How the Rams got 270 yards

Floatyworm · Jan 14, 2019

atlantacowboy said:
I don't know how you keep Marinelli now. That should never happen in pro football. We are literally the dumbest team in the league. Our own coaching staff didn't notice these things?

I'm sure they knew...but here is the thing. They believe they were so superior talent wise...It didn't matter. That we would over come it.

That's how dumb our staff is. They think they can just line up and win...and X and O's don't matter.

If there was ever a weekend for Jerry to take notice....Coaching matters. And this staff has taken this team as far as it can. Jerry needs to get off his *** and find better coaches. Period.

Tabascocat · Jan 14, 2019

This is a prime example of why I can't stand Garrett and the staff. You should be expected to find out other teams weaknesses and exploit it, find the weak spot. This should be a weekly occurance, game to game.

Instead, it seems we usually let the other team dictate to us instead of the other way around. Beat your man only works when everything is perfect and clicking. If one spoke on the wheel breaks, the whole darn thing falls apart.

Coaching and scheming matters, especially in todays NFL.

Cowboysfandarin · Jan 14, 2019

This is why coaches like Parcels and other greats were back in the clubhouse watching film at 3am on Monday mornings. Coaches will watch each play on average, 74 times. Why? Because they have checklist to go through and one of those is discovering tells and other cues that an apposing team might uncover. It's ok to have tells, but you need to mix them up, hence keeping your opponent guessing. Obviously we didn't do that. The Rams had two weeks to prepare.

If you watch many of the running plays, it wasn"t so much they were blasting us off the line, it was more opposed directional running. You can actually use the defensive guy in front of you's momentum to just nudge him the way you already know he's going, and bam, you back blasts right through. You don;t even have to really fight the defender. Our D-line stunting left, they slide just right and so on. So yeah, I fully believe this story. Nobody runs on the Cowboys front 7 like that. Nobody! We got out smarted by a relatively easy tactic too.

Flamma · Jan 14, 2019

It reminds me of the week 2 game against the Eagles in 2015. The game where we were in their backfield on almost every play on defense. We looked like the '85 Bears but we weren't. Sean Lee and company knew where the plays were going. Calling them out multiple times on the field.

Similar to this game against the Rams. They consistently gashed us with their run game. We were nowhere near Goff for most of the game. So were the Cowboys doing something to tip them off? Probably. It would explain why they turned a relatively good D into trash. But hey, they deserve a lot of credit for doing their homework.

Soth · Jan 14, 2019

This makes a lot of sense. I have been scratching my head trying to understand how a top 5 rush defense gets completely gashed on the ground like that. I have never seen such a bad performance by a front 7. Not even during the Kiffin disastrous season as DC. It can't just be talent alone. We don't have an elite line, but they are not JAGs either. LVE and Jaylon are good LBs. I know the Rams are a good team, but come on, 270+ yards?

I thought their line just physically beat our line, but this thing about the "tells" makes sense. I kept seeing Jaylon and LVE shooting the wrong gaps, and the rams RBs kept running through huge gaps. You see this happen a few times a game, but doing this consistently all game???

My biggest worry is that they never adjusted. In 4 quarters they were unable to figure it out. Unbelievable.

birdwells1 · Jan 15, 2019

Soth said:
This makes a lot of sense. I have been scratching my head trying to understand how a top 5 rush defense gets completely gashed on the ground like that. I have never seen such a bad performance by a front 7. Not even during the Kiffin disastrous season as DC. It can't just be talent alone. We don't have an elite line, but they are not JAGs either. LVE and Jaylon are good LBs. I know the Rams are a good team, but come on, 270+ yards?

I thought their line just physically beat our line, but this thing about the "tells" makes sense. I kept seeing Jaylon and LVE shooting the wrong gaps, and the rams RBs kept running through huge gaps. You see this happen a few times a game, but doing this consistently all game???

My biggest worry is that they never adjusted. In 4 quarters they were unable to figure it out. Unbelievable.

Again why would that be there strategy going into the game unless they felt good about what they could do given the tells.

Fire407 · Jan 15, 2019

Cebrin said:
Reminds me of a scene from that movie called 'Invincible' with Mark Wahlberg.

Right! That movie takes place when Staubach was playing. You would think by now that players would know to change up their tells.

Sarge · Jan 15, 2019

Coaching is so much more than being a motivational speaker. The Rams are very well coached. Coaching had as much to do with the Rams kicking our *** as anything.

Legend · Jan 15, 2019

JG refuses or do not have the ability to make in game adjustments.

The 2013 game against the Lions - allowed Calvin Johnson to go bananas for 329 receiving yards.

2017 Atlanta game, allowed Chavez Green to continue to get beat for sacks.

Against the Rams, did not stack the line of scrimmage or run blitz continuously to get Goff to throw instead.

Teeroy · Jan 15, 2019

DominantD said:
I'm sure this was a valid consideration on the some of the plays. But even if they knew when we weren't going to stunt, or if they knew this was one on one blocking, we were blown off the ball. It was physical domination man vs. man. Rams looked like the Cowboys O-Line of early 90s when they simply owned the game. Stunts would have disrupted some of this. Blitzes certainly would have helped.

The bottom line to me... We were man vs. man whipped in the trenches. I don't recall seeing #94 anywhere near the QB's zip code... and I like Gregory's play this season a lot. But Saturday, he was man-handled... just like our interior DTs.

Again, I'm not discounting that coaching, alignment, etc. couldn't have changed anything. For me, I was thinking... we will get burned by this, but I would start using multiple blitzes and simply hope I was filling the right gaps for the run and hope I don't get burned deep... because I know my front 4 (or front 6) can't handle these matchups tonight.

Couldn’t have said it better

mugsybows · Jan 15, 2019

They are being taught to get out there and run it like a machine. Same way all the time. A lot like our coach there’s really no variance, creativity or personality in it. Good on the rams for even thinking that way, I have a feeling our coaches woulda never thought to scout like that.

MCMetal69 · Jan 15, 2019

Another example of how and why this entire coaching staff needs to be jettisoned ; there is enough talent there pretty much every season , yet the ceiling will always be the divisional round because of the lack of foresight , creativity and simple intelligence of the coaches..............

The Eagles came in against the Saints with an obviously different game plan than when they got blown out in their previous meeting , and they too , like us , had only a week to prepare......................And except for a missed catch might be playing again in the NFC championship game................

atlantacowboy · Jan 15, 2019

Sarge said:
Coaching is so much more than being a motivational speaker. The Rams are very well coached. Coaching had as much to do with the Rams kicking our *** as anything.

Well yeah. Mcvay hacked our DL. Thats a smart coach.

atlantacowboy · Jan 15, 2019

Floatyworm said:
I'm sure they knew...but here is the thing. They believe they were so superior talent wise...It didn't matter. That we would over come it.

That's how dumb our staff is. They think they can just line up and win...and X and O's don't matter.

If there was ever a weekend for Jerry to take notice....Coaching matters. And this staff has taken this team as far as it can. Jerry needs to get off his *** and find better coaches. Period.

I don't think anyone knew on the Dallas coaching staff. . Nobody ran on us like that. We have a dam good run defense . I was watching the game and wondering how the ram rb had all these big holes to run through. They weren't pancaking the DTs, but they did know which way they were going................and that is a huge advantage. Goff was literally watching the jumbotron presnap for 10-15 seconds waiting for the "tell" so he could make the play call adjustment.

percyhoward · Jan 15, 2019

percyhoward said:
Yeah, this was not a case of the Rams "just doing what they do."

This is a team that averaged 140 yards rushing per game, and they basically doubled that against us. With a QB who ranked 23rd in passer rating over the last 8 weeks, and had a 74.4 in this game.

I don't buy the "there's nothing to see here." There's plenty to see here.

Romo_To_Dez · Jan 15, 2019

atlantacowboy said:
I was listening to some radio show on the way home tonight and , apparently, there is a darn good reason the Rams ran the ball so effectively and seemed to have the perfect blocking scheme every snap.

The smart coach (not Garret) picked up on something studying film. Apparently, our DTs have "tells" that give away what they are about to do. I wish I was kidding.

“They have good players, but ... we had a lot of tips and tells on what they were going to do in front of us,” Rams center John Sullivan said.

What were the Cowboys linemen doing? Sullivan and right guard Austin Blythe told The Ringer that depending on how defensive tackles Maliek Collins and Antwaun Woods were set up before a snap, the Rams knew if a stunt was coming. For instance, if “Collins was shaded closer to the tackle instead of the guard, the Rams figured a stunt may be coming,” Danny Heifetz wrote.

“If the Rams saw Collins lined up slightly wider than usual, they looked for a second tell. If a certain Cowboys lineman had a specific hand on the ground—right or left—or if a player was tilted one way or the other, it confirmed what the Cowboys defensive line was going to do.”

“If [the defensive tackle] is going to come in, the tell is going to come in from the other side,” said Blythe, who figured the Rams had a tell on more than 90 percent of the snaps in their 30-22 win Saturday night.

We gave away 90% of the snaps!!!!!

If this coaching staff doesn't spend the off season on learning how to adjust to game conditions, where the opposing team has their plays figured out. :facepalm:

atlantacowboy · Jan 15, 2019

Romo_To_Dez said:
If this coaching staff doesn't spend the off season on learning how to adjust to game conditions, where the opposing team has their plays figured out.

They were making adjustments and trying different things. But, adjustments don't work when you have DTs giving them away. They may as well have handed Sean McVay a cowboy headet.

percyhoward · Jan 15, 2019

Self-scouting failure. Like every other team, the Cowboys have a group of guys whose only job is to look at stats and watch video of their own team to look for tendencies that the opponent might try to take advantage of.

lukin2006 · Jan 15, 2019

Not firing Garret and these clown coaches are just about dumbest thing Jones has done. Garret 2 playoff wins in 10 years. How is JG not embarrassed...a man with pride would resign, he is literally the laughing stock among his peers.

atlantacowboy · Jan 15, 2019

lukin2006 said:
Not firing Garret and these clown coaches are just about dumbest thing Jones has done. Garret 2 playoff wins in 10 years. How is JG not embarrassed...a man with pride would resign, he is literally the laughing stock among his peers.

Garret's pride should a thread of its own. lol

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