Think Ken Norton teaches dirty tactics?

Future · Jan 10, 2019

This is basically the exact same play as a horsecollar.

Both are dangerous, but I don't think either is particularly dirty.

CouchCoach · Jan 10, 2019

Let's see all the hands of those that have actually tried tackling a NFL RB or receiver. You get them on the ground as expeditiously as possible. That was a 3rd down play going for a 1st down, every inch counts.

Man, some give credit for body control of large men at full short burst speed.

ABQCOWBOY · Jan 10, 2019

Seattle has been a dirty tackling team for years and it started long before KNJ got there. This is a Pete Carroll thing.

nightrain · Jan 10, 2019

Seahawks' Lockett had eerily similar ankle break vs the Cardinals. I think the receivers of today are much harder to bring down in the open field and it can take a a great deal more effort to do so, especially for DBs.

bigdnlaca · Jan 10, 2019

This happened because the league made the players scared to hit high. So DCs are teaching the players to tackle low because it assures them that they won't get fined, suspended, or penalized.

Bob-Lillys-War · Jan 10, 2019

The sort of tackling they due is prone to injuring the offensive players , it has been told to them time and again but they just don't care .

LittleLexodus · Jan 10, 2019

Hurns injury didn't look intentional.

Scotman said:
UGH...I have tried to avoid seeing this. A warning at the top would have been appreciated.

SlimBig said:
Hey man, a warning of the injury would be nice.

I hate when people just post terrible injuries on social media without any notice.
Many of us turn away or don't want to see it.

I can't believe people are this soft.

The Quest for Six · Jan 10, 2019

jazzcat22 said:
But yet Beasley's injured ankle happened almost the same way a few plays before.

Not saying any was on purpose, as I do not believe they were. It is just unfortunate as you said.
But just bringing that up for the conspiracy theorist. To see if there may be something to it after all.

Beasley had a injured ankle weeks prior, he just aggravated it

CF74 · Jan 10, 2019

It’s possible but likely just a fluke, bad stuff happens sometimes...

tm1119 · Jan 10, 2019

The point everyone is missing is that if Hurns’ foot isn’t planted that exact way at the exact time we are talking about a sprain at worst. Is it the best/safest way to bring someone down? Not at all, but trying to bring down a professional football player in the safest way possible is a hell of a lot harder to say than do

Johnny23 · Jan 10, 2019

CB61 said:
I did not watch too much of the Seahawks other than our game this year I'd like to go back and look at some of the other games

I live in Washington state and have watched Seahawks their entire run. They have always played dirty. They push the envelope to the edge. That's always been their mo to do what ever is as close to the line as possible without going over.

Dre11 · Jan 10, 2019

basilhayden said:
I believe we mostly all think the Seahawks play dirty.
Hurns injury reminds me of the sack of Kelly by Norton in the SB.
Grab em and roll against the legs....

There's a video of the Seahawks hawk and roll technique . Check it out

Red Dragon · Jan 10, 2019

lostar2009 said:
He is an enemy now. The scum bag.

He was an enemy ever since the day in 1994 that he left in free agency to join the Niners.

Red Dragon · Jan 10, 2019

TwentyOne said:
How about letting it go ?
We won.
This is a violent sport. Injuries happen.

There's a difference between "injuries happen" as in random, unpreventable injuries in the course of a game, and the dirty, malicious and intentional tactics of the Seahawks, meant to injure.

CyberB0b · Jan 10, 2019

CB61 said:
It definitely looks like to me anyways and the game that all the Seahawk tacklers are going for the legs oh, now with that being said many many years ago when I played football we were always taught to take the legs out cuz that's how you bring someone down but not quite like they did it we were taught to grab around just below the waist and wrap up the legs if I remember right it certainly seemed to me that they were going for the ankles oh, now not that some tackles don't end up being around the ankles it certainly seemed like to me that they were definitely targeting them

It's no secret how they tackle.

OmerV · Jan 10, 2019

basilhayden said:
I believe we mostly all think the Seahawks play dirty.
Hurns injury reminds me of the sack of Kelly by Norton in the SB.
Grab em and roll against the legs....

This just comes from the tackler not having his feet under him, falling to the ground and just grabbing hold and trying to drag the man with the ball down. Neither Norton then, or the Seattle tackler now, were in position for a form tackle with solid footing under them, they were just trying to hold on as they were going to the ground, and the player's leg being under them was just an unfortunate consequence.

Scotman · Jan 10, 2019

LittleLexodus said:
Hurns injury didn't look intentional.

I can't believe people are this soft.

I'm "soft" because I don't want to see one of our player's broken ankle? I'm not damaged or triggered or anything else. I just didn't want to see it. Same kind of idea that the networks weren't going to show it over and over again. Typically, if you're going to show something like that on a family friendly site, you warn people.

There are lots of reasons someone might want to see it. Someone with a similar experience. Someone with a medical background looking for more information about his potential injury. Someone who was nothing more than truly curious. I wasn't faulting anyone who wanted to see it. I just didn't have any reason to want to. I feel really bad for the kid and that was enough reason for me to not want to see it.

Not once on this site have I ever called any one a name. I don't engage in trying to pull anyone down. It is incredibly short-sighted for you to call me anything. You don't know me...at all. No one who has ever known my story has called me soft.

jrumann59 · Jan 10, 2019

Norton was in on the tackle that broke Napolen McCallum's leg also....

America's Cowboy · Jan 10, 2019

Jake said:
Good job, Sherlock Holmes. You cracked the case! Two plays a quarter of a century apart proves it! Condemn that man...

...just ignore every other time that sort of injury has happened to players in games not involving the Cowboys or Ken Norton.

Doesn't change the fact Ken Norton teaches his players to "tackle" that way. I've been saying since the 80s, that form of rolling over a ball carrier's lower legs should be outright banned! That crap can ruin a players career immediately.

Daktozekecoop · Jan 10, 2019

No, I don't think that at all. Ken Norton is an all time great warrior for the Cowboys. This is football. A violent sport of gladiators. Injuries happen constantly.

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