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I understand that; I'm asking if it was as prevalent 30-40 years ago
Google Jake Tatum you will have your answer.
I understand that; I'm asking if it was as prevalent 30-40 years ago
Well said brother. IMO, the “millennial” generation of young people today are outstanding. Including the football players!lawyers are to blame for the changes to the game that changed how we can tackle, etc. i'm 72, but think the younger generation is as tough as ever. operation desert storm, Afghanistan prove that. just as proud of the younger generation as any other.
Check out Don McNeal at under 6 foot trying to tackle a bull like Riggins ; what corner have you seen the last decade or so do that ?
Jack Tatum?Google Jake Tatum you will have your answer.
They are still tough but they are not as tough as they once were. There bodies couldn’t handle the abuse of the old days because they aren’t conditioned for it. They barely practice in pads and the training camps now are joke compared to the older days. The games at the beginning of the year are sloppy because there bodies aren’t acclimated to the contact.I’m an “old timer” and I definitely believe football players today are tough. Just as they were 50 years ago. My dad played on a high school state championship team in 1951 and those kids were really tough. No face masks, lol. But he would never say that players today are soft. The game has changed, but toughness is still a requirement.
Avoiding collisions. Letting ball-carriers run right by you without even attempting a tackle. It seems to be happening more and more.
There are the obvious examples from guys like Mike Jenkins, Deion, Curtis Riley of the Giants on the Jarwin TD, etc etc etc.
My question is for the long-time fans (who watched the NFL in the 70s-80s):
Is this a new evolution of making business decisions/ showing outright laziness? Or did similar things happen in the "old days" also? Seems to me like a lot of guys in the modern-NFL are in it purely for the $$ and couldn't care less about the outcome of games.
We actually practice it a bit more, because of all the new rules and safety. Diffence is, we don't do nearly as much as full contact as we did back in the day. Most for form and technique. No more bull in the ring or full blown tackling.My Old-timer memory (which generally serves me well) tells me that tackling was much more robust back in the day. More than a business decision, I think the biggest change in today's game is tackling doesn't appear to be emphasized and practiced today as much as it was a generation ago.
This is a great question for @Ranching.
First off, the only real “business decision” players had to make 30-40yrs ago was, am I gonna try to play another year or retire?Avoiding collisions. Letting ball-carriers run right by you without even attempting a tackle. It seems to be happening more and more.
There are the obvious examples from guys like Mike Jenkins, Deion, Curtis Riley of the Giants on the Jarwin TD, etc etc etc.
My question is for the long-time fans (who watched the NFL in the 70s-80s):
Is this a new evolution of making business decisions/ showing outright laziness? Or did similar things happen in the "old days" also? Seems to me like a lot of guys in the modern-NFL are in it purely for the $$ and couldn't care less about the outcome of games.
The league is much much much more competitive now for playing spots than it ever was before.40 years ago? No. Guys who would run away from contact wouldn't last long. But the league was different. Fewer teams meant more competition for starting positions. The rules didn't punish violent blows. Contracts were not as lucrative and there was no free agency to worry about.
I’m sixty seven. Do I qualify as an old timer??Avoiding collisions. Letting ball-carriers run right by you without even attempting a tackle. It seems to be happening more and more.
There are the obvious examples from guys like Mike Jenkins, Deion, Curtis Riley of the Giants on the Jarwin TD, etc etc etc.
My question is for the long-time fans (who watched the NFL in the 70s-80s):
Is this a new evolution of making business decisions/ showing outright laziness? Or did similar things happen in the "old days" also? Seems to me like a lot of guys in the modern-NFL are in it purely for the $$ and couldn't care less about the outcome of games.
Randy White used the head slap till banned, to me just a better football, I liked a level playing field. People came to watch the hits, not dancing in the end zone.Good question- It happened occasionally but not as much as today. But I think the problem with tackling today can attributed more to the rules changes regarding how you can legally hit. The art of tackling has dramatically changed.
If you went back and watched a game from the 70s, it was brutal. QBs were thrown around like a rag doll and pile driven into the ground and it was totally legal. The great HOF DE David “Deacon” Jones made a career out of his famous head slap on OL that is not legal today. In the “old days”, defenders had more physical advantages than today. It’s one reason defense is much harder to play in today’s game.
The so-called “business decision” that is often referred to about players would really more appropriately be tagged to the NFL owners. They literally made a business decision a few years ago that the game is not sustainable with the level of violent hits that were allowable in the rules. The game is evolving.
Oldtimers..Avoiding collisions. Letting ball-carriers run right by you without even attempting a tackle. It seems to be happening more and more.
There are the obvious examples from guys like Mike Jenkins, Deion, Curtis Riley of the Giants on the Jarwin TD, etc etc etc.
My question is for the long-time fans (who watched the NFL in the 70s-80s):
Is this a new evolution of making business decisions/ showing outright laziness? Or did similar things happen in the "old days" also? Seems to me like a lot of guys in the modern-NFL are in it purely for the $$ and couldn't care less about the outcome of games.