What did everyone think about Seattle blatantly breaking the rules to block Minnesota’s FG on Monday

Captain43Crash · Dec 11, 2018

I didn’t like it. Using your teammate as leverage is against the rules. You could tell that play was practiced. The timing was perfect as Wagner put his hands on both of his teammates shoulders at the exact same time, and then pushed off( leverage ). I think on a play like this the League Office should fine Seattle’s owner for conduct detrimental to the league. If owners are fined heavily after their teams blatantly break the rules, then maybe less teams would try cheap tactics like this. NE has been doing crap like this for years. They will get away with it, then the league will quietly make a rule against it( jumping the center, having an ineligible slot receiver, while the tackle is eligible on the opposite side of the field, NE won a playoff game vs the Ravens a couple of years ago doing this. The play was made illegal after that season)
What if we are in the playoffs vs Seattle and they block our 20 yard FG to win the game by using this bush league play.

Lastly, this play should be reviewable. It is hard for the ref to see everything that is going on in the middle of the line during a FG attempt. It would be ashame for any team to lose a game in this manner, especially our team.
Agree or disagree?

lkelly · Dec 11, 2018

What’s bewildering is that the flag was thrown and then picked up. If I were Zimmer I would have been tossed.

nalam · Dec 11, 2018

Captain43Crash said:
I didn’t like it. Using your teammate as leverage is against the rules. You could tell that play was practiced. .... NE has been doing crap like this for years. They will get away with it, then the league will quietly make a rule against....
Agree or disagree?

Agreed, teams (so called smart - bordering cheaters) like NE, Seahaeks do this kind of things all the time andget away with it. The skins did something similar in our first game ,(on the game tying FG) , make it reviewable is a good suggestion but the purists may not like it

America's Cowboy · Dec 11, 2018

Seattle is coached to break the rules. They all look for any way to get away with breaking them. The officials and the NFL are responsible once again for the blatant favoritism that keeps happening for Seattle.

RoyTheHammer · Dec 11, 2018

I'm more ok with people blatently breaking the rules to block FGs than I am with posters blatently using bigger font than everyone else for their thread titles

Bleedblue1111 · Dec 11, 2018

They simply had to make the call. Obviously, one ref seen it because the flag was thrown, then let the others convince him otherwise. Makes one wonder how the game would have turned out, had Minnesota been given the penalty of half the distance to the goal, and a new set of downs.

big dog cowboy · Dec 11, 2018

Welcome to 2018 NFL officiating.

erod · Dec 11, 2018

My first thought is, what a stupid rule.

Silver Surfer · Dec 11, 2018

Skip fining the owner. They should go after Carroll..... hard. He's the worst kind. He looks nice, acts nice, says the right things and then cheats his AZZ off. I despise guys like that.

https://www.si.com/si-wire/2014/06/08/pete-carroll-usc-sanctions-left-departure

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexre...dered-the-nfls-foremost-cheater/#5d3a2313579f

America's Cowboy · Dec 12, 2018

Silver Surfer said:
Skip fining the owner. They should go after Carroll..... hard. He's the worst kind. He looks nice, acts nice, says the right things and then cheats his AZZ off. I despise guys like that.

https://www.si.com/si-wire/2014/06/08/pete-carroll-usc-sanctions-left-departure

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexre...dered-the-nfls-foremost-cheater/#5d3a2313579f

Ditto. Carroll is a weasel.

dwreck27 · Dec 12, 2018

15 yard penalty there gives them another shot to get back In that game

Worst call I think I’ve seen being that it was some how waved off... complain about the “no clear possession” under a big pile of players but him launching off his players was hella obvious

Runwildboys · Dec 12, 2018

RoyTheHammer said:
I'm more ok with people blatently breaking the rules to block FGs than I am with posters blatently using bigger font than everyone else for their thread titles

Just read it from farther away. :laugh:

Runwildboys · Dec 12, 2018

erod said:
My first thought is, what a stupid rule.

Agreed. You should be allowed to step on your teammates' backs if you want to....but since it is a rule, it's clearly an unfair advantage to break the rule and get away with it.

JoeKing · Dec 12, 2018

If you can get away with it then why not? It's the ref's fault for allowing it to happen so blame them, not Bobby Wagnor.

Nightman · Dec 12, 2018

Captain43Crash said:
I didn’t like it. Using your teammate as leverage is against the rules. You could tell that play was practiced. The timing was perfect as Wagner put his hands on both of his teammates shoulders at the exact same time, and then pushed off( leverage ). I think on a play like this the League Office should fine Seattle’s owner for conduct detrimental to the league. If owners are fined heavily after their teams blatantly break the rules, then maybe less teams would try cheap tactics like this. NE has been doing crap like this for years. They will get away with it, then the league will quietly make a rule against it( jumping the center, having an ineligible slot receiver, while the tackle is eligible on the opposite side of the field, NE won a playoff game vs the Ravens a couple of years ago doing this. The play was made illegal after that season)
What if we are in the playoffs vs Seattle and they block our 20 yard FG to win the game by using this bush league play.

Lastly, this play should be reviewable. It is hard for the ref to see everything that is going on in the middle of the line during a FG attempt. It would be ashame for any team to lose a game in this manner, especially our team.
Agree or disagree?

You got the rule wrong

You can't line up over the center
You can't get a running start for a leap
You can't use Center as leverage...... but you can use teammate

That is why it was picked up.....he wasn't running and he didn't push off or lineup over the center

hairic · Dec 12, 2018

erod said:
My first thought is, what a stupid rule.

Has to be done, otherwise you'd start seeing gymnastic routines to block kicks. Or midget throwing.

Nightman said:
You got the rule wrong

You can't line up over the center
You can't get a running start for a leap
You can't use Center as leverage...... but you can use teammate

That is why it was picked up.....he wasn't running and he didn't push off or lineup over the center

Rule change for 2018 includes teammates.

Nightman · Dec 12, 2018

hairic said:
Has to be done, otherwise you'd start seeing gymnastic routines to block kicks. Or midget throwing.

Rule change for 2018 includes teammates.

Either way he only grazed his teammate but if the rule says you can't touch them then they got it wrong

I just don't see some big conspiracy

Cattle_Rancher · Dec 12, 2018

If you ain’t cheating you ain’t trying rules were made to be broken

Cmac · Dec 12, 2018

It shows the NFL Refs have been lousy all year. We've benefited of late with some of the strange calls. Keeping it 100.

DogFace · Dec 12, 2018

They mangage to see our long snapper move his fingers, but not this play.

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