually means paying full sticker

I think the best zone is 2 years old and 20k miles....let the first guy take the depreciation hit

Wife and I got a mini-van in April since we were expecting. We were looking at 1-2 years old that had like 15-20k miles. After doing the math we got new. Getting 0% on the new vehicle was easy, but you don't get it for used. In the end, after factoring interest and tax, the new vehicle was only 1k more overall. To me it was easily a better value going new.

And this was over 5k below sticker that we ended up at.
 

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I have been saying this for several years. Because the price of cars are outpacing the annual increase in salaries, we are going to reach a point where car manufacturers will have to shift their business model from selling cars, to either subscriptions (leasing 2.0) or annual rental agreements.

What I said would happen is that eventually car manufacturers would realize they are pricing their cars out of the reach of most people and while that low/normal car payment seems great for year 1 and most of year 2, as maintenance and problem expenses start happening after 2-3 years, suddenly you realize you are paying new car rate payments for a car that's not new, is costing you more money and is more likely to have something go wrong with it. All the while, your friend, coworker, neighbor, etc. are driving around brand new cars they just bought and are paying the same or even lower than you are each month.

The same will eventually happen with other markets as well such as phones (already has in some cases) where products become too expensive for most people to buy and subsidizing is no longer viable for third party companies.

The most logical move by car manufacturers is to offer new types of car leases (more like rentals) where every 1-2 years, you bring your car back and drive home with a new one. It becomes a perpetual rental agreement that allows car manufacturers to lock in their customers, much like phone companies do.

very interesting thought.

I bought my car - Ford Escape - two years ago.
put a good down payment down. Got a great price.

Thought I could get to 0% financing.
Well that disappeared in a puff of smoke.

Then the finance guy got me ......

Never again - next time either buying used or a straight cash buy.
 
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