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RustyBourneHorse · Oct 8, 2018

ClintDagger said:
I’ve seen Eli put his team on his back and win games without any running game, OL, or defense. Dak flat out can’t do that. Eli is clearly better than Dak even so far this year. Look at this year’s common games at CAR and at HOU. Dak put up 24 points and Eli put up 58. No comparison. The difference in quality of receivers doesn’t account for the disparity.

Fair point.

HonoluluCowboy · Oct 8, 2018

Furboy said:
Fair enough, but I still don't want Garrett touching a QB like Herbert or Tua. I want a new coach before we get a new QB. That's my point, and the decision not to go for it on 4th and 1 was a prime example of this. Now, as for who's currently worse than Dak, possibly the 49ers chap, I reckon the Nate chap from the Bills would be below him. So, there's 2 there. Eli is CURRENTLY worse, imo.

Eli may be currently worse . But lets not forget he has won 2 SB's .....

nate dizzle · Oct 8, 2018

So far we've been able to argue that he may or may not be as good, but not better, as some of the rookies starting and they offer more upside, and that he's maybe on par with Winston, Carr, Mariota, and Bortles. That places him right around 8th worst QB but certainly no better than that and interchangeable with those below him. I am still awaiting input from his supporters to see where he falls among starters in their minds.

Dallasfann · Oct 8, 2018

I'd take Winston, Carr, Mariota and Bortles throwing left handed over Dak.

nate dizzle · Oct 8, 2018

Dallasfann said:
I'd take Winston, Carr, Mariota and Bortles throwing left handed over Dak.

Ha! That's a little harsh, but funny.

RustyBourneHorse · Oct 8, 2018

HonoluluCowboy said:
Eli may be currently worse . But lets not forget he has won 2 SB's .....

Hence currently

nate dizzle · Oct 8, 2018

John813 said:
Bradford, Keenum, Bortles and Winston.

If Winston was mature, then no, but that's never going to happen.

Maybe Eli too.

Keenum really looks terrible in that system in Denver. Maybe it's a learning curve with adjusting to a new system.

Bradford really is a sad story, dude had tons of talent and potential but he was just brittle.

nate dizzle · Oct 8, 2018

ClintDagger said:
I’ve seen Eli put his team on his back and win games without any running game, OL, or defense. Dak flat out can’t do that. Eli is clearly better than Dak even so far this year. Look at this year’s common games at CAR and at HOU. Dak put up 24 points and Eli put up 58. No comparison. The difference in quality of receivers doesn’t account for the disparity.

Yeah man, I've seen Eli do that too, it was almost like watching Romo for 85% of his career.

LocimusPrime · Oct 8, 2018

Does it have to be this year, or any year ?

LocimusPrime · Oct 8, 2018

K k let me play

2004 Quincy Carter when he played for the Jets
:dance:

nate dizzle · Oct 8, 2018

LocimusPrime said:
Does it have to be this year, or any year ?

Asking who is currently starting that you feel he is better than. ie who are the starting quarterbacks that are worse than Dak.

BlindFaith · Oct 8, 2018

nate dizzle said:
So after 2 pages, here's where we're at:

Dak is "as good or better" than maybe 6 other QB's in the league. Raise your hand if you think that's worth re-signing him when his contract is up.

For what Dak is getting paid, he's the best "value" at QB, but agree that he's playing like a bottom 5 guy right now.

And his arrow is pointing down.

I don't know if it's that he doesn't trust his wrs, if they are asking him to do too much at the line, if he's not reading the defense or if he just really lacks that QB intuition/anticipation.

Probably a combination of all of the above.

We can just hope for a top 5 pick and grab the best QB on the board.

Cannibal_Cowboy · Oct 8, 2018

Take out Osweiler because of his too few attempts and Dak is ranked 27th in passer rating. That's exactly where he should be ranked, he is what he is.

LocimusPrime · Oct 8, 2018

nate dizzle said:
Asking who is currently starting that you feel he is better than. ie who are the starting quarterbacks that are worse than Dak.

I know...was just trying to derail the thread by allowing any qb from any time period.
:thumbup:

Cannibal_Cowboy · Oct 8, 2018

Dunks3001 said:
Lets take Rookies and backup's out of it.

QBs that are worse than Dak

Hmm.. It's hard for me to pinpoint any QB that we can safely say is worse than Dak right now. And they key word to that sentence is "right now". I don't know if it's the QB, the coaches, or the WR/TEs (maybe it's all three) but Dak and the offence is struggling so badly this year. Off the top of my head I would say Manning, Winston, Bortles, and Trubisky are all just as bad as Dak. But they are not worse.

Trubisky is #9 in passer rating. He has a 101.6 rating, 8-3 TD to int ratio and completed 70% of his passes. Did you honestly even know that when you put his name in there? :huh:

TheHerd · Oct 8, 2018

Bortles is worse. That's all I got.

And I love Dak. But we have to be honest. He's playing like a bad high school QB since the Atlanta game.

Floatyworm · Oct 8, 2018

cowboyec said:
CATCH
THE
DAMN
BALL

Throw a damn Spiral!!!!! :banghead:

It's not hard

zrinkill · Oct 8, 2018

What a stupid thread

reddyuta · Oct 8, 2018

Bottles is way better than Dak, let's see on Sunday.

nate dizzle · Oct 8, 2018

reddyuta said:
Bottles is way better than Dak, let's see on Sunday.

That game is going to suuuuuck for offense. 13-9 is a good possibility.

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