Is Dak unpopular because it is now a passing league?

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The majority of casual football fans dont understand football, or the QB position. Most morons think you can just go out and find Tom Brady. OR that Tom Brady does it all on his own. Or they think that Brady doesnt throw picks or overthrow receivers.

Others actually think that rookie QB's get worse as they gain more experience.
Some rookie QBs do Roy, Rick Mirer looked like a franchise qb in the making his first year then became the draft bust we all know him as after that. Right now Derek Carr mentally has never recovered from his injury that derailed his 2016 season mentally. He's regressing and acting like a petulant child at times while trying to project himself as Dudley Do Right.

Dak's not a guy who can carry a team but he can make plays. We just need him to make plays in between the plays he does head scratching things.
 

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Just watch. If Dak leads the team to a victory against the Saints next Thursday night, more excuses will come out against him.
That wont happen because the Saints can shut down the run! And this is exactly why Dak is not very good. You have to have a QB that at bare minimum able to threaten another team when the other team focuses on shutting down the run.
 

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There seems to be people on cz who are of the opinion that if someone criticises Daks play they are "haters". I cannot for the life of me understand this mentality. It is perfectly possible to have an opinion on a mans play without "hating" him, i wonder if this "hater" term is there to deflect reasonable criticism of the player. Dak is from what i have seen a very decent bloke and i'm sure if i met him in the pub i would enjoy a pint with him.
As the QB of the Cowboys however he is a limited option. His general QB play against the Commanders was average, the problems with accuracy still plague him and he is still having the pocket awareness problems that have dogged him for some time now.
Dak in this team will win games, we all know that. The question however has not changed, will the Cowboys win a championship with Dak?
My heart says yes but my eyes and head say no.
A new coaching staff may help but it looks like garrett will stay on with every win.
I fear we will be having the same conversation this time next year.
Exactly my feelings about Dak too! Im sure he is a great guy but his talent ability is limited and I dont see this team winning anything with him.
 

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We simply arent good enough. Brees and the Saints are an entirely new level of football team. Brees wins his second SB this year.
I think Brees is in line to win another also! I think if Dallas had a better pure passing QB it would actually open up the running game for Zeke even more along with taking pressure off of everyone to be so perfect. This whole team is fighting their tails off just to play close games. You have to be able to take care of the lesser teams without running your team into the ground. Even if Dallas were to win enough games to make the playoffs Zeke is going to worn out.
 

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He's got one and half years to win you over. I'd cut him after the season. I'd cut him now if we didn't trade away the first round pick. Let's win as many games as we can to lower the draft pick and then move on in search of a QB with talent in the offseason. Maybe stash some drugs in his locker and try to frame him on a felony.
I would like to cut him too but this team needs to use Dak as a stepping stone until they can find the future QB! We all know a good QB is hard to find so the sooner they get started the better. This team is loaded on defense and offense it just needs a QB that gets rid of the ball quicker and can make all the throws. I feel like the Cowboys are carrying Dak and that he is more the problem than the solution. This offense is set up to look like the Saints but Dak makes them look like the Bills!
 

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It’s now a passing league, high flying league. It’s not “sexy” to run the ball. Smash mouth football is dying and the NFL set-up the game with new rules for Fantasy Footballers / Fan Duelers to make it exciting to throw for 500 yards a game and end up with a final score of 54-51.

The new generation of football fans don’t understand the advantage of a power run offense and controlling the clock. So, Dak isn’t popular because he’s not a gunslinger. It doesn’t matter if you win or lose, fans these days just want to see long bomb throws all day and don’t care if they go 0-16 while doing it.
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Just imagine how powerful this running game would be if Dallas had a QB that would back the defense up to defend the pass! Instead every Cowboys player is working overtime against crappy teams just to get a win! Maybe if Dallas had a decent QB it would take some of the pressure off of everyone so that at the end of the season the team would be a little bit fresher for a playoff run.
 

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Remember when Romo was unpopular because “he threw too many interceptions” and he “wasn’t clutch”? Yeah.

Many of our fans are just idiots.
I know! Look at all the idiots that think Dak is the answer.
 

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It's all moot now.
I like Dak, and believe he'll be serviceable in the CORRECT system. Having said that, if we had the bullets I'd get a blue chipper and let Dak sink or swim.
Now, we have a year to kill.
Get a OC and a QB coach and give the kid a chance.
I saw Dak sitting on the bench and thought why are the letting some coaches kid sit with the team? Oh wait, that's Kellen :facepalm:
 

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I could see how someone can make the statement that my response was long for a simple "If we could replace Romo for Dak I’d do it in a heartbeat.", but despite it's simplicity, there is a lot there that I addressed.

First, I discussed how so many wish said former player/coach still was on the team.
  • So I pointed out how silly and pointless your post was to begin with.
Second, I pointed out how every player has strengths and weaknesses.
  • While not directly mentioned in the particular post I quoted, I think it is safe to say that you do not believe, or at least refuse to admit, that Dak has any strengths whatsoever.
  • Then I went to point out how that if one has just a hint of perspective, one would realize that all players make good plays and all players make bad plays ala Jeff Heath.
Lastly, despite the pointless statement you made, I wanted to show that overall, it was not stupid conclusion.
  • I think anyone who would look at it objectively would have Tony Romo starting over Dak Prescott right now, obviously if Tony could stay healthy.
  • But I do not agree with your, what is IMO, agenda driven reasoning, and that the same conclusion could be made with very different reasoning behind it.
I apologize for not addressing every little post you make on this forum, as I do not have the time or patience for it, but I do read quite a lot throughout the day. So to act like I made anything up and that I addressed something that you have not made perfectly clear is forgetful at best, and flat out deceitful at worst.

If you prefer for the people you quote to not remember or address anything that you have stated or made perfectly clear by your many posts, then I would suggest that you no longer quote my entries.

Thanks.

Lool...off the rails.
 

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Dak isn't popular because he has regressed up until the past few games, has issues with phantom pressure, and makes some bad decisions with the football.

That being said, he's still learning and we'll see if he can get better.

He needs things to be perfect to succeed.

Basically he cannot carry a team.
 

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It’s now a passing league, high flying league. It’s not “sexy” to run the ball. Smash mouth football is dying and the NFL set-up the game with new rules for Fantasy Footballers / Fan Duelers to make it exciting to throw for 500 yards a game and end up with a final score of 54-51.

The new generation of football fans don’t understand the advantage of a power run offense and controlling the clock. So, Dak isn’t popular because he’s not a gunslinger. It doesn’t matter if you win or lose, fans these days just want to see long bomb throws all day and don’t care if they go 0-16 while doing it.
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Just my thought but fans invested many years of emotion in Romo. He was an exciting player to watch and they always believed he would deliver more than he did or more than his teams did. Many wanted to see him play with Zeke but Dak replaced him before it happened. I think those fans are bitter at the way it happened. Personally, I think it was time.

One of the biggest dis-services we did as a team when Romo was the QB was NOT drafting/signing a legit QB behind him. So every year when he inevitably got injured we bent over and kissed our season good bye. In fact, Romo bent over and kissed his season good bye as well and often came back from injury too soon as the white knight saviour. Dak has become the dark knight and will never be Romo. In some ways, that's a really good thing unless you invested 9 years of hope in Romo OR enjoyed the agony of the most inopportune turn overs. Some fans like pain
 

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Dak is a parasite who feeds off of Zeke,Cooper,Offline etc etc..and instead of supporting the team feeds off of it to keep his job!
His talent is Grade D at best and to cover this fact he goes all out with Great Public relations but on the field is a major DUD!
These years will go down in Cowboy history as the "Dak-Dead" seasons....
 

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People just take for granted how difficult it is to acquire a a franchise QB, much less a great or elite QB, some franchises have been looking for decades. People say, well we could just move up in the draft, like it's a simple proposition. A lot of those teams at tops of drafts are QB needy themselves and the cost is pretty high to pry those picks away not to mention competition from other teams looking to do the same thing. It's always easy after the a QB has played a couple years to say if it was worth it, but there are a lot more busts than homeruns and there's always the good, but are they good enough types? Few QBs enter the league and are capable of leading a team from day 1, so it's will take a couple years while they develop, if they develop. It helps the process if you have a great system, players and coaches that know how to develop them, don't know if we have enough of that in place. The capital used to make those moves, makes it a little harder to fill needs in other positions, so you have to hit with that pick or the consequences put the organization back even further.

Teams don't trade away great franchise QBs and it's very rare to have one hit FA and when they do, they are very pricey, so that's not a good option. I think with a better OC, a more innovative play designer, play caller, better teachers Dak could develop into a good QB, just not an elite one. I would like to upgrade the QB position, but right now there aren't many good options. In the meantime, continue to build a better team, better coaching around him, so when/if the opportunity to upgrade arises, a new QB would be put into the best position possible to succeed.
 

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To the casual football fan you are correct. But to the real football fan he is unpopular because he just hasn’t shown he is elite. To me it’s because he consistently throws bad passes off of that stupid jump pass he does off one foot about 5-times a game. Yes it works once a game but he has relied on it way to much. Way too much!

But he is our QB and he is our only option, so I am forced to root for the guy!
 

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It’s now a passing league, high flying league. It’s not “sexy” to run the ball. Smash mouth football is dying and the NFL set-up the game with new rules for Fantasy Footballers / Fan Duelers to make it exciting to throw for 500 yards a game and end up with a final score of 54-51.

The new generation of football fans don’t understand the advantage of a power run offense and controlling the clock. So, Dak isn’t popular because he’s not a gunslinger. It doesn’t matter if you win or lose, fans these days just want to see long bomb throws all day and don’t care if they go 0-16 while doing it.
:huh::huh::huh::huh::huh::huh::huh: :huh:

Good thread but waaaayyyy too much is made of how much the league is changing. It certainly is based on the infusion of college offense principles, rules etc however less than a handful of teams of possess perfect storm of coaching/personnel to really showcase video game like numbers. Chances are saints, chiefs, rams won't all make their conference championship games. Football is still football.
 

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I don't think it's a matter of popularity. He's just not the kind of pocket passing QB that is generally needed to win in the NFL. His mechanics, footwork, and accuracy are mediocre. His pocket presence, movement in the pocket, and ability to see the open receiver quick enough and deliver it to him is lacking. His windup throw takes too long. He barely, if ever, throws it to the middle of the field. He plays hard and has intangibles and he'll wow you with that one amazing play or two, but that's just not going to win it for you consistently in this league. And winning just gets harder in the playoffs.
 
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