The 4th and 1

Dre11 said:

True it is, but in context of this thread, going to your best player in a crucial situation is not a bad call, the result was.

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I am ok with giving Zeke the ball.

I do think calling the play towards the best defensive player in the league in a do or die situation is too risky though. I would prefer they let Zeke run to the outside and away from Donald.

Our fans are reactionary...if we lined up 5 wide on 4th and 1 and don't get it everybody would be calling our team an idiot for going for it.
Our defense is why we lost. they gave up over 36 minutes of time of possession.

Dre11 said:

True it is, but in context of this thread, going to your best player in a crucial situation is not a bad call, the result was.

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I'm not saying your wrong. Give zeke the ball. What about a different look though. Maybe spread the defense out or something. You didn't give your guy zeke the opportunity to make a play because the play was doomed from the start. Rams sold out against it.

What frustrates me is the predictability of the play. Of course i'm all for giving zeke the ball. Just don't be so dam predictable. Especially when you ran it last week, pretty much same formation and it was stopped.

DuceizBak said:

Our fans are reactionary...if we lined up 5 wide on 4th and 1 and don't get it everybody would be calling our team an idiot for going for it.
Our defense is why we lost. they gave up over 36 minutes of time of possession.

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I said in the original post the defense was bad. I'm not excusing them. Just this specific play made me upset because its bad. Its predictable and its been going on all year like this with the offense.

DakPresgoat said:

I am ok with giving Zeke the ball.

I do think calling the play towards the best defensive player in the league in a do or die situation is too risky though. I would prefer they let Zeke run to the outside and away from Donald.

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That's hindsight, of course they could've , but even if it didn't work, they're being crucified for spreading it out.

nightrain said:

Zeke had more room to maneuver if he veered a little more left.

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This is what I saw too. Looked like Zeke rushed it a bit and had daylight to the left. But the crowd's made up its mind on this one already based on how many raced past your post.

TheHerd said:

Why is it other teams run sneaks and get 3 yards on those plays? Goff did it earlier in this game. We can't do that it seems.

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The QB sneak was wide open to the left of the center. Re watch it. Brady would have called it every time vs this alignment!

We have been doing that on 3rd and short and 4th and short. Predictable and low percentage. Yet our coaches keep going to it. Mainly Garrett is to be faulted for this.

mldardy said:

Yeah giving the ball to your best player and the league's leading rusher is one of the dumbest play calls ever. This is one of the dumbest posts ever.

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Its not the fact it was a run, its the fact that it was a run straight up the gut against the best DT in the league.

If you cant understand that, not much I can do to help you.

Win with got you there and lose by it too.. I had a bad feeling about that run.

Playmaker3128 said:

Granted defense was bad..... i'm just talking about this specific play. You line up on that play. You bunch everything in close to the line of scrimmage. Have one wr in the formation. Your are essentially telling the defense what you are doing. Zeke had no shot on this play.

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There are three things that bother me about this.

1. Your playing right into the strength of the rams defense. Literally right into it.

2. You ran the same play last week in seattle on a 3rd and 1 and got stopped.

3. As you proved in this very same game, the dak zeke read option is impossible to cover on 4th and short.

Its almost as if the coaching staff calls "safe" plays to avoid fan criticism. At the very least linehan has to go.

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The old predictable Garrett/Linehan 1 back set 4th and 1 Stuff the run play that has ended our season pretty much every year since this Turkey has been coaching. Lol.

He's an ignorant coach who is never gonna win beans.. The only coach in the NFL who refused to take his te off the field on passing downs even though we've had the Sorriest te core in football for 5 years. Lmao

All of DC Nation knows this is ignorant and everyone who is always arguing about the Everydown Te is why we have a losing team every year .This scheme hasn't won jack squat in 22 years and won't win beans in another 22 years if you got a shut down D, an ace sts, and a league leading rusher .

The coach is just as pathetic as this losing scheme. Everybody on God's Green earth knew that these tes werent gonna do squat again this week. The road to nowhere goes thru these sorry practice squad level tes who never come off the field .

I told everyone in this forum how this game was gonna play out. Just like the Indy game or Detroit PLAYOFF game without the choking. If The Ram's woulda played well it woulda been 42 to 20. Lol .

Suckers again thinking the Jumbo pkg was gonna work when it never ever has and never ever will.

TheHerd said:

Why is it other teams run sneaks and get 3 yards on those plays? Goff did it earlier in this game. We can't do that it seems.

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Because our DTs are mediocre and their DTs are great

We don't understand how to build a great defense

This was a play where Dak should have been called for a sneak,but not our staff. No,instead the Rams staff called the right QB run for a crucial first down.

Dre11 said:

That's hindsight, of course they could've , but even if it didn't work, they're being crucified for spreading it out.

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That’s what happens when you lose.

The people responsible for winning games, get blamed for their mistakes.

If they won the game. People would be giving credit for good coaching decisions.

visionary said:

Because our DTs are mediocre and their DTs are great

We don't understand how to build a great defense

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Exactly.

SL is a joke. He and KM need to be sent to Russia and start a team over there.

Playmaker3128 said:

Granted defense was bad..... i'm just talking about this specific play. You line up on that play. You bunch everything in close to the line of scrimmage. Have one wr in the formation. Your are essentially telling the defense what you are doing. Zeke had no shot on this play.

There are three things that bother me about this.

1. Your playing right into the strength of the rams defense. Literally right into it.

2. You ran the same play last week in seattle on a 3rd and 1 and got stopped.

3. As you proved in this very same game, the dak zeke read option is impossible to cover on 4th and short.

Its almost as if the coaching staff calls "safe" plays to avoid fan criticism. At the very least linehan has to go.

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I'm not going to defend running right at Donald and Suh, but it sure the hell looked to me like there was a small crease between Williams and Smith which is all you can ask for in that situation. It just looked like Zeke put his head down and ran right into Williams' back. Then by the time he spun over to the crease it had closed down. I think he definitely would have made the 1st if he'd have kept his head up and hit the hole.

The Rams completely 100% sold out to a run up the middle and everyone knew they would, yet we still ran it right up the middle. Stupidest play call of the year. Play action, run pass option nets 10 yards to a TD, but then again, when you have a QB who can't hit the side of the barn when it comes to throwing to a wide open receiver? Meh, can't blame the play call so much.

sdfidaho said:

I'm not going to defend running right at Donald and Suh, but it sure the hell looked to me like there was a small crease between Williams and Smith which is all you can ask for in that situation. It just looked like Zeke put his head down and ran right into Williams' back. Then by the time he spun over to the crease it had closed down. I think he definitely would have made the 1st if he'd have kept his head up and hit the hole.

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You know I thought the same and then went to pull the tape and I get what confused Elliott. It looks like Martin and Looney were designed to create a crease down center for Zeke to muscle through and Suh blew it up. You'll see Looney attempt to block Suh left and Suh fights his way right. Zeke would have had to pull a LeVeon Bell to react to the resulting crease on the left once Looney finally pancaked Suh in what looked to be in an undesigned location. The other lightning reaction would have been to fake inside and bounce outside to outrun the DB. Can't really cast a lot of blame from my standpoint though.

DakPresgoat said:

That’s what happens when you lose.

The people responsible for winning games, get blamed for their mistakes.

If they won the game. People would be giving credit for good coaching decisions.

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That's a lazy observation though,