If Dak improves his deep ball is he the best QB in the league?

Willfreedom909 · Jan 16, 2019

CouchCoach said:
Aren't stats numbers? Ya got some stats that aren't numbers? And Will, best to not throw around the lie word so freely, posters can be mistaken or wrong but not lying.

Here's the problem with Dak and it been there all along, which is why he could never take the job from a healthy QB going back to high school. He can make all of the throws, and we've seen him do that with pinpoint accuracy. However, he's inconsistent and will miss easy throws like he did to Gallup on the sideline with a lot of green in front of him and threw behind him and Cooper on the crossing when all he had to do was lead him but he threw high and behind him. Those were easy throws for a NFL QB. Those are plays that have to be made.

I don't look at stats with Dak or many QB's, I watch them play and one thing I have noticed about Dak is that he's lucky. He gets a lot of picks dropped or that stat sheet would look different. That game in LA could have been a lot different, a lot worse.

I am not saying he's a bad QB but when he denies what he truly is, a dual threat QB that needs to make the D fear his legs as well, he is not close to being the best QB, he is not a Tier 1 QB. If he were not the Dallas Cowboys QB, he wouldn't get near the discussion he gets, same as Romo. Just getting the job gets the coverage.

The only way the Cowboys are going to win a championship with him is to build the right team around him, OL, run game and D. But that's not disrespecting him, most of the QB's in the league need that. Brees and Rodgers are Tier 1 and each have 1 ring. Flacco and Manning are Tier 2 and each have 2 rings because of the teams put around them.

There is far too much discussion about one player here in the ultimate team sport.

I appreciate your thoughtfulness in your post. However Dak is better than 98% of QBs in his first 3 years than they are

Gangsta Spanksta · Jan 16, 2019

Willfreedom909 said:
He does everything else far above average except for that deep ball. It’s not even that it’s bad it’s that he never learned timing from his coaches causing his throws to be off.

This is why we need a real qb coach

Dak has more issues than just accuracy. He has bad footwork. Hold's the ball to long in the pocket. Bad Pocket Awarnesss. And I can't remember the last time he did an audible. Some of these thing he regressed in, because in 2016 I thought he had good pocket awarness, but he was using his instincts much more back then.

Gangsta Spanksta · Jan 16, 2019

rocyaice said:
Well...he definitely was his rookie year. So there goes that prediction.

Yup that he was. Let's hope though, that Dak did not Peek in his rookie season.

Toruk_Makto · Jan 16, 2019

Is this a serious thread?

But sure I'll play along.

If Dak was way more accurate , with a way better arm, could process defense faster and more consistently and was more risk seeking all of which would be necessary to be a top deep ball thrower then yes he be a top qb.

atlantacowboy · Jan 16, 2019

Absolutely

cowboyblue22 · Jan 16, 2019

i am not sure where dak is really he wasn't the reason the team lost to L A and his last game of the year against the giants was pretty impressive I guess we will see next year I did think that he made some improvement the last part of the season

black label · Jan 16, 2019

Willfreedom909 said:
Dak had 13 before Moore retired try harder

Were lucky this scrub got 6

You want to fire a qb coach because the scrub went from 13 wins to 11? Lol

Dextor Clinkscales · Jan 16, 2019

GimmeTheBall! · Jan 16, 2019

atlantacowboy said:
I don't think Dak will ever be considered even a top 10 QB.

But lets talk 15-20 and we got a conversation, bloke!

TheMarathonContinues · Jan 16, 2019

Gangsta Spanksta said:
Yup that he was. Let's hope though, that Dak did not Peek in his rookie season.

Yeah I sure hope not.......

InTheZone · Jan 16, 2019

CouchCoach said:
No, he has more problems than that. He's inconsistent on the intermediate passes, holds the ball too long and does not have the vision necessary to be a Tier 1 QB. Brees and Wilson are shorter by 3" and see the field better than he does.

It's like that?

InTheZone · Jan 16, 2019

CF74 said:
What Mega contract?

someone said he has 5 years to show what he can do. I'm assuming he gets a mega contract (so 7 years by my definition, lets not talk how much per year) in the offseason, meaning he has 2 years left before he reaches 5 years played. And we're stuck with what we know at that point for another 5 years.

InTheZone · Jan 16, 2019

Willfreedom909 said:
Dak had 13 before Moore retired try harder

so what we're saying is that Dak doesn't actually need a REAL QB coach, despite the defenders whining left and right he could benefit from one, because we're getting 11 wins regardless. But Dak apparently has a degenerative QB disorder that makes him forget how to QB 13 wins unless he has a REAL coach?

CWR · Jan 16, 2019

Lol, I just had to click on this and go straight to the last page to watch the train wreck. :popcorn:

conner01 · Jan 16, 2019

StuckMojo said:

Best in the league
Hit a few deep balls and he’s Tom Brady and Mahommes in one

conner01 · Jan 16, 2019

PAPPYDOG said:
Alex Smith is Better.....better pocket poise and avoids doing the Dak Panic chicken without a head dance....

I bet Dak can beat him in a foot race today

buybuydandavis · Jan 16, 2019

Willfreedom909 said:
He does everything else far above average except for that deep ball. It’s not even that it’s bad it’s that he never learned timing from his coaches causing his throws to be off.

This is why we need a real qb coach

Dak is a tough one. He reminds me of Terrance.

I look at the numbers, and he look's good. But he's not passing the eyeball test on the field, at least how we use him. And when I think about the *context* of his play, the numbers don't look as shiny.

Both Terrance and Dak were dared by other teams to beat them. And *they* didn't beat them, whether or not the team did.

I'll have faith in Dak when he beats teams with his arm when they dare him to. Much of that problem is with Linehan, but I haven't seen Dak just play like "If that's all the coverage you're going to put on that guy, I'll take that all day long and you won't be able to stop me."

Section446 · Jan 16, 2019

He's hit his ceiling.

Brooksey · Jan 16, 2019

Is this post for real? Dak has athletic gifts but so does Cam Newton who's a waste of talent, loser IMO. Dak has improved his footwork and his accuracy in the 2nd half of the season, his long ball is the least of my worries. Question is does he have it upstairs to process what the defense is doing post-snap in under two seconds? He doesn't right now, wake me up when he does. Brees, Brady on another level sorry homer.

conner01 · Jan 16, 2019

Section446 said:
He's hit his ceiling.

I don’t think he’s hit his ceiling
I don’t think he’s ever gonna be best in the league either
I don’t know that he can reach the top 10 let alone best
But I think he is improving and since cooper was added he’s played fairly good
I’m interested in seeing what happens with a full camp with cooper and a second year Gallup

If Dak improves his deep ball is he the best QB in the league?

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