Now it makes sense about hiring Kellen

Rockport · Feb 1, 2019

CouchCoach said:
The talk about Moore's football acumen began before Linehan. His former HC, Chris Peterson, said he had the best football mind of any QB he'd seen and Gruden was singing his praises as well.

The challenge for Moore is the expectations for many expecting him to work miracles and not considering the time it took McVay, Nagy and even Pederson to become savvy with the NFL offense. Moore is there for a couple of reasons, he's cheap and wants the job and he can't be much worse than Linehan was.

But if I am a HC in my contract year with the expectations set where they are, do I want a neophyte as my OC?

Being cheap has absolutely nothing to do with it.

CouchCoach · Feb 1, 2019

OmerV said:
You are talking about when Jerry made comments, not when Romo got hurt. The injuries that cost Romo most of 2015 and 2016 were after Fred and Martin were on the team, along with Tyron.

Yes, Booger made those comments during the contract negotiation and things seem to stall after that. I think his agent jumped on that.

ufcrules1 · Feb 1, 2019

kskboys said:
I do. Because it's a change, and we desperately needed to get away from Linehan.

I have no idea if Moore can be an OC, but at least it's not Linehan!!!!!

It's not linehan we need to get away from it is Jerry. Moore isn't going to do jack squat here.This will be another failed year and JG will get fired and replaced with another pupped coach and it will be more of the same. 23 straight years now and only one common denominator.

CouchCoach · Feb 1, 2019

Rockport said:
Being cheap has absolutely nothing to do with it.

The combination of cheap and not holding coaching in high regard does though.

Rockport · Feb 1, 2019

glimmerman said:
JJ and JG are a match for each other. JG let’s JJ micromanage and they are both stuck in the glory years of the 1990’s. They think this playbook will get to and win the SB. They live in a time we had stars at every position. Worst player on our Offense was Alvin Harper. It dont work in today’s salary cap. JJ don’t seem to micromanage the other coaches beside the HC, so perhaps if JG wants to keep his job then he let’s Moore update and upgrade some things. Actual wrinkles in our scheme.

You and most others in this thread were whining about Linehan. Now that he’s gone you’re whining about the new OC. Just as I predicted. It wouldn’t have mattered who Jerry hired you subspecies were going to whine.

Rockport · Feb 1, 2019

CouchCoach said:
The combination of cheap and not holding coaching in high regard does though.

Again, cheap has nothing at all to do with it.

_sturt_ · Feb 1, 2019

@CouchCoach that's not the point I was addressing.... I was responding to this idea that we FANS can/should take some comfort in the kind words said about Moore.

To YOUR point, I would just add that the way this has played out, with Moore self-evidently being Plan B, C or D, the Jones aren't all that confident in this decision, either.... they began preparing for the possibility that it might be the decision that had to be made on the same day that we first began hearing rumblings that Moore's name had surfaced... they're in hype mode right now, but the way it played out says this wasn't the way they were hoping to see the episode end.

Pantone282C · Feb 1, 2019

CouchCoach said:
How much do you think Booger is paying Moore as opposed to an OC that might want to be considered for HC, if Richard is not in line for that?

Could be that Richard is holding auditions for his OC if he becomes HC next year. Richard's comments about Dallas being a, "Class organization," has not received much airplay or forum discussion. I find that to be oddly different than the usual over reactive opinions about every little utterance by anyone associated with the Cowboys.

kskboys · Feb 1, 2019

ufcrules1 said:
It's not linehan we need to get away from it is Jerry. Moore isn't going to do jack squat here.This will be another failed year and JG will get fired and replaced with another pupped coach and it will be more of the same. 23 straight years now and only one common denominator.

No doubt, the biggest problem is Jerry.

However, the only hope we have is that someone Jerry considers "his guy" can get it done. My hope is that Moore can get Jerry to "go against his instincts". Because that is what it's going to take to advance to the next level, a heady coach who can get the right players/schemes in here to have a chance. Can Moore do it? IDK, but Linehan dammm sure could not. So, IMO, at least we have some hope in Moore.

Vtwin · Feb 1, 2019

If someone posted two years ago that Moore would be OC in 2019 they would have gotten laughed out of here.

Moore ticks all the boxes to be Jerry's next head coach. Most importantly the, Jerry's guy, box. All he needs is a year of experience at a higher level position.

FWIW. I just five minutes ago heard Jerry say in response to JG's two division championships and regular season record, "its not good enough". He then repeated it for emphasis.

OmerV · Feb 1, 2019

CouchCoach said:
Yes, Booger made those comments during the contract negotiation and things seem to stall after that. I think his agent jumped on that.

The comment I responded to wasn't about when Jerry made comments, it was about the idea that Romo only got injured because the team didn't put a good O-Line in front of him.

CouchCoach · Feb 1, 2019

glimmerman said:
If I am JG then I am letting him instal new wrinkles and updating this playbook. We will have different situational playcalling now. JG has to know this team can’t get over the hump. If we make the playoffs then JJ will have no major reason to fire JG. Your making the playoffs and if we get in a win another playoff game or 2 them he is extended.

And we still don't know if Garrett wants to continue and the HC of the DC.

glimm, what happened a couple of weeks back when not only did Garrett have to crawfish on Linehan staying but he was fired on that following Friday might have been a little too much taking one for the team.

Do we think that Garrett, through his agent, doesn't know what type of commodity he would be on the open market? One man's trash is another's treasure. And wouldn't it be fun if Gruden gets the 3:10 to Yuma out of D.C after this season and Garrett steps off in D.C.? That's my dream scenario because I love messes.

glimmerman · Feb 1, 2019

Rockport said:
You and most others in this thread were whining about Linehan. Now that he’s gone you’re whining about the new OC. Just as I predicted. It wouldn’t have mattered who Jerry hired you subspecies were going to whine.

Where at in my post am I whining about Moore? I am happy for the change. If he sucks then yes I will whine. Until then we will see.

kskboys · Feb 1, 2019

CouchCoach said:
The combination of cheap and not holding coaching in high regard does though.

Jerry isn't cheap. Not even in the most loosest definition of the term!!!!!!!!

Jerry wants credit, has nothing to do w/ money. He's consistently overpaid people trying to get it done where he head credit.

The sole reason Jerry hasn't hired a big name is due to him not getting credit if that hire succeeds. He's strangely obsessed w/ this little facet, nothing else matters to him. He's brought Moore up from his NFL birth, and Kitna hasn't been doing anything anywhere, not that I'm aware of. So, these are his guys, just so he can get credit.

CouchCoach · Feb 1, 2019

OmerV said:
The comment I responded to wasn't about when Jerry made comments, it was about the idea that Romo only got injured because the team didn't put a good O-Line in front of him.

That was the feeling both Booger & Son delivered with their comments. Son admitted they'd not given him enough help after taking one of the OL in the 1st.

To me it's not about that at all because other QB's are successful behind <great OL's. It was Romo's style of play and holding the ball waiting to make a play and not willing to give up on one that got him injured. Except that last one, that was hearing footsteps. In preseason, any QB that gets injured, he's careless. Hell, ground the ball, who cares?

glimmerman · Feb 1, 2019

_sturt_ said:
Actually, we missed Frederick in a big way. And though he wasn't the same Jason Witten, in the red zone, we missed him in a big way there, too. Once we had another viable #1 WR, it helped, but we never reached the levels reached in 2016... and the difference was personnel.

Playoffs, our offense won vs. SEA. Late, our defense almost made it another heartbreaker. And then had our defense merely stopped the Rams from scoring and, thus also, given our offense 2-3 more possessions... that's a different game. Can't legitimately lay our failure to get over the playoff hump in Linehan's lap.

I can’t disagree. Fredbeard was missed big time and Witten sprung the retirement on us without a lot of time to replace him. I simply believe that a change is and was needed to get us more points on the board. Score more points in a game like the rams game early on and maybe they have to abandon the run some. Changes the way the games played.

CouchCoach · Feb 1, 2019

glimmerman said:
Where at in my post am I whining about Moore? I am happy for the change. If he sucks then yes I will whine. Until then we will see.

No, you must whine it forward.

basel90 · Feb 1, 2019

But is Sean Payton available after next year ? He is signed until end of 2020 isn’t he ?

Sydla · Feb 1, 2019

Rockport said:
You and most others in this thread were whining about Linehan. Now that he’s gone you’re whining about the new OC. Just as I predicted. It wouldn’t have mattered who Jerry hired you subspecies were going to whine.

This is BS. But not shocking coming from the board's biggest BSer.

Rajveer · Feb 1, 2019

ItzKelz said:
They didn't extend Jason the last time he was on the last year of his contract. It is how they do business. But nice conspiracy theory

Last time he bounced back with a 12-4 season and won coach of the year. I think this year it is NFC championship game or you are gone regardless of the season record. I believe I heard Jerry say somewhere that just making the playoffs is not enough anymore.

Now it makes sense about hiring Kellen

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