Brugler has us pick

winzstar · Jan 16, 2018

I like Brugler. I'm not in favor of a DT3. A big ole DT1 is my want.

sdfidaho · Jan 16, 2018

cnuball21 said:
I think you might Ben undervaluing what he's capable of. He was PFFs top graded defender.

"Our top-graded player, Hurst was unstoppable against both the run (94.4) and as a pass-rusher (92.3) where he topped all interior defensive linemen. He led all interior rushers with 48 total pressures (seven sacks, 10 QB hits, and 29 hurries"

I’m a little surprised your this high on him cnub.
Like me, I thought you were worried about his size vs. NFL OLineman?
I have no doubt the kid can play, but what a huge gamble that he’ll be able to hold up (let alone dominate) at his size with the 19th pick.

dogunwo · Jan 16, 2018

cowboyec said:
I love the pick personally.
I think he is the best DT in the group.
Correct me if Im wrong but this would be the 1st DT in Rd 1 since Russel Maryland??

I like Hurst...athletic...versitle...strong...good v the run and gets to the QB.
Id be more than ok with him or Christian Wilkins.

Christian Wilkins has announced he is returning to school.

Alexander · Jan 16, 2018

btcutter said:
5. Denver Broncos - Josh Allen, QB, Wyoming
Denver has major question marks at quarterback, and there are obvious connections to make between the Broncos and the Wyoming prospect. In a controlled setting like the Senior Bowl, Allen has a chance to shine under the direction of the Broncos' coaching staff and it is fair to assume that John Elway will be intrigued with his elite physical traits.

It would be good for us to have more QBs go prior to the pick, but I don't see how any talent evaluator can look at Allen and think he is a top five pick. He might not even be a first rounder based on how he played this year. He is a rare super media hype player. Usually you see some get overrated, but nothing like this.

cnuball21 · Jan 16, 2018

sdfidaho said:
I’m a little surprised your this high on him cnub.
Like me, I thought you were worried about his size vs. NFL OLineman?
I have no doubt the kid can play, but what a huge gamble that he’ll be able to hold up (let alone dominate) at his size with the 19th pick.

I typically do look for the prototype size for the position but man at the end of the day his tape doesn't lie.

And like I said, he's gone back to back seasons producing playing for a nationally ranked team.

cowboyec · Jan 16, 2018

dogunwo said:
Christian Wilkins has announced he is returning to school.

didnt know that at the time.
I like him...good for clemson tho.

sdfidaho · Jan 16, 2018

dogunwo said:
Christian Wilkins has announced he is returning to school.

Wow
I guess he thinks he can be a top pick next year, and maybe he can, but seems like a big gamble to me

jay94 · Jan 16, 2018

Hardline said:
According to this mock at least 4 players that are regularly discussed at 19 are flying up the draft board.
It never fails.

Thank Garret for the pointless win, 16th drafting position and we can get at least one of them. Based on Smith and Ridley being number one at their position, with teams having a need for both I don't see either of them being realistic for the Cowboys, a possibility yes. What will be most telling is what teams like Bears and 49ers do in FA where both those targets could easily land.

sdfidaho · Jan 16, 2018

Alexander said:
It would be good for us to have more QBs go prior to the pick, but I don't see how any talent evaluator can look at Allen and think he is a top five pick. He might not even be a first rounder based on how he played this year. He is a rare super media hype player. Usually you see some get overrated, but nothing like this.

He may have the highest ceiling of any QB’s coming out this year.
No, he’s not ready to start right away, but.......

btcutter · Jan 16, 2018

sdfidaho said:
He may have the highest ceiling of any QB’s coming out this year.
No, he’s not ready to start right away, but.......

I hate "POTENTIAL". It's a franchise killer.
Honestly I cannot remember that last time a QB who cannot complete 60% of his passes in Division I school become a superstar in NFL.

It's great for the Cowboys for all the QBs to get pushed up. More none QB players get pushed down.

Alexander · Jan 16, 2018

btcutter said:
I hate "POTENTIAL". It's a franchise killer.
Honestly I cannot remember that last time a QB who cannot complete 60% of his passes in Division I school become a superstar in NFL.

It's great for the Cowboys for all the QBs to get pushed up. More none QB players get pushed down.

He will have his shot at the Senior Bowl. After that I have a feeling people will know all about him.

sdfidaho · Jan 16, 2018

cnuball21 said:
I typically do look for the prototype size for the position but man at the end of the day his tape doesn't lie.

And like I said, he's gone back to back seasons producing playing for a nationally ranked team.

Well, with Wilkins announcing his return to Clemson, any shot of Vea making it to the Cowboys probably just went out the window.
I want a disruptive DT more than anything at #19, so I guess I’m on the Hurst bandwagon now

sdfidaho · Jan 16, 2018

btcutter said:
I hate "POTENTIAL". It's a franchise killer.
Honestly I cannot remember that last time a QB who cannot complete 60% of his passes in Division I school become a superstar in NFL.

It's great for the Cowboys for all the QBs to get pushed up. More none QB players get pushed down.

QB’s and RB’s please.....

Sydla · Jan 16, 2018

cnuball21 said:
I think you might Ben undervaluing what he's capable of. He was PFFs top graded defender.

"Our top-graded player, Hurst was unstoppable against both the run (94.4) and as a pass-rusher (92.3) where he topped all interior defensive linemen. He led all interior rushers with 48 total pressures (seven sacks, 10 QB hits, and 29 hurries"

Take PFF with a grain of salt.

rags747 · Jan 16, 2018

Direwolf63 said:
Would have been nice to lose that last Philly game. Those 2 or 3 spots make a big difference.

Nope, everybody wanted the WIN.

texbumthelife · Jan 16, 2018

If Derwin James is there @17 you have to got get him.

Risen Star · Jan 16, 2018

Man, if I have to keep reading how great it is for the Cowboys if the QBs go before they pick I'm going to lose my mind.

Hello?! .....They have no QB!

cnuball21 · Jan 16, 2018

sdfidaho said:
Well, with Wilkins announcing his return to Clemson, any shot of Vea making it to the Cowboys probably just went out the window.
I want a disruptive DT more than anything at #19, so I guess I’m on the Hurst bandwagon now

Vea is my guy! If I had to choose between him and Hurst I'd probably go Vea. Not saying one is better than the other I'd just love to see what a talented 1T would look like on our roster. Its been too long!!!

cnuball21 · Jan 16, 2018

Sydla said:
Take PFF with a grain of salt.

We can - but you can also completely disregard the ratings and still be very impressed with what I just posted about Hurst from a pressure perspective.

sdfidaho · Jan 16, 2018

texbumthelife said:
If Derwin James is there @17 you have to got get him.

That would be so JJ/JG.
Win a meaningless game against the Shegals in super ugly fashion, then trade away draft picks to get back to where you would have been to get a player, :banghead:

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