First chosen coach to jump wins?

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I think it's clear where Jerry and Stephen are going with this, and it makes perfect sense.

They are not going to extend Jason Garrett this offseason. That's smart.

That makes it nearly impossible to attract a sought-after offensive coordinator, and even harder to construct a coaching staff around a new scheme on such a short leash.

So, Garrett reclaims the play-calling duties with the young mind of Kellen Moore, whom Dak really likes and trusts, stepping into a pseudo offensive coordinator role. Garrett gets one more chance to earn his spot. It's pretty much Super Bowl or bust, or very close to that. He hopes.

Meanwhile, Jerry and Stephen wait.

Sean Payton has sons in Dallas and a history with the team. He remains close with the Joneses. The timing has never lined up, but the mutual interest seems logical and apparent.

Lincoln Riley resides up north and also converses with Jerry on a semi-regular basis. That relationship is blooming quickly.

The moment Brees retires, Payton will quit shortly after. If not for a horrible no-call yesterday, that Super Bowl might have been the swan song for both. Now, it's up in the air. Emotions are fresh.

Up north, Riley loves his current gig, which is a great one. Paved for him. However, the temptation of the NFL is strong and will likely overcome him sooner or later. That's the true proving ground.

So, there's a semi-standing offer for both Payton and Riley. It's dangling in front of both like a $10 million carrot.

Perhaps all they need to do is ask. First one to jump wins.
 
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I actually agree. The Ginger clapper was a nice experiment for awhile but Jones is getting tired of his toy and will bring in someone else unless Garrett shocks the world and figures out how to advance further in a ridiculously stacked NFC.
 

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I think it's clear where Jerry and Stephen are going with this, and it makes perfect sense.

They are not going to extend Jason Garrett this offseason. That's smart.

That makes it nearly impossible to attract a sought-after offensive coordinator, and even harder to construct a coaching staff around a new scheme on such a short leash.

So, Garrett reclaims the play-calling duties with the young mind of Kellen Moore, whom Dak really likes and trusts, stepping into a pseudo offensive coordinator role. Garrett gets one more chance to earn his spot. It's pretty much Super Bowl or bust, or very close to that. He hopes.

Meanwhile, Jerry and Stephen wait.

Sean Payton has sons in Dallas and a history with the team. He remains close with the Joneses. The timing has never lined up, but the mutual interest seems logical and apparent.

Lincoln Riley resides up north and also converses with Jerry on a semi-regular basis. That relationship is blooming quickly.

The moment Brees retires, Payton will quit shortly after. If not for a call yesterday, that Super Bowl might have been the swan song for both. Now, it's up in the air. Emotions are fresh.

Up north, Riley loves his current gig, which is a great one. Paved for him. However, the temptation of the NFL is strong and will likely overcome him sooner or later. That's the true proving ground.

So, there's a semi-standing offer for both Payton and Riley. It's dangling in front of both like a $10 million carrot.

Perhaps all they need to do is ask. First one to jump wins.


Usually lame duck coaches never do well.

I just hate that next year is basically a waste because they refuse to identify the problems with their offense and they will bring in another puppet to run the same garbage Linehan was running.

Every year with a young Ezekiel Elliot is precious and a coach that's been here for 10+ years that can't get past the divisional round and a offense that gives us no advantages just makes this next season seem hopeless.


The fans are getting put through the ringer with Garrett and everyone knows that the coach isn't good enough to get us to a championship level.

Sean McVay doing what he has done as a 32 year old should've ended any debate about Garrett needing all this time to develop as a coach. He's just not good enough and doesn't under stand the importance of X's and O's modern day football.
 

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I think it's clear where Jerry and Stephen are going with this, and it makes perfect sense.

They are not going to extend Jason Garrett this offseason. That's smart.

That makes it nearly impossible to attract a sought-after offensive coordinator, and even harder to construct a coaching staff around a new scheme on such a short leash.

So, Garrett reclaims the play-calling duties with the young mind of Kellen Moore, whom Dak really likes and trusts, stepping into a pseudo offensive coordinator role. Garrett gets one more chance to earn his spot. It's pretty much Super Bowl or bust, or very close to that. He hopes.

Meanwhile, Jerry and Stephen wait.

Sean Payton has sons in Dallas and a history with the team. He remains close with the Joneses. The timing has never lined up, but the mutual interest seems logical and apparent.

Lincoln Riley resides up north and also converses with Jerry on a semi-regular basis. That relationship is blooming quickly.

The moment Brees retires, Payton will quit shortly after. If not for a call yesterday, that Super Bowl might have been the swan song for both. Now, it's up in the air. Emotions are fresh.

Up north, Riley loves his current gig, which is a great one. Paved for him. However, the temptation of the NFL is strong and will likely overcome him sooner or later. That's the true proving ground.

So, there's a semi-standing offer for both Payton and Riley. It's dangling in front of both like a $10 million carrot.

Perhaps all they need to do is ask. First one to jump wins.
more wishful thinking than reality
 

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Usually lame duck coaches never do well.

I just hate that next year is basically a waste because they refuse to identify the problems with their offense and they will bring in another puppet to run the same garbage Linehan was running.

Every year with a young Ezekiel Elliot is precious and a coach that's been here for 10+ years that can't get past the divisional round and a offense that gives us no advantages just makes this next season seem hopeless.


The fans are getting put through the ringer with Garrett and everyone knows that the coach isn't good enough to get us to a championship level.

Sean McVay doing what he has done as a 32 year old should've ended any debate about Garrett needing all this time to develop as a coach. He's just not good enough and doesn't under stand the importance of X's and O's modern day football.

Linehan was running Garrett's offense, not his own. Linehan HATES running the football. Ever.

Jerry is doing this delicately, but I think he's trying to gently escort Garrett out. He just gave him the official rope to hang himself.

Like you, I wish he'd just do it.

But Jerry is only comfortable with hiring a few head coaches. I think Payton and Riley both fit the bill.
 

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I think it's clear where Jerry and Stephen are going with this, and it makes perfect sense.

They are not going to extend Jason Garrett this offseason. That's smart.

That makes it nearly impossible to attract a sought-after offensive coordinator, and even harder to construct a coaching staff around a new scheme on such a short leash.

So, Garrett reclaims the play-calling duties with the young mind of Kellen Moore, whom Dak really likes and trusts, stepping into a pseudo offensive coordinator role. Garrett gets one more chance to earn his spot. It's pretty much Super Bowl or bust, or very close to that. He hopes.

Meanwhile, Jerry and Stephen wait.

Sean Payton has sons in Dallas and a history with the team. He remains close with the Joneses. The timing has never lined up, but the mutual interest seems logical and apparent.

Lincoln Riley resides up north and also converses with Jerry on a semi-regular basis. That relationship is blooming quickly.

The moment Brees retires, Payton will quit shortly after. If not for a call yesterday, that Super Bowl might have been the swan song for both. Now, it's up in the air. Emotions are fresh.

Up north, Riley loves his current gig, which is a great one. Paved for him. However, the temptation of the NFL is strong and will likely overcome him sooner or later. That's the true proving ground.

So, there's a semi-standing offer for both Payton and Riley. It's dangling in front of both like a $10 million carrot.

Perhaps all they need to do is ask. First one to jump wins.


is it too much to ask to have payton as HC, Riley as OC and Richard as DC? yes, oh well, had to try
 

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Linehan was running Garrett's offense, not his own. Linehan HATES running the football. Ever.

Jerry is doing this delicately, but I think he's trying to gently escort Garrett out. He just gave him the official rope to hang himself.

Like you, I wish he'd just do it.

But Jerry is only comfortable with hiring a few head coaches. I think Payton and Riley both fit the bill.


I agree on Linehan but Garrett has already failed as a playcaller.

The playcalling with Romo was awful and Romo was just great at overcoming it.

Linehan was brought in and he gave this team an identity. With Garrett we never had an identity.

Dallas needs to do what it takes to go get the best offensive minded coach RIGHT NOW.

It's time to break out of the Jeff Fisher / Marvin Lewis era in Dallas.
 

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I agree on Linehan but Garrett has already failed as a playcaller.

The playcalling with Romo was awful and Romo was just great at overcoming it.

Linehan was brought in and he gave this team an identity. With Garrett we never had an identity.

Dallas needs to do what it takes to go get the best offensive minded coach RIGHT NOW.

It's time to break out of the Jeff Fisher / Marvin Lewis era in Dallas.

These guys play hard for Garrett. They love him. There's no denying that.

But it's time.

What I'm saying is, I think Jerry does know it's time, too. However, he's got two guys in mind, and they aren't available yet.

So, we get more Garrett until they are.
 

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is it too much to ask to have payton as HC, Riley as OC and Richard as DC? yes, oh well, had to try

Riley would never take a coordinator job. Far better to be a college head coach than an OC in the NFL.

Besides, that would be redundant. You hire Payton for his offense. Riley runs a different offense.
 

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I think it's clear where Jerry and Stephen are going with this, and it makes perfect sense.

They are not going to extend Jason Garrett this offseason. That's smart.

That makes it nearly impossible to attract a sought-after offensive coordinator, and even harder to construct a coaching staff around a new scheme on such a short leash.

So, Garrett reclaims the play-calling duties with the young mind of Kellen Moore, whom Dak really likes and trusts, stepping into a pseudo offensive coordinator role. Garrett gets one more chance to earn his spot. It's pretty much Super Bowl or bust, or very close to that. He hopes.

Meanwhile, Jerry and Stephen wait.

Sean Payton has sons in Dallas and a history with the team. He remains close with the Joneses. The timing has never lined up, but the mutual interest seems logical and apparent.

Lincoln Riley resides up north and also converses with Jerry on a semi-regular basis. That relationship is blooming quickly.

The moment Brees retires, Payton will quit shortly after. If not for a horrible no-call yesterday, that Super Bowl might have been the swan song for both. Now, it's up in the air. Emotions are fresh.

Up north, Riley loves his current gig, which is a great one. Paved for him. However, the temptation of the NFL is strong and will likely overcome him sooner or later. That's the true proving ground.

So, there's a semi-standing offer for both Payton and Riley. It's dangling in front of both like a $10 million carrot.

Perhaps all they need to do is ask. First one to jump wins.

That's a wonderful fairy tale, but I don't buy it. This is just more puppet hiring in a puppet company. Garrett is NEVER going anywhere.
 

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I think it's clear where Jerry and Stephen are going with this, and it makes perfect sense.

They are not going to extend Jason Garrett this offseason. That's smart.

That makes it nearly impossible to attract a sought-after offensive coordinator, and even harder to construct a coaching staff around a new scheme on such a short leash.

So, Garrett reclaims the play-calling duties with the young mind of Kellen Moore, whom Dak really likes and trusts, stepping into a pseudo offensive coordinator role. Garrett gets one more chance to earn his spot. It's pretty much Super Bowl or bust, or very close to that. He hopes.

Meanwhile, Jerry and Stephen wait.

Sean Payton has sons in Dallas and a history with the team. He remains close with the Joneses. The timing has never lined up, but the mutual interest seems logical and apparent.

Lincoln Riley resides up north and also converses with Jerry on a semi-regular basis. That relationship is blooming quickly.

The moment Brees retires, Payton will quit shortly after. If not for a horrible no-call yesterday, that Super Bowl might have been the swan song for both. Now, it's up in the air. Emotions are fresh.

Up north, Riley loves his current gig, which is a great one. Paved for him. However, the temptation of the NFL is strong and will likely overcome him sooner or later. That's the true proving ground.

So, there's a semi-standing offer for both Payton and Riley. It's dangling in front of both like a $10 million carrot.

Perhaps all they need to do is ask. First one to jump wins.
While this makes sense, your dealing with Ego's of a crochety old man and a successful (out spoken) HC who the Saints have given free rein to do what he wants over his tenure. The only attraction for a very good coach to come to this job is the $$. When you have enough $$, you want power and control. Won't get those last 2 aspects (power and control) coaching the DC.
 

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Riley would never take a coordinator job. Far better to be a college head coach than an OC in the NFL.

Besides, that would be redundant. You hire Payton for his offense. Riley runs a different offense.

I agree, but ol' Pantsy can dream, can't he??
 

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I agree, but ol' Pantsy can dream, can't he??

I'd honestly rather have Riley. He's done it twice in two years with two different quarterbacks.

What is Sean Payton without Drew Brees?
 

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I'd honestly rather have Riley. He's done it twice in two years with two different quarterbacks.

What is Sean Payton without Drew Brees?

The answer to that was having his play-calling duties taken away from him and one foot out the door in NY.
 

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I think it's clear where Jerry and Stephen are going with this, and it makes perfect sense.

They are not going to extend Jason Garrett this offseason. That's smart.

That makes it nearly impossible to attract a sought-after offensive coordinator, and even harder to construct a coaching staff around a new scheme on such a short leash.

So, Garrett reclaims the play-calling duties with the young mind of Kellen Moore, whom Dak really likes and trusts, stepping into a pseudo offensive coordinator role. Garrett gets one more chance to earn his spot. It's pretty much Super Bowl or bust, or very close to that. He hopes.

Meanwhile, Jerry and Stephen wait.

Sean Payton has sons in Dallas and a history with the team. He remains close with the Joneses. The timing has never lined up, but the mutual interest seems logical and apparent.

Lincoln Riley resides up north and also converses with Jerry on a semi-regular basis. That relationship is blooming quickly.

The moment Brees retires, Payton will quit shortly after. If not for a horrible no-call yesterday, that Super Bowl might have been the swan song for both. Now, it's up in the air. Emotions are fresh.

Up north, Riley loves his current gig, which is a great one. Paved for him. However, the temptation of the NFL is strong and will likely overcome him sooner or later. That's the true proving ground.

So, there's a semi-standing offer for both Payton and Riley. It's dangling in front of both like a $10 million carrot.

Perhaps all they need to do is ask. First one to jump wins.
Bump.
 

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I think it's clear where Jerry and Stephen are going with this, and it makes perfect sense.

They are not going to extend Jason Garrett this offseason. That's smart.

That makes it nearly impossible to attract a sought-after offensive coordinator, and even harder to construct a coaching staff around a new scheme on such a short leash.

So, Garrett reclaims the play-calling duties with the young mind of Kellen Moore, whom Dak really likes and trusts, stepping into a pseudo offensive coordinator role. Garrett gets one more chance to earn his spot. It's pretty much Super Bowl or bust, or very close to that. He hopes.

Meanwhile, Jerry and Stephen wait.

Sean Payton has sons in Dallas and a history with the team. He remains close with the Joneses. The timing has never lined up, but the mutual interest seems logical and apparent.

Lincoln Riley resides up north and also converses with Jerry on a semi-regular basis. That relationship is blooming quickly.

The moment Brees retires, Payton will quit shortly after. If not for a horrible no-call yesterday, that Super Bowl might have been the swan song for both. Now, it's up in the air. Emotions are fresh.

Up north, Riley loves his current gig, which is a great one. Paved for him. However, the temptation of the NFL is strong and will likely overcome him sooner or later. That's the true proving ground.

So, there's a semi-standing offer for both Payton and Riley. It's dangling in front of both like a $10 million carrot.

Perhaps all they need to do is ask. First one to jump wins.
Do you have proof that Riley is talking to Jones? Because I'm not sure I believe that. He is VERY happy at Oklahoma .
 
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