Observations from the big Win!

kramskoi · Sep 17, 2018

Aviano90 said:
Let's apply the same standard to Zeke...if you take away his two 19 yard runs he would have had 15 rushes for 40 yards, about 2.7 ypc.

Not sure why people want to exclude big plays.

Why? Because apart from the early strike to Austin...it was a short passing game. Even if you give him the big play, he still couldn't get close to 200 yards passing. If you don't think that is concerning then that's your business. Over a stretch of 15 games he has 10 where he couldn't deliver 200 yds passing. If you don't think that will be a problem when teams like Green Bay, New Orleans, Atlanta or others (with real offenses) come around then you are fooling yourself.

uvaballa · Sep 17, 2018

jrumann59 said:
or the sideline routes unless they were planned throw aways that were close enough that maybe...

Gallup probably should have caught that one on the sideline.

Colombiacowboy · Sep 17, 2018

Cmac said:
Dak's accuracy continues to be a concern.

Yep. The game should have been 28-0 at half. You just can't miss wide open receivers in the end zone.

gimmesix · Sep 17, 2018

Irvin88_4life said:
Other than the miss with Rico in the endzone Dak had some really good accuracy. He was pinpoint on most of his throws.

It was clear to me on the miss to Rico that Prescott released the ball before the linebacker fell down, so he was trying to make sure he threw it long to give only Rico a shot at catching it. Of course, he was too cautious with it and gave Gathers no chance. But I believe it looked worse because the linebacker unexpectedly fell down. It was an anticipation throw that I'm sure he'd love to have back knowing what he does now because it would be an easy pitch and catch.

Great job by Rico using leverage to get that open, though.

Aviano90 · Sep 17, 2018

kramskoi said:
Why? Because apart from the early strike to Austin...it was a short passing game. Even if you give him the big play, he still couldn't get close to 200 yards passing. If you don't think that is concerning then that's your business. Over a stretch of 15 games he has 10 where he couldn't deliver 200 yds passing. If you don't think that will be a problem when teams like Green Bay, New Orleans, Atlanta or others (with real offenses) come around then you are fooling yourself.

Of course it will be a problem. That's why I predicted 8-8. But this fascination with QB stats is funny. The team was in total control of that game last night from start to finish and the big topic is Dak's yards. He played well. He made plays. He even threw deep several times. He used his legs to move the chains and extend drives. I think he had a 3rd and long strike called back that would have extended another drive. But, but, but he needs 200 yards.

Carter · Sep 17, 2018

silvrNblue said:
yeah, your right, lets not get all bajiggity about the fact he didn't HAVE to throw the ball 800 times to please all the "we gota have 300+ yd passing games, or, or we suck" crowd....

There will be times when he Needs to and so far he cant do it...not in the last 10 games in a row.

Irvin88_4life · Sep 17, 2018

sbark said:
Getting set solidly with his feet under gives dak a better delivery all around

Oh I agree. He can make every throw you need but he needs to set his feet and deliver the pass. He did that through out the game last night and at times he didn't

Irvin88_4life · Sep 17, 2018

gimmesix said:
It was clear to me on the miss to Rico that Prescott released the ball before the linebacker fell down, so he was trying to make sure he threw it long to give only Rico a shot at catching it. Of course, he was too cautious with it and gave Gathers no chance. But I believe it looked worse because the linebacker unexpectedly fell down. It was an anticipation throw that I'm sure he'd love to have back knowing what he does now because it would be an easy pitch and catch.

Great job by Rico using leverage to get that open, though.

Great point

silvrNblue · Sep 17, 2018

Carter said:
There will be times when he Needs to and so far he cant do it...not in the last 10 games in a row.

Tell you what, why don't YOU and all your hate fans suit it up, and go play with a D lineman in your face or up your arse on just about 3 out of 4 plays, let's see if YOU pro's can git it done with abhorrent blocking and a blind side Lb coming down on you...my bet, you wouldn't be so smug about it on Monday...

Reid1boys · Sep 17, 2018

uvaballa said:
Gallup probably should have caught that one on the sideline.

Even if he caught it, he was out of bounds.

Haimerej · Sep 17, 2018

DakPresgoat said:
That was moreso a bad decision, rather than inaccurate. The ball was well thrown actually, just a poor decision.

I know that doesn’t make it a good play, obviously. But just saying.

I thought it was too far inside. Beasley didn't really have a shot.

Wood · Sep 17, 2018

1972COWBOY said:
We need to get a good backup QB. I think Dak is mainly top notch when he is running the ball and risks injury. It is what it is and its a chance that needs to be taken if thats the type of QB he is but we need a plan B in case he gets hurt.

Dak made some crucial first down runs.

I agree. If this who Dak is they will need solid back-up QB. Jones won't be happy about it because they probably felt they could get away from getting decent back-up due to Dak young age. But that style of play will absolutely put him at higher risk for injury. I do think Dak needs to stop taking on tacklers and just find spot to do down once contact is initiated.

xwalker · Sep 17, 2018

DanA said:
That's not really how the game played out though.

IMO we felt in control the whole game and were in "risk-free football" mode fairly early on. When we needed it, Dak played a few option reads and we easily moved the ball.

I didn't see a need for us to test Apple and Jenkins too much. They're a good CB pair IMO.

Zero INTs.

Cmac · Sep 17, 2018

Ken said:
No, it doesn't.

Think how about the Dak & dunk version....160 yds passing tells me he ain't looking downfield too much. See Patrick Mahomes (2nd year). Short passing game without a TE. Can we call him a game manager now?

Colombiacowboy · Sep 17, 2018

xwalker said:
Zero INTs.

But there were two INTs that were dropped by the Giants D.

AdamJT13 · Sep 17, 2018

Carter said:
There will be times when he Needs to and so far he cant do it...not in the last 10 games in a row.

He had 332 yards (along with three TDs and a 137.1 passer rating) in Week 14 last year, the last time we faced the Giants.

Clove · Sep 17, 2018

Dak obviously has an NFL arm to make all the throws but his head is the problem. He's frightful by nature to make mistakes. Something the coaches have GOT TO GET OUT OF HIS HEAD. Trust yourself and trust in QBing and let it fly.

JustChip · Sep 17, 2018

Reid1boys said:
Take away the long pass to tayvon, and dak had a whopping 96 yards..... get the hell out of here about his accuracy. If dak does not run, he sucks. 160 ish stinking yards.... are you kidding me? Our defense is legit...wait till Irving returns, and hopefully Gregory in there...... but unfortunately unless our defense is like the 85 bears or the 2000 ravens, we are in trouble.

Taking out the long play is cherry-picking a stat to try to prove a point. Every QB's stats from yesterday will include plays that, if you eliminated those plays, grossly changes their stats.

Out of curiosity, would you rather have Dak or Andrew Luck?

Reid1boys · Sep 17, 2018

JustChip said:
Taking out the long play is cherry-picking a stat to try to prove a point. Every QB's stats from yesterday will include plays that, if you eliminated those plays, grossly changes their stats.

Out of curiosity, would you rather have Dak or Andrew Luck?

Is that a serious question? I didnt say remove PLAYS from Daks day, im talking about 1 play.... but leavig that play in Daks day, he still had a whopping 160 yards. Look, all you Dak apologists can say what you want..... can you, with a straight face,say that a QB that consistently throws for below 200 yards can win consistently in the NFL? If you say yes, show me some examples of CURRENT QBs that have been doing so.

lockster · Sep 17, 2018

Slow decision making slow release, that's what Dak is really good at.

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