Hard not to get excited about Armstrong

bayeslife · Aug 14, 2018

CT Dal Fan said:
Just a thought- if Armstrong and Taco Charlton both turn out to be the real deal.....can we trade D-Law to the Jets for a 1st round pick?

And with our other first round pick, maybe get Aaron Donald from the Rams? With Lawrence gone the Cowboys would be up to over $31 million of cap space.

Sorry, I'm just pulling stuff out of the air.

We can just sign Lawrence and get 4 years of (hopefully) quality pass rushers too

Rayman70 · Aug 14, 2018

Ranching said:
Great draft pick by Jerry!!!!!

LMAO...

...When you say Jerry you mean Will McClay and Stevie boy? lol....

xwalker · Aug 14, 2018

QuincyCarterEra said:

THAT is the definition of "bend" in regards to a DE.

Bend is hard to describe in words.

Accelerating around the corner with extreme knee bend (see knees almost touching the ground).

Alexander · Aug 14, 2018

xwalker said:
THAT is the definition of "bend" in regards to a DE.

Bend is hard to describe in words.

Accelerating around the corner with extreme knee bend (see knees almost touching the ground).

Ware was exceptional at getting perpendicular to the ground. This was close.

MichaelWinicki · Aug 14, 2018

Alexander said:
I think part of that was that it was not a position of "need".

But this was an opportunity pick and it looks pretty sharp right now.

Like cornerbacks, you can never have enough pass rushers.

Fixed it.

Alexander · Aug 14, 2018

MichaelWinicki said:
Fixed it.

You need therapy.

Techsass · Aug 14, 2018

Trouty said:

Very cool. Glad you split it up so that I could give you 3 LIKES.

JoeyBoy718 · Aug 14, 2018

bayeslife said:
We can just sign Lawrence and get 4 years of (hopefully) quality pass rushers too

Yep. I think it would be a mistake to let Lawrence go before we know Taco can be a similar player. As it stands, he's not in the same league as Lawrence.

Rayman70 · Aug 14, 2018

Alexander said:
Ware was exceptional at getting perpendicular to the ground. This was close.

Jerry says HE gets perpendickular to the ground every night on the Jerry Bus.

CowboyRoy · Aug 14, 2018

QuincyCarterEra said:
I try not to get my hopes up after limited exposure to a player. Everyone has been pimping out Armstrong after one solid preseason game but I was able to maintain tempering my expectations.

Then this was posted:

Check out that ankle flexibility. Holy cow. For those that dont know, most rookies shouldnt be able to do that, especially not 4th rounder who didnt drop from off field issues.

Here's a snapshot:

Yep its obvious this kid is good. He has all the quickness and bend that Taco simply doesnt. Good players show up.

Rayman70 · Aug 14, 2018

CowboyRoy said:
Yep its obvious this kid is good. He has all the quickness and bend that Taco simply doesnt. Good players show up.

Agree..which is why I think Taco is better as a DT.

CowboyRoy · Aug 14, 2018

Rayman70 said:
Agree..which is why I think Taco is better as a DT.

Not sure what he is at this point. Doesnt get the push. Hard to see him holding up in the middle there. Hes a project backup right now. Definitely not a natural pass rushing RDE.

MichaelWinicki · Aug 14, 2018

bayeslife said:
We can just sign Lawrence and get 4 years of (hopefully) quality pass rushers too

I've been thinking about the Lawrence question.

What do they do with him long-term?

I would think much of it depends on how the young guys progress.

If they progress well, I could see the Cowboys letting Lawrence go after the '19 season... And if the young guys looked great maybe after the '18 season.

If they don't progress much? Then the Cowboys will be forced to sign him long-term. Just don't want the Cowboys to have to sign him because there's no one else that can supply consistent pass rush.

It comes down to you can't keep'em all.

It'll be interesting on how it plays out.

MichaelWinicki · Aug 14, 2018

CowboyRoy said:
Yep its obvious this kid is good. He has all the quickness and bend that Taco simply doesnt. Good players show up.

A DE who doesn't have great quickness can still be a good pass rusher utilizing other facets like power and leverage.

I'd hold off burying Taco at DT too quickly.

Trouty · Aug 14, 2018

MichaelWinicki said:
A DE who doesn't have great quickness can still be a good pass rusher utilizing other facets like power and leverage.

I'd hold off burying Taco at DT too quickly.

He's only played his rookie season, flashed later on in the season, and has had a strong camp. Where the hell this guy gets criticism at this point in his infant-career is missed by me. Several posters here have seen to it to bring him down. Like he was a dud last season, and isn't showing glimpses of continued growth. And before he's even played a snap his year two -- CowboysZone...

CowboyRoy · Aug 14, 2018

MichaelWinicki said:
A DE who doesn't have great quickness can still be a good pass rusher utilizing other facets like power and leverage.

I'd hold off burying Taco at DT too quickly.

True, but Taco isnt very powerful at this point. And he is raw in technique and moves. Did you see those chicken legs?

ScipioCowboy · Aug 14, 2018

gmoney112 said:
There was a 10+ page thread in Draft Zone on this guy, with people swearing up and down he was a blown pick. Much like when we drafted Hitchens, and certain ppl saying he'd never start or get another contract, cough.

That's funny to me.

I’ll be brutally honest. I don’t know anyone past the first two rounds. Dorance Armstrong might as well have been Florence Legweak.

CowboyRoy · Aug 14, 2018

Trouty said:
He's only played his rookie season, flashed later on in the season, and has had a strong camp. Where the hell this guy gets criticism at this point in his infant-career is missed by me. Several posters here have seen to it to bring him down. Like he was a dud last season, and isn't showing glimpses of continued growth. And before he's even played a snap his year two -- CowboysZone...

Listen to yourself talk about him. "hes showing GLIMPSES of continue growth"

Then go listen to people talk about Armstrong. Watch them both play. Big big difference. Taco has NOT had a strong camp. That is a myth. Early in camp he was getting pancaked by Chaz green and practice squad TE's. Then they finally showed a clip of him finally doing something and getting a sack in practice. Then the articles came out because of that one play. Watched the SF over and over and watched him specifically. Nothing impressive.

And the return of Gregory and the emergence of Armstrong have all but relegated him to project backup. Both those guys are natural pass rushers and better than chicken legs fajita.

waving monkey · Aug 14, 2018

I didn't know who any thing about him before the draft and did think "another DE" OK?
Im all in no brake tapping for me.

MichaelWinicki · Aug 14, 2018

CowboyRoy said:
True, but Taco isnt very powerful at this point. And he is raw in technique and moves. Did you see those chicken legs?

Let's see how the kid develops.

Lawrence looked underwhelming his first year and he's not a real quick DE.

Hard not to get excited about Armstrong

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What's it going to be then, eh?

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What's it going to be then, eh?

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"You want some?"

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More than meets the eye.

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