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Marinelli does not want two 3 Techs.

I am not sure why this has suddenly gotten traction this year.

Marinelli wants a guy at the 1 Tech that can be a two gap player with a little bit of explosion. A guy who can eat up blocks and occasionally penetrate. Look at the guys he brought in........... Hayden, Paea, McClain, etc.............. not one of those guys is a true, gap splitting 3 Tech.

I like Hurst but only if they are thinking he's a clear 3 Tech and they have other plans for Collins and/or Irving. Maybe they are thinking Irving goes to SDE and plays some interior DL in pass situations. Collins is then the 1 Tech (which I think is a mistake but they apparently don't) and Hurst is the 3 Tech?

I didn't mean to suggest he would have two tackles playing the 3-tech in the same formation. I can't remember when or where I heard it, but his philosophy was something along the lines of "the 1-tech's job is to eat a double-team so the other 3 rushers can get single blocks. If the 1-tech can't rush the passer, the offense will just double-team someone else." I also remember hearing somewhere he liked guys he thought could do both so that if the line needed to shift formation the offense wouldn't get that mismatch and also so he can call DL stunts.

I don't know though, do you think his philosophy is different?
 
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1. Cleveland Browns - Sam Darnold, QB, USC
The Browns' search for a long-term answer at quarterback will continue into the offseason. Darnold's turnovers stand out, but so do his intangibles, passing instincts and ability to move the pocket and create plays. Three months before the draft, Darnold is the current favorite to go No. 1 to the Browns.

2. New York Giants - Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA
The Giants don't expect to be drafting in the top-three very often. So with the future of Eli Manning very much up in the air, the Giants should target their quarterback of the future. Rosen is far from a clean prospect, but his natural passing skills and arm talent are starter quality.

3. Indianapolis Colts - Bradley Chubb, DE, NC State
Entering his second draft, Colts general manager Chris Ballard has plenty of holes to fill. The defense lacks impact players on the edge who can put pressure on the quarterback, but Chubb would change that. The NC State pass rusher is a strong candidate to be the first non-quarterback drafted.

4. Cleveland Browns (from Houston) - Minkah Fitzpatrick, CB, Alabama
With a league-low 13 takeaways on the season, the Browns are void of playmakers in the secondary. Whether he is playing cornerback, free safety or nickel, Fitzpatrick has the intelligence, leadership and physical skillset to be a game-changer.

5. Denver Broncos - Josh Allen, QB, Wyoming
Denver has major question marks at quarterback, and there are obvious connections to make between the Broncos and the Wyoming prospect. In a controlled setting like the Senior Bowl, Allen has a chance to shine under the direction of the Broncos' coaching staff and it is fair to assume that John Elway will be intrigued with his elite physical traits.

6. New York Jets - Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State
With three quarterbacks off the board in this scenario, the Jets could look to Oklahoma's Baker Mayfield. However, a playmaker like Barkley still on the board would be hard to pass up.

7. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Quenton Nelson, OG, Notre Dame
The Buccaneers need to do some reshuffling and upgrading on the offensive line. Picking an offensive guard in the top-seven isn't a sexy selection, but Nelson is arguably the best player in the 2018 draft class and would help stabilize Tampa's interior protection

8. Chicago Bears - Denzel Ward, CB, Ohio State
Chicago lacks playmakers on the outside at cornerback and needs to find upgrades this offseason. Ward lacks ideal height, but his feet, hips and eyes make him a potentially special cover man.

9. San Francisco 49ers - Roquan Smith, LB, Georgia
Combining the talents of Smith with Reuben Foster would remind 49ers fans of Patrick Willis and Navarro Bowman. Smith would be drafted to be the starting WILL linebacker, and with Foster's injury history and off-field concerns, he would also provide insurance.

10. Oakland Raiders - Vita Vea, DT, Washington
The Raiders have one of the weakest interior defensive-line units in the AFC and need to upgrade from the inside out on defense. At 340 pounds, Vea is a rare player with his power to handle double teams and athleticism to chase down ballcarriers on the perimeter.

11. Miami Dolphins - Tremaine Edmunds, LB, Virginia Tech
Quarterback or offensive line are options here, but the Dolphins also need to make upgrades on the defensive side of the ball, including at linebacker. Edmunds has the size of a defensive end but moves more like a safety and displays the budding instincts to be a future NFL Pro Bowler.

12. Cincinnati Bengals - Connor Williams, OT, Texas
The Bengals need to address offensive tackle this offseason, possibly with this pick. After putting together first-round tape in 2016, Williams had a rollercoaster 2017 season, starting with a poor September followed by a midseason knee injury and then a strong finish.

13. Green Bay Packers - Marcus Davenport, DE/OLB, UTSA
With the future of Clay Matthews Jr. in a Packers uniform in doubt, Green Bay will be looking to add another pass rush option to the arsenal. Davenport is a good-looking athlete with a hoops background and the potential to be a difference-maker.

14. Washington Commanders - Da'Ron Payne, DT, Alabama
After drafting an Alabama defensive lineman in the first round last year (Jonathan Allen), the Commanders could repeat the recipe this April. Payne moves very well for his size and has the upper body power to bully blockers, allowing coaches to line him up at various positions.

15. Arizona Cardinals - Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma
The quarterback position is currently a question mark on the Cardinals' depth chart and Mayfield is one of the possible answers. He would present a considerable change from the retired Carson Palmer, but that is not exactly a bad thing.

16. Baltimore Ravens - Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama
The Ravens have only two wideouts with 20+ catches this season (Mike Wallace, Jeremy Maclin) and need to add a young playmaker to help Joe Flacco. Ridley offers NFL-ready route-running and the play speed to create - both before and after the catch.

17. Los Angeles Chargers - Derwin James, SS, Florida State
A safety this high in the draft would buck the trend of what the Chargers usually do in the first round, but James has the athletic profile and NFL ceiling that should force the front office to think outside the box.

18. Seattle Seahawks - Josh Jackson, CB, Iowa
One of the breakthrough prospects this season, Jackson finished the college football season No. 1 in ball production (26 passes defended, eight interceptions). He offers the size, length and instincts that fit well in Seattle.

19. Dallas Cowboys - Maurice Hurst, DT, Michigan
Most Cowboys fans weren't thrilled with a Michigan defensive lineman in the first round last year, but they should be intrigued if Dallas goes back to Ann Arbor to upgrade the defensive front. Hurst is a disruptive three-technique prospect who offers the quickness and power to surge through gaps and make plays in the backfield.

Cleveland would be crazy to take him with the 1st pick. Give me Barkley with the 1st pick and Payne/Fitzpatrick with the 4th.
 

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I’m a little surprised your this high on him cnub.
Like me, I thought you were worried about his size vs. NFL OLineman?
I have no doubt the kid can play, but what a huge gamble that he’ll be able to hold up (let alone dominate) at his size with the 19th pick.

wasn't that the knock on Donaldson?
 

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Eh, not as high on Hurst compared with Bryan, Vita, Payne or Phillips.
But I did only watch him in very limited clips
 

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Eh, not as high on Hurst compared with Bryan, Vita, Payne or Phillips.
But I did only watch him in very limited clips

Go back and watch some more - I think you'll be impressed.

I watched this years tape vs OSU for like 2 minutes and walked away with him effecting multiple plays vs the run and pass.
 

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I don't like the pick.

We have our 3-tech in Collins and getting smaller inside with Hurst is not a bright idea IMO.
 

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Hurst would rank 4th on DTs I'd want in the first round, if you mix the likely 1 Techs and 3 Techs. I have to think Payne or Vita will likely be there, especially if you look at past drafts. Teams aren't really using high first round picks on DTs anymore.
 

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I don't think Hurst will be a first rounder by the time post-season evaluations are over. Solid DT but just not a special player and his ceiling is pretty low. Add in his limited size and position flexibility. Those types usually drop to day 2.

He wouldn't be a starter here with Irving and Collins, so I would be pretty surprised with the pick.

We need as much quality depth on the Dline as possible. The best defences have a solid rotation amongst the tackles.

I mean the Giants of the early Coughlin days kept drafting high end DEs even though they had capable starters already. That rotation made them killer
 

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Hurst would rank 4th on DTs I'd want in the first round, if you mix the likely 1 Techs and 3 Techs. I have to think Payne or Vita will likely be there, especially if you look at past drafts. Teams aren't really using high first round picks on DTs anymore.

Who’s 1-3?
I want Vea, period!
But now that Wilkins chose to go back, I don’t see any way Vea makes it to #19.
Next up for me is Hurst. I wish he had another 20 pounds on him, but he’s the only other 1st Round DT talent in my opinion.......and I really want a disruptive DT at #19.
Otherwise, trade down a few spots to get an additional 3rd round and go BPA at the many areas of need.
 

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Man, if I have to keep reading how great it is for the Cowboys if the QBs go before they pick I'm going to lose my mind.

Hello?! .....They have no QB!

You aren't thinking realistically..the team isn't drafting a qb..whether we have one right now or not
 

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I seriously doubt Hurst is the pick if....

Arden Key OLB/DE LSU
Courtland Sutton WR SMU

are still on the board...:omg:
 

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That's why we are a bad short yardage/goal line D. Every time it's 3rd or 4th and short/goal I pretty much give the other team a 1st down or TD in my mind.
I understand he wants to be disruptive but sometimes you need BEEF. The good BEEF and not just any kinda meat.
This is truth.
 

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I seriously doubt Hurst is the pick if....

Arden Key OLB/DE LSU
Courtland Sutton WR SMU


are still on the board...:omg:

I'd draft Hurst over both of those dudes without hesitation.

Key has the tools to be a top 10 talent, but he's got some off the field issues so I could see him falling all the way to the 2nd.
 

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Who’s 1-3?
I want Vea, period!
But now that Wilkins chose to go back, I don’t see any way Vea makes it to #19.
Next up for me is Hurst. I wish he had another 20 pounds on him, but he’s the only other 1st Round DT talent in my opinion.......and I really want a disruptive DT at #19.
Otherwise, trade down a few spots to get an additional 3rd round and go BPA at the many areas of need.

In order..........

Bryan - I think he's a better version of Hurst
Payne - Big time run stopper with some athleticism
Vea - Same as Payne, I just like Payne more
Hurst - I can live with him but he wouldn't be a must have in the first round for me

I am always up for trading down if there is value in doing that.
 

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In order..........

Bryan - I think he's a better version of Hurst
Payne - Big time run stopper with some athleticism
Vea - Same as Payne, I just like Payne more
Hurst - I can live with him but he wouldn't be a must have in the first round for me

I am always up for trading down if there is value in doing that.

I'd go:

Vea
Hurst
Payne ( production doesn't match size/athleticism - but still like him)
Bryan (not a 1st rounder IMO - limited against the run, and we already have that in Collins)
 

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Vea has to put up nice combine numbers to get drafted high. Danny Shelton May mess up his chances
 
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