Matt Eberflus - Cowboys offered him D-Coordnator job

Idgit · Jan 16, 2018

buybuydandavis said:
Ryan loved him and brought him with him.
When we changed to Kiffin, he kept him.
Marinelli kept him.
And now McDaniels wants him, and we wanted to keep him.

Seems like a lot of people are high on Eberflus. I am not surprised that somehow we managed not to keep an up and coming guy, instead keeping two dead enders who failed as HCs. Garrett knows how to protect himself.

A lot of people are high on Marinelli, too. There are a lot of good coaches in the NFL who happen to be old. Being a failed HC means nothing as far as a DC is concerned.

And why in the world would Jason Garrett “protect himself” by retaining an inferior coach? That makes no sense.

Floatyworm · Jan 16, 2018

John813 said:
Can't blame Matt for declining.

So we wanted to keep him at almost any cost necessary but not get rid of Rod to make it work.

Jerry's loyality to bad coaches will be his final undoing...

buybuydandavis · Jan 17, 2018

Idgit said:
A lot of people are high on Marinelli, too. There are a lot of good coaches in the NFL who happen to be old. Being a failed HC means nothing as far as a DC is concerned.

And why in the world would Jason Garrett “protect himself” by retaining an inferior coach? That makes no sense.

Who is high on Marinelli? Anyone outside of the Cowboys? Is his phone ringing off the hook?

Being a failed HC may mean nothing as far as a DC, but it means a lot as far as a HC. Garrett's OC and DC are two failed HCs, making them not a threat to replace him. A few years as a DC in Dallas, and Eberflus becomes a viable HC candidate.

Idgit · Jan 17, 2018

buybuydandavis said:
Who is high on Marinelli? Anyone outside of the Cowboys? Is his phone ringing off the hook?

Being a failed HC may mean nothing as far as a DC, but it means a lot as far as a HC. Garrett's OC and DC are two failed HCs, making them not a threat to replace him. A few years as a DC in Dallas, and Eberflus becomes a viable HC candidate.

Marinelli’s reputation outside of Cowboys chat rooms is safe. Safer than the assumptions you’re making about Eberflus’ here.

And Garrett’s got a guaranteed contract. He just needs to win. If he wins, it doesn’t matter who his position coaches are. I realize the urgency to characterize negatively everything the team does that’s not actually replacing the head coach is powerful, but let’s at least try to have the narrative match the actual facts of the matter. The idea that he’s getting job security by hanging onto inferior coaches because the better coaches would be a threat to replace him if the team is *successful* makes zero sense.

stilltheguru88 · Jan 17, 2018

bayeslife said:
Hahahahahahaha

At this point we should just root for everything to blow up next year. unreal

Oh I also love how Marinelli would have been assistant head coach that just goes to show you what a puppet Garrett really is

I hate wasting a full year but I’m leaning towards a 3-13 season wish. If this team doesn’t look markedly better from the start I’m jumping ship. Screw this

blueblood70 · Jan 17, 2018

Look theres other threads accusing the cowboys of being stupid not trying to keep the guy and now the truth comes out they in fact were trying to keep him offered a big raise and the dc position..now naysayers trying to blame the management more saying this and that...

It is what it is they liked him offfered him the raise and promotion, he left..this one is NOT ON JJ AND MANAGMENT ITS ON EFERBLUS...

Get over it move on..the fact is he was on th staff and first half of the year when lee was gone the linebackers and this defense blew two huge games against the rams and go that were the difference between the playoffs and us sitting at home..they played better late but no one knows how good this assistant is or will be lets see two years from now..

noshame · Jan 17, 2018

Yeah they wanted to give them the job with Rod breathing over shoulder no thanks I don't blame him

blueblood70 · Jan 17, 2018

stilltheguru88 said:
I hate wasting a full year but I’m leaning towards a 3-13 season wish. If this team doesn’t look markedly better from the start I’m jumping ship. Screw this

Go now bro we dont need bandwagon fans..move on

Otto65 · Jan 17, 2018

I'm sure Eberflus said all the right things as his reasons for moving on to the Colts. But my guess is the real reason is he knows as long as Garrett is the coach, the Cowboys will continue to be that same team that wins 8 or 9 games every year with no real shot at going deep into the playoffs. It's too bad he is leaving because I think Eberflus is one of the rising stars in the coaching ranks.

blueblood70 · Jan 17, 2018

Floatyworm said:
Jerry's loyality to bad coaches will be his final undoing...

Bad lmao RM as much as we seemed bad without lee inn there took 18 new players which included the entire backend of the defense of rookies and 2nd year players and by seasons end our d was ranked 8th overall..id hardly call that bad..

Our entire team and staff had a down year,,all that and we misse the playoffs by 2 games w e are not Cleveland bro...it was an i off year period and we had truly more injuries at key positions and suspensions and a retirement plus released all our fas etc..this team is closer to 2016 than what we just witnessed..

Bad is rediculous to call a guy who did more with less this year..sure imo a new staff is needed but even jJG ISNT BAD HES JUST NOT GREAT...

Sydla · Jan 17, 2018

blueblood70 said:
Bad lmao RM as much as we seemed bad without lee inn there took 18 new players which included the entire backend of the defense of rookies and 2nd year players and by seasons end our d was ranked 8th overall..id hardly call that bad..

Our entire team and staff had a down year,,all that and we misse the playoffs by 2 games w e are not Cleveland bro...it was an i off year period and we had truly more injuries at key positions and suspensions and a retirement plus released all our fas etc..this team is closer to 2016 than what we just witnessed..

Bad is rediculous to call a guy who did more with less this year..sure imo a new staff is needed but even jJG ISNT BAD HES JUST NOT GREAT...

People just love to ignore history, I guess. You guys can latch onto 2016 all you want, but the reality is this team and franchise right now is a middle of the pack franchise and 9-7 is actually pretty accurate in terms of what we are.

If people are happy with that, that's fine. I expect more.

OmerV · Jan 17, 2018

Beast_from_East said:
Jerry and Garrett would screw up a wet dream, seriously....................no wonder we haven't won crap with these guys

Why are you so certain this is a screw up, and what exactly is the screw up - wanting to keep him?
Eberflus may be a great coach (or maybe not), but I don't see anything in his resume' that indicates that he is a jewel the team couldn't afford to lose.

OmerV · Jan 17, 2018

buybuydandavis said:
Apparently Eberflus thinks so.

Not necessarily if it's true he didn't want to stay in Dallas because he didn't want to be responsible for forcing Marinelli out of the DC role. It may be this was the alternative that prevented that while still allowing him to be promoted.

OmerV · Jan 17, 2018

Idgit said:
A lot of people are high on Marinelli, too. There are a lot of good coaches in the NFL who happen to be old. Being a failed HC means nothing as far as a DC is concerned.

And why in the world would Jason Garrett “protect himself” by retaining an inferior coach? That makes no sense.

And there are always young guys that are "up and comers" but that doesn't automatically mean they are worthy of the title. Just as not all players who are top prospects work out, the same is true of "up and comer" coaches. Time will tell.

SportsGuru80 · Jan 17, 2018

Clearly an unfounded rumor. I would look to replace Eberflus with Kris Richard and keep it moving.

Sydla · Jan 17, 2018

OmerV said:
Why are you so certain this is a screw up, and what exactly is the screw up - wanting to keep him?
Eberflus may be a great coach (or maybe not), but I don't see anything in his resume' that indicates that he is a jewel the team couldn't afford to lose.

I think the screw up is the fact that this team clearly doesn't think Marinelli is irreplaceable to the point they were willing to try to bump him out of the DC position to keep a guy who has never been a DC before in his life.

In an offseason where Jerry is saying they need to really analyze things and get answers to failures that showed at times this season, if they are willing to push Marinelli aside and give him what is basically an emeritus position for a first time DC, then they should probably really be thinking about replacing Marinelli anyway.

But unfortunately, it seems that Jerry is now driven by loyalty and familiarity, results being a tertiary, at best, concern.

Haimerej · Jan 17, 2018

Sydla said:
I think the screw up is the fact that this team clearly doesn't think Marinelli is irreplaceable to the point they were willing to try to bump him out of the DC position to keep a guy who has never been a DC before in his life.

In an offseason where Jerry is saying they need to really analyze things and get answers to failures that showed at times this season, if they are willing to push Marinelli aside and give him what is basically an emeritus position for a first time DC, then they should probably really be thinking about replacing Marinelli anyway.

But unfortunately, it seems that Jerry is now driven by loyalty and familiarity, results being a tertiary, at best, concern.

Or maybe it speaks to how they feel about Eberflus. There's no doubt Marinelli is a highly respected coach around the league. But at his age you have to start thinking about the future.

Sydla · Jan 17, 2018

Haimerej said:
Or maybe it speaks to how they feel about Eberflus. There's no doubt Marinelli is a highly respected coach around the league. But at his age you have to start thinking about the future.

I am sure they do feel Eberflus is a good coach. But again, if you are willing to shove Marinelli aside for him, then you aren't totally sold on Marinelli being the best out there.

So if Jerry is really about looking hard at the team's issues and why 2017 was the way it was, if you are willing to move on from Marinelli for Eberflus, that pretty much tells me you think you can improve what you are doing on defense. If Marinelli is doing such a fantastic job, you wouldn't consider bumping him out for a guy who has never been a DC before.

In the end, I don't think Jerry has any desire to go outside the organization at this point for any real help at HC, OC and DC.

Further, if one is really truly honest, Marinelli hasn't done that great a job. Most of the stats indicate that this is still a pretty mediocre defense. But I suspect they just think if they throw more talent at problems, the talent will overcome any coaching issues.

It's foolish thinking IMO.

Haimerej · Jan 17, 2018

Sydla said:
I am sure they do feel Eberflus is a good coach. But again, if you are willing to shove Marinelli aside for him, then you aren't totally sold on Marinelli being the best out there.

So if Jerry is really about looking hard at the team's issues and why 2017 was the way it was, if you are willing to move on from Marinelli for Eberflus, that pretty much tells me you think you can improve what you are doing on defense. If Marinelli is doing such a fantastic job, you wouldn't consider bumping him out for a guy who has never been a DC before.

In the end, I don't think Jerry has any desire to go outside the organization at this point for any real help at HC, OC and DC.

Promotion from within is about familiarity. They know what Eberflus brings and they respect him. I believe it has more to do with consistency than simply wanting to push Marinelli aside. If they truly felt that way, they could've just fired Rod.

Stash · Jan 17, 2018

Sydla said:
People just love to ignore history, I guess. You guys can latch onto 2016 all you want, but the reality is this team and franchise right now is a middle of the pack franchise and 9-7 is actually pretty accurate in terms of what we are.

If people are happy with that, that's fine. I expect more.

Even 9-7 is a gift, some fans just can't acknowledge that fact.

If that fluke fumble doesn't happen against Oakland, that's a loss.

If the Eagles needed the week 17 game for any reason, that's a loss.

People can point to 9-7 and call it a "winning season" if they want, and "technically" it is, but any such talk smacks of desperation.

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