Jerry Jones: Dak Prescott Is More Than a 'Bus Driver' in Cowboys' Offense; He's a weapon

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I am just curious. I don't need the exact number, but where is Dak as a QB in your eyes? Top 5? Top 10? Top 15?
Hard question to answer because i haven't analyzed all of the qbs.

However...guys like Brees, Rivers, Brady, Rodgers and Ryan are all better right now. I say that because of their NFL experience is off the charts. They read and dissect defense at an incredible rate. Young qbs take time to get to that. None that were draftedrafted with Dak or after Dak have attained that level of IQ.

Then there is a guy like Mahomes who i have not seen a ton of but I am concerned about his ability to read defenses and go through his progressions. Right now, I am leaning toward amazing talent but needs to grow as a qb. Is a product of the weapons at his disposal right now. The NFL is already starting to adjust to him and he is mostly only making plays when the play breaks down out side of the pocket.

I have already stated I like Dak more than Goff and Wentz. I think Goff is better than Wentz.

So I would probably put Dak in the top 10 right now but it is hard to justify because he just has nothing to work with. Obviously his numbers don't support that ranking but there is a lot to the numbers besides just pure qb play.
 

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Jerry said more or less the same about Quincy.

Raved about Weeden's beautiful passing.

Make of that what you will.

Quincy Carter was not a bad player. Yes, he had issues but he proved to could play.
 

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Hard question to answer because i haven't analyzed all of the qbs.

However...guys like Brees, Rivers, Brady, Rodgers and Ryan are all better right now. I say that because of their NFL experience is off the charts. They read and dissect defense at an incredible rate. Young qbs take time to get to that. None that were draftedrafted with Dak or after Dak have attained that level of IQ.

Then there is a guy like Mahomes who i have not seen a ton of but I am concerned about his ability to read defenses and go through his progressions. Right now, I am leaning toward amazing talent but needs to grow as a qb. Is a product of the weapons at his disposal right now. The NFL is already starting to adjust to him and he is mostly only making plays when the play breaks down out side of the pocket.

I have already stated I like Dak more than Goff and Wentz. I think Goff is better than Wentz.

So I would probably put Dak in the top 10 right now but it is hard to justify because he just has nothing to work with. Obviously his numbers don't support that ranking but there is a lot to the numbers besides just pure qb play.

Top 10 QBs typically make players around them better. If your QB needs better players then he's probably not a great QB.

Dak is a quintessential bus driver. He's a guy that needs better WRs, a good OL and quality coaching to perform.
 

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I don't give a #$%^ about Jerry the business man. That means nothing to me. Or the value of the Cowboys as a franchise according to Forbes or anybody else.

I'm interested in football. I'm interested in winning. And reading Jerry's comments about Dak and Garrett tells me this team will win nothing of consequence in the foreseeable future.
I am surprised you are not used to it by now. Been going on for 20 years.
 

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Got proof of all these predictions?

And not surprisingly, you are wrong about what I thought of most of your examples.

I did think Kelly would be better than he turned out to be. I wasn't a big RG3 guy but I think injuries really derailed him.
They are all on this site...are you going to make me slog through dozens and dozens of pages just to prove this? If there was a search function it would be great.

I assure you i nailed them perfectly.
 

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They are all on this site...are you going to make me slog through dozens and dozens of pages just to prove this? If there was a search function it would be great.

I assure you i nailed them perfectly.

Well since you assured me.............
 

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Top 10 QBs typically make players around them better. If your QB needs better players then he's probably not a great QB.

Dak is a quintessential bus driver. He's a guy that needs better WRs, a good OL and quality coaching to perform.
Ever hear the saying..."Can't make chicken salad out of chicken ****"?

That applies to this situation.
 

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KHADRICE ROLLINS
Sports Illustrated
Friday October 19th, 2018

Despite all the criticisms that have been tossed in the direction of quarterback Dak Prescott, Cowboys owner Jerry Jones said, "Anything we need to see and need to know, I see with him" and called Prescott the "long-term" option for Dallas in an interview with Jarrett Bell of USA Today.


"We know the problem with saying that about any player, but I don’t mind saying it," Jones told USA Today. "I said it about [Troy] Aikman. I said it about Tony [Romo]. When you get one of those top ones, you can basically be that definitive."

Prescott and the Cowboys are coming off arguably their best performance in two seasons with a 40-7 victory over the Jaguars. Against one of the top defenses in the league, Prescott posted a season-high three touchdowns, with two coming through the air and one on the ground.

Although Jones says he has faith in Prescott to lead the Cowboys' offense, many people still only see the 2016 Offensive Rookie of the Year as a cog in a system designed for running back Ezekiel Elliott.

"He’s not a 'bus driver,'" Jones told USA Today. "He's a weapon. And as mobility diminishes [on a given play], then you'll pick up where he is with that great decision-making, with the mind he's got."

Jones added he takes offense when people discredit Prescott's accuracy as a passer noting, "He can get the ball within the circumference of where receivers can catch it. They need to help."

http://amp.si.com/nfl/2018/10/19/je...term-option-cowboys?__twitter_impression=true

What makes Dak a bad QB is not what he does, it is what he does not. I don't think his accuracy issues make him a bad QB. I don't think his deep ball makes him a bad QB ( it is actually pretty good). It is his inability to makes plays through the air, cant pass guys open and does not anticipate well. His presence in the pocket has been generally bad (last week was his lone exception for the year). He honestly does not know where to go with the ball based on the defense he is facing.
 

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Top 10 QBs typically make players around them better. If your QB needs better players then he's probably not a great QB.

Dak is a quintessential bus driver. He's a guy that needs better WRs, a good OL and quality coaching to perform.
THIS IS RIGHT ON
 

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Actually that saying applies to Dak. You will never make a Franchise QB out of him, because he is not one!
The FO might make him one anyway. If he does continue to get better I want to know if you will come back and eat crow?
 

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Because many take the position that a QB who needs so much help from his weapons and OL and coaches likely isn't the type of QB that's going to carry a franchise to a big run. Sure, there are some one off examples like Flacco and the Ravens, but they've never really sniffed greatness since.

So is that really the best plan here? Go with Dak (assuming what we see is what we get going forward) and hope we get essentially lucky and make a run like Baltimore did?
"So much help" Lol, no man. Just a little more, some solid weapons. Our WR's are average. The TE's are nothing special. Yeah, get some help. The idea that every QB should make players around them better is widely exaggerated. Good luck landing a QB That "carries the team."
Know what would be awesome? Having a couple HOFers like Witten and TO in their prime.
I'm also all for getting a better QB. I'll take a better player at any position. But that's not reality.
 

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The Cowboys want to use Dak Prescott in the running game but some defenses just don’t allow it on zone reads, however, coordinator Scott Linehan and Prescott agree that the quarterback’s running is more important to the offense this year than in the past, considering the absences of Dez Bryant and Jason Witten in the passing game. “I would say so,” Prescott said. “It’s an element we need to explore more. In past years, you had different things that were go-tos that aren’t go-tos now. So maybe using the run game and using my feet can serve that benefit to us.”

Source - Todd Archer on :espn::espn:
 

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I am just curious. I don't need the exact number, but where is Dak as a QB in your eyes? Top 5? Top 10? Top 15?
Top 10-15 at this point. Leaning more to 15. But if the team as a unit plays like they did vs. Jacksonville, then closer to 10.

What matters is having balance, not just a Tom Brady.
 
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I caught a snippet on a NFL show yesterday and they were talking about Rockport's favorite team, the Eagles. The Eagles have both their OTs battling injuries, their WRs have been struggling at times, and they lost their starting TB. And what the one analyst said is that it will be easier for the Eagles to overcome those issues because they have a QB who can overcome issues like that.

It was a stark contrast to the argument some have made in defense of Dak............. that how can we blame Dak when he has issues around him?

I wish we had a QB that could help mitigate our issues. Maybe Dak eventually develops into that guy? Unlikely, but possible.
Not with this coaching staff
 

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Top 10-15 at this point. Leaning more to 15. But if the team as a unit plays like they did vs. Jacksonville, then closer to 10.

What matters is having balance, not just a Tom Brady.

I think in passing effectiveness Dak is probably 15-20. He is only that high because he rarely throws ints. If he is running well, and defenses can't stop the read option then he moves up to 10 in effectiveness. Teams will start to take that away as well as they have taken away the other things he likes which has led to his plummett from 2016.
 
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