I have Dak ranked 3rd in 2018 NFC East QBs

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1. Carson Wentz: clearly he is on the path to becoming the next Aaron Rodgers assuming his health holds up and last year's setback doesn't impede his path to greatness. He is an elite QB in every way and the Eagles moved up to draft the best NFC QB of this generation in the NFL.

2. Nick Foles: Impossible to argue with his incredible Eagles resume, from the ridiculous 2013 season in which he was the second best QB in the league (after taking over at 3-5 for a washed up Vick, he led the team to a 10-6 season) only because Peyton Manning had an NFL-record season -- to his virtuoso Super Bowl MVP 2017-18 playoff campaign which also included an absolute obliteration of the NFL's best defense in 2017, the Vikings. Foles may not be the mobile guy who can execute crazy throws on the run and scramble for big yards like Wentz, but he's a very accurate and clutch pocket passer with great presence and awareness. Also an easy guy to root for.

3. Dak Prescott: After an absolutely stellar rookie campaign, he had an average 2017 season, but that wasn't entirely his fault. Without his running mate nearly half the season, a broken offensive line and a top WR and TE on their last legs, Dak didn't have nearly enough help for him to achieve in 2017. This year, he has a plethora of good-enough receivers, the best back in the league is back 100%, the line should be dominant, and the offense should be very favorable to him. Barring injury, he will bounce back in a big way in 2018.

4. Eli Manning: Certainly, 2017 was a big-time down year for the two-time Super Bowl MVP and champion, but his pedigree, clutchness and hard-won experience gives him the edge over the last player on this list. Manning had arguably the worst offensive line in 2017, no running game, and a defense that could no longer consistently hold up their end of the bargain. With the addition of Nate Solder, Aaron Hernandez and Saquon Barkley, Manning should finally have competent enough pieces around him to make him not look like a broken down version of himself in 2018. They're still trotting out Ereck Flowers but at right tackle, however with the gauntlet of left side edge rushers in the division this could still be a large issue.

5. Alex Smith: One of the most overrated quarterbacks in the league, not merely currently but for a long time. The man tries hard and he protects the football, but he's definitely not an ideal franchise guy by any standards. His throw power is consistently among the worst in the league among starters (no secret) and he's certainly not the QB you want on your side if you're trailing. He's a cerebral player, a very solid bus driver and a nice front runner. Plays very well with the lead. His west coast throws are pinpoint accurate, but flooding the box and flats causes his offense to struggle. Sure, he might occasionally hit a big play if he has the right artillery around him (the Commanders don't at the moment) but his timidness and lack of an NFL arm make him only the fifth-best starting quarterback in the 2018 NFC East.
I wouldn't put Nik Foles as second just because he has a Winning streak......Jeff Hostetler won a superbowl as the Giants back up....and then faded.....Nik foles is limited. that's why he is a back up and bounced around and actually was retired when Philly called him back.... he had a lot and I mean a lot of support around him to get the team to win the superbowl....he had a great game (and due to a great game plan) in the superbowl..... that team with Foles would fall to average...its a different beast with Wentz
 

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It seems I am not the only poster who is trying to have you understand things you say dont make sense. You are the only one with their panties in a bunch with all that bold writing as if you really need to prove yourself in front of the forum.

You are proving more of a nutjob than not:confused:
You talk alot but you never say much try answering the questions i ask you. Looks to me like all of your posts are doing nothing but making my points for me
 

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The dak apologists will continue to blame the down season on green because 1 atrocious game. I mean with tyron and zeke back and needing a win to secure a playoff birth this offense scored a wopping 12 points vs seattle and followed that up with 0 touchdowns vs the iggles 3rd stringers.

But none of that was on our QB...LOL. Most important game of the season, must win and our starting QB with all of his weapons back and playing at home, throws for 181 (and that was the 6 time in our last 8 games Dak threw for under 200 yards in a game and one other game he had 212...he's definatley a stud :lmao2:) with 2 INT's and no TD's, thank god we had Baily for us that day to at least get us 12 points
 
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The dak apologists will continue to blame the down season on green because 1 atrocious game. I mean with tyron and zeke back and needing a win to secure a playoff birth this offense scored a wopping 12 points vs seattle and followed that up with 0 touchdowns vs the iggles 3rd stringers.

There in a Dak COMA no matter how many EGGS Dak lays its always someone else to blame....Dak-bots living there dream with no 4 baby!!
 

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But none of that was on our QB...LOL. Most important game of the season, must win and our starting QB with all of his weapons back and playing at home, throws for 181 (and that was the 6 time in our last 8 games Dak threw for under 200 yards in a game and one other game he had 212...he's definatley a stud :lmao2:) with 2 INT's and no TD's, thank god we had Baily for us that day to at least get us 12 points
I don’t get you. Don’t you realize that 212 yard game was better than his average? He averaged 206 per game. Listen I don’t think the guy is a bum, but he certainly is not a top flight franchise saving QB. While you haven’t lost many because of him, you haven’t won many because of him either. He’s is just a guy. He just happens to be in the most important position.
 

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I don’t get you. Don’t you realize that 212 yard game was better than his average? He averaged 206 per game. Listen I don’t think the guy is a bum, but he certainly is not a top flight franchise saving QB. While you haven’t lost many because of him, you haven’t won many because of him either. He’s is just a guy. He just happens to be in the most important position.

Sorry even i mess up once and awhile..apologies...:--)
 

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Off topic.. Is there another division with 2 first overall and a second overall draft picks starting at QB?
No but each of the other NFC divisions have 2 #1 or #2 picks at QB. AFC Central likewise has 2. Oddly, the other three AFC divisions have none.
 

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You talk alot but you never say much try answering the questions i ask you. Looks to me like all of your posts are doing nothing but making my points for me

Bro you cant even make a point for yourself!

It seems all you do is say things and then say you didnt say it. You are full blown delusinal.
 

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Bro you cant even make a point for yourself!

It seems all you do is say things and then say you didnt say it. You are full blown delusinal.

You seem to want to make them for me, you are telling me you know what i think and you can't tell the difference between an opinion and a fact. When you finish school get back to me
 

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You seem to want to make them for me, you are telling me you know what i think and you can't tell the difference between an opinion and a fact. When you finish school get back to me

So why wont dak meet your expectations this year? Look into that crystal ball and reveal to us. Mind you the season hasnt started yet btw!

I need to know how you come to your predictions. Tell us.....
 

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So why wont dak meet your expectations this year? Look into that crystal ball and reveal to us. Mind you the season hasnt started yet btw!

I need to know how you come to your predictions. Tell us.....

1st of all i haven't made any predictions but like most normal people i base my opinions on past performance. I have not predicted how Dak will perform this season but i have based my opinon about him on how he has performed in the past, if you can't see the difference then there is no use talking with you anymore
 

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1st of all i haven't made any predictions but like most normal people i base my opinions on past performance. I have not predicted how Dak will perform this season but i have based my opinon about him on how he has performed in the past, if you can't see the difference then there is no use talking with you anymore

So you are admitting based on last year you dont see him doing too good this year right???????
 

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So you are admitting based on last year you dont see him doing too good this year right???????

My opinion based on what i have seen his entire career in the NFL is that he is not a franchise QB..again the optimal word here is opinion, it is not a prediction of how he will do this season. Please show me the post where i said "he wasn't going to be good this year" Until you can do that please don't quote or respond to me anymore because at this point you are just wasting my time
 

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Damn...lol i don't even no where to start..First Dak is not the 3rd best QB,maybe he's ahead of Manning,but that is about it..Second the Commanders Recievers and TE's are alot better than what Dallas will trot out there on sundays..Yes Dallas has a elite RB and a very good OL,but they are not stacked at any other position on Offense.Every single team in the NFC East has better skill players than Dallas..Homerism runs strong on this site where every player is a stud or future HOF'er...
1. Carson Wentz: clearly he is on the path to becoming the next Aaron Rodgers assuming his health holds up and last year's setback doesn't impede his path to greatness. He is an elite QB in every way and the Eagles moved up to draft the best NFC QB of this generation in the NFL.

2. Nick Foles: Impossible to argue with his incredible Eagles resume, from the ridiculous 2013 season in which he was the second best QB in the league (after taking over at 3-5 for a washed up Vick, he led the team to a 10-6 season) only because Peyton Manning had an NFL-record season -- to his virtuoso Super Bowl MVP 2017-18 playoff campaign which also included an absolute obliteration of the NFL's best defense in 2017, the Vikings. Foles may not be the mobile guy who can execute crazy throws on the run and scramble for big yards like Wentz, but he's a very accurate and clutch pocket passer with great presence and awareness. Also an easy guy to root for.

3. Dak Prescott: After an absolutely stellar rookie campaign, he had an average 2017 season, but that wasn't entirely his fault. Without his running mate nearly half the season, a broken offensive line and a top WR and TE on their last legs, Dak didn't have nearly enough help for him to achieve in 2017. This year, he has a plethora of good-enough receivers, the best back in the league is back 100%, the line should be dominant, and the offense should be very favorable to him. Barring injury, he will bounce back in a big way in 2018.

4. Eli Manning: Certainly, 2017 was a big-time down year for the two-time Super Bowl MVP and champion, but his pedigree, clutchness and hard-won experience gives him the edge over the last player on this list. Manning had arguably the worst offensive line in 2017, no running game, and a defense that could no longer consistently hold up their end of the bargain. With the addition of Nate Solder, Aaron Hernandez and Saquon Barkley, Manning should finally have competent enough pieces around him to make him not look like a broken down version of himself in 2018. They're still trotting out Ereck Flowers but at right tackle, however with the gauntlet of left side edge rushers in the division this could still be a large issue.

5. Alex Smith: One of the most overrated quarterbacks in the league, not merely currently but for a long time. The man tries hard and he protects the football, but he's definitely not an ideal franchise guy by any standards. His throw power is consistently among the worst in the league among starters (no secret) and he's certainly not the QB you want on your side if you're trailing. He's a cerebral player, a very solid bus driver and a ni
ce front runner. Plays very well with the lead. His west coast throws are pinpoint accurate, but flooding the box and flats causes his offense to struggle. Sure, he might occasionally hit a big play if he has the right artillery around him (the Commanders don't at the moment) but his timidness and lack of an NFL arm make him only the fifth-best starting quarterback in the 2018 NFC East.

In my opinion Foles will fall to earth

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