The NFL is Scripted

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John813 said:
That's my thought. If there is any script, it's by the refs either blowing or swallowing their whistles at certain times.
Tacky hold or Irving getting held with no call.
I can't see a player risking his rare opportunity to stay/play in this league. One thing if this was some random safety signed off the street, but we are talking about a rookie Safety who had a huge INT that sparked that comeback.
Refs aren't far-fetched, as we have seen in the NBA.
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And the refs don't get paid all that much, so it would be feasible that one or more got paid to call a certain way.
 
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That NBA ref admitted a couple of years ago that they wanted the Bulls to win because Jordan was the face of the NBA.
 
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It's not about winning,it's about making money. Panthers & Jags 2nd year in expansion both make it to the NFC & AFC Championship games one game from the Superbowl with scrubs and castoffs from the rest of the NFL.What a great push for these 2 new teams to promote to their home base fans. It's also some politics involved because Hurricane Katrina and here come the Saints. Boston is straddled with debt,corruption,and taxes and Patriots win.Seattle contemplates moving and then they get to the Superbowl...Cities tax the fans for a new stadium and all of sudden that team makes it to the Superbowl,Titans,Cardinals,and Falcons it happened and the fans are appeased and accept the taxes..
 

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I used to watch the NBA. What turned me off was the semi finals w/ my Spurs vs the Lakers. That was some blatant calling to get the Lakers to the finals. Of course, DET pounded them easily in 4 or 5 games, because they didn't belong there in the first place.

But, seriously, I know bad calls happen. But, that was ridiculous. I've never seen such blatant crooked calling in my life. And this is not me being a homer thinking my team always gets bad calls, I mean this was bad.
 
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kskboys said:
Vegas doesn't care who wins. They adjust the line to get even numbers of people betting on both sides, and make a fortune on the difference.

Only time they really take a bath is like the SF/SD super bowl. Man, they kept giving up more and more points and just couldn't get anyone to take the Bolts. Final line was like 21 pts.
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HUGE misconception that they just want 50/50 action. That is not true.

Vegas is greedy. They want the side to lose with 74% of the coin on it, or 80% of the coin on it. Are you kidding me. They don't care when it's 51/49. Don't ever think "vegas doesn't care who wins". They are greedy *******s. Visit sometime and look at the buildings
 

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DakBringMeBack said:
HUGE misconception that they just want 50/50 action. That is not true.

Vegas is greedy. They want the side to lose with 74% of the coin on it, or 80% of the coin on it. Are you kidding me. They don't care when it's 51/49. Don't ever think "vegas doesn't care who wins". They are greedy *******s. Visit sometime and look at the buildings
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You're not understanding the process. Vegas is indeed greedy. So, they make it so they can't lose. If 74% of the coin is going on one team, they'll add points until it evens out. That's against the spread.

On straight up stuff, they simply make you spend $20 to win $1.

Vegas isn't betting on teams to win. They get the people to do that and make a fortune off the extra.
 
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kskboys said:
You're not understanding the process. Vegas is indeed greedy. So, they make it so they can't lose. If 74% of the coin is going on one team, they'll add points until it evens out. That's against the spread.

On straight up stuff, they simply make you spend $20 to win $1.

Vegas isn't betting on teams to win. They get the people to do that and make a fortune off the extra.
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This is exactly correct. OP must have never made a bet before in his life, Vegas and sports bookies make money off the juice, or the cost of placing a bet. Betting 100 costs 110. YOU can PICK either side. They don't tell you which team to pick. The spread has absolutely NOTHING to do with the actual score of the game, they are giving the underdog enough points to entice a 50/50 even split on the bet so that when either team loses, they use the money lost by one side to pay the other and pocket THE JUICE. They are basically charging you to bet against the people who picked the other team.

Also to completely discount OP's theory, 7 points is exactly what was needed for the vikings to cover the spread that game with the wiffed tackle. The vikings chose not to kick the extra point, which let the saints cover, which they were doing prior to that play. The Vikings didn't know the spread but if they did, not kicking the XP was a big **** you to everyone who bet on them and Vegas.
 

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This is exactly correct. OP must have never made a bet before in his life, Vegas and sports bookies make money off the juice, or the cost of placing a bet. Betting 100 costs 110. YOU can PICK either side. They don't tell you which team to pick. The spread has absolutely NOTHING to do with the actual score of the game, they are giving the underdog enough points to entice a 50/50 even split on the bet so that when either team loses, they use the money lost by one side to pay the other and pocket THE JUICE. They are basically charging you to bet against the people who picked the other team.

Also to completely discount OP's theory, 7 points is exactly what was needed for the vikings to cover the spread that game with the wiffed tackle. The vikings chose not to kick the extra point, which let the saints cover, which they were doing prior to that play. The Vikings didn't know the spread but if they did, not kicking the XP was a big **** you to everyone who bet on them and Vegas.
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Good stuff.

People tend to make the non sequitar in that since Vegas is where you bet, that Vegas itself is betting. It is a business to them.

You'll often see teams like our own, the Cowboys, have a much smaller point spread than they should due to a larger fanbase betting on their team.

If there is any crookedness, I can guarantee it is not w/ Vegas itself. Casinos have the feds up their bums at all times. Any hint at crookedness, and they are shut down.

And seriously, the odds favor the house, why should they cheat?
 
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benson said:
This is exactly correct. OP must have never made a bet before in his life, Vegas and sports bookies make money off the juice, or the cost of placing a bet. Betting 100 costs 110. YOU can PICK either side. They don't tell you which team to pick. The spread has absolutely NOTHING to do with the actual score of the game, they are giving the underdog enough points to entice a 50/50 even split on the bet so that when either team loses, they use the money lost by one side to pay the other and pocket THE JUICE. They are basically charging you to bet against the people who picked the other team.

Also to completely discount OP's theory, 7 points is exactly what was needed for the vikings to cover the spread that game with the wiffed tackle. The vikings chose not to kick the extra point, which let the saints cover, which they were doing prior to that play. The Vikings didn't know the spread but if they did, not kicking the XP was a big **** you to everyone who bet on them and Vegas.
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As KSK said, good stuff.

Just one small correction on the point spread. It was +5.5 for the Saints. Not kicking the PAT kept the final margin of victory at 5, so the people who bet on N.O. with the points won the bet. The PAT would have put the winning margin at 6, making Vikings bettors at -5.5 the winning bet. Your point still holds true though, Minnesota not kicking the PAT screwed the people who bet on them. ;)
 
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Ultimately, we are dealing with people. Referees have favorite teams like the rest of us. Even though we haven't done much in a couple of decades, there's a lot of bad blood from when we owned the NFL. I can just about tell you which decade I started hating which team and I still do. If I were on the field, you'd never see my yellow flag send the Cowboys backwards. I'm sure I'd be found out in time and not allowed to roam free with our team. I'd probably leave with a yellow flag full of autographs.
 
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CF74 said:
So he just removes himself from the play and just lets him score? He’s the back up safety, he knows he’s the last defense against a TD.
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Who wins in a game where every player does there job on every down?
 
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*Sigh*

I believe 100% of you would agree that 99.9999% of people in society can’t relate to the travesty of the Kennedy family in this country because they have never personally experienced such an atrocity. That I’m certain we can All agree upon.

So having said that most people can’t relate to conspiracy theorists or even see different angles so they simply write it/them off and deem them as crazy or stupid. I’m envious of your sheltered naivety..

I wish I could still believe in Santa Claus....:(
 
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