The Eagles Process vs The Cowboys Process

DandyDon52 · Sep 8, 2018

AmericanCowboy said:
Coaching plays a big part. Pederson coaches to win- Garrett coaches not to lose.

Pederson knows how to manage a clock. Garrett doesn’t.

With the eagles coaches last year we go 11-5.

That being said, I firmly believe Garrett doesn’t want to go into Win-Now mode because it hurts his job security. Therefore we are in a perpetual rebuilding.

dont forget shwartz as DC, everyone gives pederson all the credit, but half should go to shwartz.
if garret and marinelli were HC and DC of Phil and lets throw in linehan as OC, would phil have beat Atl in this last game ?
Anyone think our coaches could have won that game with the Phil team ??

I dont think so, for 1 think jones boys would deman Carson play so that changes everything including carsons future lol.
but just with who played , I think marinelli gives up a td there at the end.
And I doubt the game would even be that close.

DandyDon52 · Sep 8, 2018

Dre11 said:
It doesn't takes smarts to gamble. The Eagles didn't know AJai would be good there, he was an issue in Miami. Blount was thought to be done.

I think eagles should have kept Blount another year, and Ajai looks better and fired up this season, he was the one player who looked like
he was trying hard early on. He made some good runs at key times.

Dre11 · Sep 8, 2018

dreameaglegreen said:
Yep, the eagles thought ajayi might not be good, and blount is done, so lets sign 'em, makes sense

Oh BTW since ajayi isn't good, lets give'em a 4th round pick

It went right over your head didn't it. The point is they took a chance on a disgruntled player, and a player New England discarded as done. It worked out for him. But when Jerry did it, and it hadn't work, he was crucified. see Jaylon, see people crying about ET,

IheartRomo · Sep 8, 2018

Risen Star said:
A real GM begets a real coach. Who hired him?

Fair enough. Can’t argue with that.

Bob-Lillys-War · Sep 8, 2018

cowboy_ron said:
....The game of football in Jerry's mind has dropped another rung on the ladder.

Thats the attitude !

wssaustin · Sep 8, 2018

OmerV said:
I’m baffled by this post. Jerry sits in an air conditioned booth high above the field and watches the Cowboy games - what effort and focus is needed for that and what effect would that have on the game? Do you really think other owners and GMs wouldn’t attend a state championship game with their son or grandson Quarterbacking one of the teams the night before their team played. Do you think they never do anything socially the night before a game?

Not just Jerry, Stephen was actually more involved in that high school game. You are baffled, just like you'd think it is not a big deal for whole Jones' family went for a vacation in the first week of free agency opens up; no big deal, just like Romo went to Mexico before the play off.

This is a game of inches, it takes all for one team to win. I just don't see Jones' dedicate enough to this franchise, attention-to-detail-wise. Things only need to be done superficially, as long as money keeps pouring in. Few coach could be successful here

kevm3 · Sep 8, 2018

DandyDon52 said:
dont forget shwartz as DC, everyone gives pederson all the credit, but half should go to shwartz.
if garret and marinelli were HC and DC of Phil and lets throw in linehan as OC, would phil have beat Atl in this last game ?
Anyone think our coaches could have won that game with the Phil team ??

I dont think so, for 1 think jones boys would deman Carson play so that changes everything including carsons future lol.
but just with who played , I think marinelli gives up a td there at the end.
And I doubt the game would even be that close.

If Marinelli was DC, I think they still have a very formidable defense. Marinelli's produced top notch defenses before. With Garrett as HC, they maybe end up scoring 3 points that game and Foles looks like Cooper Rush did this preseason.

Billyd · Sep 8, 2018

I GUESS You have to give Philly credit for winning during the season with a 4th place schedule and blowing threw the weak Nfc to win the superbowl, but the real job began Thursday, and the job they did to shore up that team and make another run is doubtful..

I think Peterson did a good job last year with the Dcord and the Ocord Frank Reich (Which is no longer there) but the price paid with Howies wheeling comes back to roost in 2019, potentially this year..

If you think it was worth for them, and i would say it was, then okay..HOWEVER i dont anticipate more than a one Pump Chump, from Philly..Not because of Cowboys greatness, because of the razors edge the NFL is from year to year..Marginal..

Philly couldnt afford to lose on Thursday, That will be their issue for the next several games..Lets see how they handle it..Im thinking not!!

Billyd · Sep 8, 2018

kevm3 said:
If Marinelli was DC, I think they still have a very formidable defense. Marinelli's produced top notch defenses before. With Garrett as HC, they maybe end up scoring 3 points that game and Foles looks like Cooper Rush did this preseason.

ITS possible, it is also possible with that crappy secondary, apatchwork offensive line, Samuels being out and now Olson questionable that our D will consume their offense, providing the impetus of more posessions for the Cowboys to eat them up offensively..

I wonder how Garrett was Coach of the year two years ago..That must have been a fluke...Right?

DandyDon52 · Sep 8, 2018

kevm3 said:
If Marinelli was DC, I think they still have a very formidable defense. Marinelli's produced top notch defenses before. With Garrett as HC, they maybe end up scoring 3 points that game and Foles looks like Cooper Rush did this preseason.

marinelli gives up a lot of late game scores, also late in 1st half. Those have lost a lot of games for cowboys.

Marinelli has 2 flaws, he cant design good blitz's at all, and he goes to that zone prevent defense at the wrong times, like late in games.
Also the times he chooses to just rush 3 down lineman have been bad most of the time.

Billyd · Sep 8, 2018

DandyDon52 said:
marinelli gives up a lot of late game scores, also late in 1st half. Those have lost a lot of games for cowboys.

Marinelli has 2 flaws, he cant design good blitz's at all, and he goes to that zone prevent defense at the wrong times, like late in games.
Also the times he chooses to just rush 3 down lineman have been bad most of the time.

I disagree with this..Reason is that he doesnt blitz much, but when he does his players are effective..Their percentages are very high with safeties and corners..

What I would like to see is one of the lbrs let loose..Some indication Smith in that position..

Billyd · Sep 8, 2018

In response to the three man line, it has been effective at times, but im not a big fan of it either..of course if your team gets away with offensive holding all game long, maybe the scheme looks crappy..Lol..Richards wont play that 10 yard crap..i think that will be a thing that is less and less an option!

MD2020 · Sep 8, 2018

Billyd said:
I GUESS You have to give Philly credit for winning during the season with a 4th place schedule and blowing threw the weak Nfc to win the superbowl, but the real job began Thursday, and the job they did to shore up that team and make another run is doubtful..

I think Peterson did a good job last year with the Dcord and the Ocord Frank Reich (Which is no longer there) but the price paid with Howies wheeling comes back to roost in 2019, potentially this year..

If you think it was worth for them, and i would say it was, then okay..HOWEVER i dont anticipate more than a one Pump Chump, from Philly..Not because of Cowboys greatness, because of the razors edge the NFL is from year to year..Marginal..

Philly couldnt afford to lose on Thursday, That will be their issue for the next several games..Lets see how they handle it..Im thinking not!!

With all division teams playing each other twice and also playing the same NFC and AFC divisions, the "4th place schedule" amounts to 2 games out of 16. And one of those two games for the Eagles ended up against a 2017 playoff team.

And if you think that a playoff bracket with (a) former Super Bowl MVP, (b) coach of the year, (c) leagues best defense, and (d-e) the last two NFC Champs/league MVPs is "weak", I'm not sure what you think strong would be. Ain't no Bills or Titans in these playoff seedings.

Verdict · Sep 8, 2018

DandyDon52 said:
I think eagles should have kept Blount another year, and Ajai looks better and fired up this season, he was the one player who looked like
he was trying hard early on. He made some good runs at key times.

Ajayi was the difference in that game the entire game. Him and the DL.

Billyd · Sep 8, 2018

I like that, a fan that thinks that is really true..Example The Cowboys schedule this year is as strong as the Eagles is..We Know that the SOS Varies throughout the year, As a general rule the Cowboys SOS is stronger due to their usual tday and TV games getting moved and yanked for ratings..You have to measure the stupid overseas gamez, games with less than 6 days turnaround yada..

Having said that my main point was the shape of the Eagles now..I still Believe the Eaglez took advantage of their schedule last year, there is nothing wrong with that, but Pedersons so called magic ability is better tested this year dealing with adversity or not having his players..That is the true test of a head coach.. I know Wentz went down, but Foles also played well last year.. Now why isnt that the case now?

Billyd · Sep 8, 2018

Verdict said:
Ajayi was the difference in that game the entire game. Him and the DL.

I agree, he got some solid first downs, and the scores but he had like 65 to 75 yards rushing..He ran hard though..With him you just hope he can stay healthy doing it!

Billyd · Sep 8, 2018

MD2020 said:
With all division teams playing each other twice and also playing the same NFC and AFC divisions, the "4th place schedule" amounts to 2 games out of 16. And one of those two games for the Eagles ended up against a 2017 playoff team.

And if you think that a playoff bracket with (a) former Super Bowl MVP, (b) coach of the year, (c) leagues best defense, and (d-e) the last two NFC Champs/league MVPs is "weak", I'm not sure what you think strong would be. Ain't no Bills or Titans in these playoff seedings.

I dont care what they have done in the past. THE truth about last season was that D and it was in Philly, when Pederson walked in the door. I ADMIT that Dcord has them playing well!

Alexander · Sep 8, 2018

Dre11 said:
Anybody will tell you a rebuild is usually long and with the win now nature of the NFL , the coach that starts it usually don't stay around long enough to see it through, it's pretty much the new coach that benefits.

Rebuilds do not last almost a decade. Teams are constructed and deconstructed practically in four year increments.

Billyd · Sep 8, 2018

MD 2020 CHANGE your icon if you are going to defend the Eagles. AINT nobody falling for that!!,lol

Billyd · Sep 8, 2018

Alexander said:
Rebuilds do not last almost a decade. Teams are constructed and deconstructed practically in four year increments.

WITH the Cowboys even less than that..lolol

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