Why we lost

America's Cowboy said:

Can you spew more poison about the TEs.

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The everydown te position is the Sole Reason we haven't fielded a playoff caliber team under Garrett

Everybody seems to think that we can win playing a scrub te everydown. Y'all talk about Dak can't put up passing #'s like Rogers, Brady or Brees but you got Blake Jarwin and Dalton Schultz playing nevey passing snap and we have 10 x better receivers on the bench. Why doesn't Dak get to play with our best 5 skilled players as weapons. These tes ran routes all day against the Rams and they didn't make an impact .they only kept others around them from making an impact and they kept better players on the bench.

They don't make any impact so why must this ignorant coaching staff continue with the Everydown Te position? Their play is what poisons our offense .I'm just speaking the truth. They got poor stats going for 5 years and there is still no changes being made.

What's worse is that some of y'all are accepting and think this is some part of a successful game plan or scheme.

Where is it winning games. The tes are the sole reason we suck at Scoring. They have no red zone skills, no deep ball skillsets no chain moving skillsets so why are they out there on critical passing downs if they can't make the plays?

Can you elaborate how them not catching passes and Scoring points is part of some majical formula?

CowboysExchange said:

The everydown te position is the Sole Reason we haven't fielded a playoff caliber team under Garrett

Everybody seems to think that we can win playing a scrub te everydown. Y'all talk about Dak can't put up passing #'s like Rogers, Brady or Brees but you got Blake Jarwin and Dalton Schultz playing nevey passing snap and we have 10 x better receivers on the bench. Why doesn't Dak get to play with our best 5 skilled players as weapons. These tes ran routes all day against the Rams and they didn't make an impact .they only kept others around them from making an impact and they kept better players on the bench.

They don't make any impact so why must this ignorant coaching staff continue with the Everydown Te position? Their play is what poisons our offense .I'm just speaking the truth. They got poor stats going for 5 years and there is still no changes being made

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So you want something like a run-n-shoot offense under Dak?

America's Cowboy said:

So you want something like a run-n-shoot offense under Dak?

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What does an everydown te scheme have to do with a run n shoot scheme

I believe on third down we need to bench the non Producing tes in favor of better slot wrs and rbs. Yes yes yes

I'd rather have a run n shoot scheme that is successful than a te scheme that yields us zeros in the stat columns of these everydown tes every week

CowboysExchange said:

What does an everydown te scheme have to do with a run n shoot scheme

I believe on third down we need to bench the non Producing tes in favor of better slot wrs and rbs. Yes yes yes

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A run-n-shoot offense is a variant of a spread offense where 4 receivers (and no TE) is basically used.

Here is a webpage where links to various run-n-shoot offensive playbooks have been used in different football programs throughout history.

http://www.footballxos.com/free-football-playbooks/offense-playbooks/run-and-shoot/



Is this what you are referring to and actually prefer?

America's Cowboy said:

A run-n-shoot offense is a variant of a spread offense where 4 receivers (and no TE) is basically used.

Here is a webpage where links to various run-n-shoot offensive playbooks have been used in different football programs throughout history.

http://www.footballxos.com/free-football-playbooks/offense-playbooks/run-and-shoot/

Is this what you are referring to and actually prefer?

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I'm familiar with the Run and shoot offense. I don't prefer a run n shoot offensive scheme but I do believe in 4 wr sets and dual rb tandems.
I don't believe in the 15 year everydown te scheme that nobody can explain it's worth

I'm not a believer of the fb position whatsoever. If you got a te with some receiving skilsets let's get him on the field to make some plays .but when he doesn't catch enough ball or score enough TDS on passing downs let's get him off the field please.

All the other skilled players are fighting to get better but they could never get better enough to overcome our tes output. We'll never have a team with a one TD a year te playing every snap

CowboysExchange said:

I'm familiar with the Run and shoot offense. I don't prefer a run n shoot offensive scheme but I do believe in 4 wr sets and dual rb tandems.
I don't believe in the 15 year everydown te scheme that nobody can explain it's worth

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Ok. So you want a constant spread offense with no TEs at all? That type of offense?

CowboysExchange said:

I'm familiar with the Run and shoot offense. I don't prefer a run n shoot offensive scheme but I do believe in 4 wr sets and dual rb tandems.
I don't believe in the 15 year everydown te scheme that nobody can explain it's worth

I'm not a believer of the fb position whatsoever. If you got a te with some receiving skilsets let's get him on the field to make some plays .but when he doesn't catch enough ball or score enough TDS on passing downs let's get him off the field please.

All the other skilled players are fighting to get better but they could never get better enough to overcome our tes output. We'll never have a team with a one TD a year te playing every snap

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Jason Witten was a 4 Td a year receiver and we couldn't win beans w him either. But a 1 TD a year guy gonna take us to a higher level

America's Cowboy said:

Ok. So you want a constant spread offense with no TEs at all? That type of offense?

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No. I believe you should scheme the offense around your strengths and others weaknesses. The league is predicated upon Scoring points. You gotta have guys that can score and cut bait with the guys that cant

I love me some 11 &12 personnel when you got a Jimmy Graham, Kelce, etc. If you don't have a te who can get the production benchmarks then you're only drawing away from your better receivers and quarterback. Every down players are only roles for Superstars .There is no superstar at the te position. We don't even have a mediocre guy. Why should he be out there on critical passing downs if he is a big fat nonfactor every week

I get it that you can't have a steak at every position but when youre te has 1 td all year and he's playing subpar as a receiver and he's still out there on every passing snap then I'm gonna put a steak out there at rb or slot wrs so we can eat and win.

You can't show up with zeros every week and expect to play every snap.

CowboysExchange said:

No. I believe you should scheme the offense around your strengths and others weaknesses. The league is predicated upon Scoring points. You gotta have guys that can score and cut bait with the guys that cant

I love me some 11 &12 personnel when you got a Jimmy Graham, Kelce, etc. If you don't have a te who can get the production benchmarks then you're only drawing away from your better receivers and quarterback. Every down players are only roles for Superstars .There is no superstar at the te position. We don't even have a mediocre guy. Why should he be out there on critical passing downs if he is a big fat nonfactor every week

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So what receivers would you have preferred the Cowboys have out there and under what formations?

America's Cowboy said:

So what receivers would you have preferred the Cowboys have out there and under what formations?

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Cooper, Beasely austin gallop Dak n Zeke on critical passing downs

That's exactly what your gonna get from Belichek if he was the coach and it was a critical passing down or drive. He's not gonna March down the field with a non producer in black or white much less give him a role that he hasn't earned

You put Beasely on the Patriots or Packers and he's gonna be an everydown player more often than not. But on the Cowboys he's just a complimentary player who is spot played. I get it that he's just a possession RECEIVER but he's still better than all the tes who are wasting all of our passing snaps. At least he's gonna draw coverage away from the other skilled players.

He's gonna sign for about 8-10 million a year and somebody will make him into a TD machine in the red zone.

I betcha beasely can't wait to get on a team that doesn't feature a bunch of scrub tes. He only has 3-4 TDS a year but you put him on a good team that features him in the red zone and he'll be an 8 TD a year player

The Cowboys scheme is reliant on their QBs and rbs to score since their tes can't get the job done. It's either that or the back shoulder fade or 50/50 jumpball schemes

Worst red zone team in the entire league because of these tes. They are allergic to winning and Scoring points at the Playoff Level

Defense looked bad but you had to expect the Rams to put up points. They avg 33 points a game.
Cowboys had to score points in this game and they failed to do so. 15 until 4 minutes left in the game.
Not a winning formula at all.

jakethepug said:

Defense looked bad but you had to expect the Rams to put up points. They avg 33 points a game.
Cowboys had to score points in this game and they failed to do so. 15 until 4 minutes left in the game.
Not a winning formula at all.

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yeah it looked just about like the detroit playoff game. Except the Rams are clutch and Detroit was choke city.

I picked the Rams and chiefs in the Superbowl and Im still feeling pretty good about both although Im still worried about the chiefs .

I feel pretty confident the Rams are gonna blow out the Saints worse than the Cowboys. There is NO WAY THAT THE SAINTS ARE GONNA STOP THE RAMS THIS YEAR. NOBODY IS GONNA STOP GURLEY HES ALMOST AVERAGING 2 TDS A GAME WHICH IS PHENOMENAL. HES THE BEST RB IN THE LEAGUE AND THE LEAGUE MVP IMO

Not much mention of the "refs" in this thread. So I'll say this. We did not deserve in any way to win that game. We were dominated start to finish. HOWEVER, football is still football and stranger things do happen, when a team being dominated wins. We saw the Giants do it to us in the playoffs. We dominated them, they found a way to sneak out with a cheap win.

My point is, the refs extended to drives for the Rams. Yes, I know they missed other calls and made a few questionable calls against the Rams as well, but the two bad calls on stops, ended in TD's for the Rams. Had those calls not of occurred? We may very well have pulled out an undeserving win.

RD21 said:

Dak played Dak football, & turned in a performance good enough to win.

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Dak turned in a good performance after over 3 quarters of turning in a bad performance. I don't know if it is good enough to win if you play catch up after digging yourself into a hole. Yes he was hot at some point in the 4th quarter, but it was catchup time and the defense was in prevent mode.

Cowboysfandarin said:

Not much mention of the "refs" in this thread. So I'll say this. We did not deserve in any way to win that game. We were dominated start to finish. HOWEVER, football is still football and stranger things do happen, when a team being dominated wins. We saw the Giants do it to us in the playoffs. We dominated them, they found a way to sneak out with a cheap win.

My point is, the refs extended to drives for the Rams. Yes, I know they missed other calls and made a few questionable calls against the Rams as well, but the two bad calls on stops, ended in TD's for the Rams. Had those calls not of occurred? We may very well have pulled out an undeserving win.

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I agree the Refs didn't call a lot of penalties only 4 on each team but those 2 kept them on the field and took us off the field.

PA Cowboy Fan said:

And Zeke couldn't get going.

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shut down Zeke and there is a very good shot you win, at this point every DC in the league knows this, when Dallas play the lower level teams Dak can help to some degree in the 4th quarter when the opposition D is gassed if the score is close., Defense had a real bad game and Dak did nothing to keep the defense of the field, Coaches are poor all around, but there is one thing Jerry is happy he has a super bowl contender. (yet again) Enjoy the off season.

Blackrain said:

I agree the Refs didn't call a lot of penalties only 4 on each team but those 2 kept them on the field and took us off the field.

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only really bad call was the phantom in the grasp call.

kskboys said:

I'd say a complete inability to stop the run was the biggest reason we lost.

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Without a doubt ksk. Rams running game killed us. If we could've stopped that run a few times and got the ball back we might've won that game.

Hoov said:

I agree with all of the above.

Though Dak was better the second half. They totally sold out to stop zeke.

Was hoping the coaches would go pass happy in the 4th quarter. They couldn't cover our wr.

If we convert that 4th and 1 it's a different game. Didn't like running zeke right into the teeth of their defense

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Exactly! That was really a dumb call. The way they were stacked against that and we just dared fate by running Zeke into a brick wall. *SMH*