Jerry's worst nightmare

DenCWBY · Dec 31, 2018

DB_Cooper said:
Jerry’s biggest nightmare is letting go of Garrett and then seeing Garrett win a Super Bowl with another team. Seriously I think that is what keeps Garrett here. If that happened everyone would blame our lack of success 100% on Jerry.

I think the only hiring of JG with another team would be at a QB coach capacity.

RD21 · Dec 31, 2018

CouchCoach said:
He should have approached it that way with Jimmy Johnson as he went against the grain hiring a college guy back then. He made the perfect hire as the GM but that has never filled that hole in him.

If you've seen the SEC special "Before They Were Cowboys", it is very revealing about what Booger really wanted to do but the money wasn't in it back then. He and Johnson were both influenced and inspired to go into coaching by Switzer because of his charisma and energy and their respect for Broyles.

What he's always wanted to be is the coach but he won't take that risk. It's no coincidence that his mentor, even going back to his desire to buy the Chargers, was the most involved owner/GM in the history of the AFL. Before he became Crazy Al, he was as good a football man as there had been in the NFL and Madden attested to that. He was the AFC equivalent to Paul Brown and George Halas.

Booger is the once removed HC of the Cowboys and only stopped going down to the field during games when he realized he couldn't be hands off. He makes announcements the other 31 HC's make.

Booger irritates me because of his spotlight seeking personality and the fact he can't speak after 29 years of hogging the mic but as the GM, he does not irritate me and I give him credit for learning. It took mistakes, sometimes repetitive mistakes, but I think he finally got it. I think he's done a fine job on the talent side of it but his coaching side leaves a lot to be desired but considering his motive, it is completely understandable. Should Garrett do anything, Booger will get credit for that and Garrett will make sure that happens. That is Garrett's gift, he understands what his boss wants and needs more than anything else.

Several years back, Booger made this tongue in cheek comment to the local media about "getting some credit if the team won another" only if you looked really closely at his smile and his eyes, that was anything but tongue in cheek. The man is crazy successful but still lacks that which eludes him, that which completes him in his own mind.

Sound analysis of JJ. Sad that a gold jacket didn't do it for him...lol.

Well, I for one, would love to see him get that credit. It would drive the football world insane for us to win another Super Bowl, & seeing Jerry Jones gloating might just push some of em over the edge...hahaha.

Melonfeud · Dec 31, 2018

SHEESE

Idgit · Dec 31, 2018

Lotta time going into crafting elaborate justifications for having been wrong about a head coach here these days.

eastsideboy · Dec 31, 2018

conner01 said:
Wouldn’t anyone he hired be his guy
Either way he hired him so he could easily take credit for the hire

But we can always hope for a knew OC :grin:

DavidS · Dec 31, 2018

erod said:
Jerry's biggest fear....

Having to replace Garrett and then having to watch all the credit go to the next coach if success follows, a la Jimmy Johnson.

It eats at him like a pack of rats. Credit consumes him. He's basking in the Amari Cooper light as we speak. He feels like a football man, and it's glorious.

Any other coach won't be "his" guy unless it's his buddy Lincoln Riley, who isn't ready to jump yet. It's gotta be Garrett, or the asterisk on Jerry will be fully supplanted.

Anything short of a win Sunday and a good showing in the divisional round....and the vultures will be swirling over Jerry all offseason to fire Garrett.

He shouldn't see it that way, but that's just his hillbilly logic.

We all know Linehan is the planned fall guy, but if this ends in a thud, that won't placate anybody. It will be laughed at endlessly.

Jerry is puckered up right now.

Calling a Self-Made Millionaire with a National Championship and 3-Superbowl Rings a hillbilly is right up there up.

Calm down and enjoy the game and let's see if these Boys can win huge playoff game.

Sarge · Dec 31, 2018

NorthwestDallas40 said:
Regardless of what happens Saturday, Garrett is not getting fired. Sadly. But you don’t go 10-6, win 7 of last 8, and the division, and get fired.

We’ll see about that.

Fire407 · Dec 31, 2018

All of the other teams see Jason as a puppet. They aren't going to hire him as a head coach. Jerry will help Jason save face by promoting him.

Fire407 · Dec 31, 2018

Idgit said:
Lotta time going into crafting elaborate justifications for having been wrong about a head coach here these days.

How could we possibly be wrong about the head coach? It's not what his record is, it's what potential has been wasted over the past 8 years. I'm sorry, but we've had some super star talent that never got to see a Super Bowl with Jason, and I firmly believe we could have had 2 or more Super Bowls with a decent coach. He many get there this year, but with the talent on this team if he doesn't get to the NFC championship game at least, then he should get fired. If he gets there then I will be OK with him being the coach for another year, but personally I don't think we will ever win a Super Bowl with Jason as head coach.

ESisback · Dec 31, 2018

erod said:
Jerry's biggest fear....

Having to replace Garrett and then having to watch all the credit go to the next coach if success follows, a la Jimmy Johnson.

It eats at him like a pack of rats. Credit consumes him. He's basking in the Amari Cooper light as we speak. He feels like a football man, and it's glorious.

Any other coach won't be "his" guy unless it's his buddy Lincoln Riley, who isn't ready to jump yet. It's gotta be Garrett, or the asterisk on Jerry will be fully supplanted.

Anything short of a win Sunday and a good showing in the divisional round....and the vultures will be swirling over Jerry all offseason to fire Garrett.

He shouldn't see it that way, but that's just his hillbilly logic.

We all know Linehan is the planned fall guy, but if this ends in a thud, that won't placate anybody. It will be laughed at endlessly.

Jerry is puckered up right now.

They’ll laugh at the Cowboys for anything other than a dominating Super Bowl victory. It’s “Must $ee TV”!

ESisback · Dec 31, 2018

Fire407 said:
All of the other teams see Jason as a puppet. They aren't going to hire him as a head coach. Jerry will help Jason save face by promoting him.

A lot of that has to do with the perception fostered by the media.

Rayman70 · Dec 31, 2018

NorthwestDallas40 said:
Regardless of what happens Saturday, Garrett is not getting fired. Sadly. But you don’t go 10-6, win 7 of last 8, and the division, and get fired.

MAYBE...maybe not. NEVER SAY NEVER in this business. Just look at the coaches that got canned today. More to come too. I think we will see a surprising firing. Ron Rivera for example. I must go on record and call out Arizona. What THE HELL did they expect in the front office in year one, with a rookie QB, rookie HC and a revamped offense? It shows us all how friggin inept a F.O. can be. What happened to Steve Wilkes was shoddy!!! At least give the dude a second year...AT LEAST. Makes you wonder if they even have a plan at all. No wonder Mike McCarthy turned them down. Worst ran franchise in the league,bar none.

dckid · Dec 31, 2018

DB_Cooper said:
Jerry’s biggest nightmare is letting go of Garrett and then seeing Garrett win a Super Bowl with another team. Seriously I think that is what keeps Garrett here. If that happened everyone would blame our lack of success 100% on Jerry.

This has to be the post of the year. Garrett would. It be signed by any NFL team. What does he do? He doesn’t coach offense, defense, special teams, doesn’t manage the game.

bsbellomy · Dec 31, 2018

DB_Cooper said:
Jerry’s biggest nightmare is letting go of Garrett and then seeing Garrett win a Super Bowl with another team. Seriously I think that is what keeps Garrett here. If that happened everyone would blame our lack of success 100% on Jerry.

That's an unrealistic hypothetical.

CWR · Dec 31, 2018

kskboys said:
Ah, but don't put words in my mouth!!!!

I do realize that most Jerry bashers don't give him any credit. That's the usual argument, I know. Not mine. i think it's wrong for you to call me a hypocrite.

My intent wasnt to be snarky and I didn't mean to say you personally are a hypocrite. I meant that as more of a general statement in regards to most who bash on him. Anyhow I was addressing him not watching tape or evaluating players and not being considered a "football guy."

Idgit · Dec 31, 2018

Fire407 said:
How could we possibly be wrong about the head coach? It's not what his record is, it's what potential has been wasted over the past 8 years. I'm sorry, but we've had some super star talent that never got to see a Super Bowl with Jason, and I firmly believe we could have had 2 or more Super Bowls with a decent coach. He many get there this year, but with the talent on this team if he doesn't get to the NFC championship game at least, then he should get fired. If he gets there then I will be OK with him being the coach for another year, but personally I don't think we will ever win a Super Bowl with Jason as head coach.

I’m not sure how you could be so wrong about the coach. It’s easy to say we should have been a lot better than we were. The reality is, we’ve been pretty much exactly as good as our talent during this period. The ‘super talent’ you mention cake coupled with a historically bad defense. League bad, not franchise bad.

The test of an organization is assembling and retaining players, and we’ve done it better than most, but not as good as some during the Garrett years. Where we’ve primarily fallen down is in not handicapping certain positions properly in the event of injury, and in not being quite aggressive enough in very specific situations in free agency. The issue has never been the coaching.

Reid1boys · Dec 31, 2018

Fire407 said:
All of the other teams see Jason as a puppet. They aren't going to hire him as a head coach. Jerry will help Jason save face by promoting him.

JG was about to get a head coaching position somewhere and is why Jerry paid him bucks to stay as OC. He is not viewed as a puppet in NFL circles near as much as he is here.

In addition, I truly find it hilarious that so many of you think that a guy that is worth BILLIONS, has done pretty much anything he has wanted to do for much of his adult life, owns the most visible sports team in the world, and basically has one hell of a life, is so insecure that you think he actually cares what others think. If he wants JG back, he will bring him back. If he thinks Dak is worth a big contract, he is gonna pay him. If thinks beer at his stadium should be 25 bucks each, hes gonna charge 25 bucks.

And you can cal him Hullbilly Jerra all you want, and it will never change the fact hes knows more than any of us in this forum about the Dallas Cowboys.

Cheers to my favorite owner!

Dale · Dec 31, 2018

Fire407 said:
All of the other teams see Jason as a puppet. They aren't going to hire him as a head coach. Jerry will help Jason save face by promoting him.

I’m almost starting to see it the other way around. Garrett is a puppet in the sense he has to bow to Jerry and let Jerry hone in on anything he wants, but he has he toughest head coaching gig in the NFL having to manage that relationship while maintaining the respect of his players.

And he has done just that — and quite well, actually.

There’s a structure in this organization we haven’t seen in some time. There’s a synergy between Garrett’s coaching staff and McClay’s department.

Either Garrett has his hands all over that, or we really owe Jerry a lot more credit than anyone imagined.

Dre11 · Dec 31, 2018

erod said:
Jerry's biggest fear....

Having to replace Garrett and then having to watch all the credit go to the next coach if success follows, a la Jimmy Johnson.

It eats at him like a pack of rats. Credit consumes him. He's basking in the Amari Cooper light as we speak. He feels like a football man, and it's glorious.

Any other coach won't be "his" guy unless it's his buddy Lincoln Riley, who isn't ready to jump yet. It's gotta be Garrett, or the asterisk on Jerry will be fully supplanted.

Anything short of a win Sunday and a good showing in the divisional round....and the vultures will be swirling over Jerry all offseason to fire Garrett.

He shouldn't see it that way, but that's just his hillbilly logic.

We all know Linehan is the planned fall guy, but if this ends in a thud, that won't placate anybody. It will be laughed at endlessly.

Jerry is puckered up right now.

Why does this matter right now

Diehardblues · Dec 31, 2018

kskboys said:
Garrett has a bad OC, but good D coaches.

I do see some merit in the yes man theory. If Linehan finally gets the axe, it'll be fascinating to see if he gets another yes man.

It appears JG hired Linehan in the first place due to similar O ideas.

Yep

It’s still Garrett’s offense. I suspect the passing playcalling is limited due to Daks weaknesses.

I’m all for bringing in another OC but does that mean we’re abolishing Garretts offense? IDK?

I’m ok with firing Linehan, was never attached to him but I’m afraid our issues are more deeply rooted.

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