All who watch this Super Bowl will destroy what football should be

gjkoeppen

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The referee who resides near the LA area, with total attention focused on the receiver getting blasted, did not throw the flag. It is not controversial, because "controversial" that implies it is mildly reasonable NOT to throw a flag. It was clearly a penalty, without excuse, completely undisputed by any football fan, that the flag should have been thrown. 99% chance the Saints win if that penalty is called, when the Rams have no timeouts.

The eyeball test, for those paying attention, clearly shows the game outcome was changed. End of discussion. If you endorse fixed games, then make your choice about what to watch, it's a free country.

Gee were you this upset when Jaylon Smith got away with an obvious helmet to helmet hit along the sidelines to saints RB Alvin Kamara on a 3rd down and forced a punt? Get over it. There have been blatant blown calls since the NFL started and will continue. WHY, because NOBODY goes through life without making mistakes. Well except for the fans who continue to whine who think they never make mistakes so they can't get over it when a ref does. BTW you're right on the saints would have won that game if the flag was thrown but you're are WRONG on one thing, minor as it is, the rams had 1 time out left at the time. So gee you make mistakes, right in the middle of your own rant but you can't let it go that a ref or group of refs made a mistake.
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phildadon86

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Did you read the article?

"According to New York Giants owner and NFL competition committee member, John Mara, the league reached a unanimous agreement that it should be ruled a completion in the future."
Again, Mara is talking at the point where the competition committee changed the rule so when the rule goes into effect in the future (the 2018 season) then catches like the Dez catch will be called catches not that the play in 2014 was a catch. Y'all gotta read past the headlines. They're built to get a reaction to the point where people just run with it without actually reading what the article said. I remember that thread where overly emotional posters were like chickens with their heads cut off saying the NFL admitted they made a mistake in 2014. They didn't. The posters just didn't read what was actually happening because they were triggered by things all over again.
They changed the original rule after 2014, and then changed it back.
 

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They changed the original rule after 2014, and then changed it back.

The same rule that was in effect in 2014 was the same rule that snakebit Jesse James in 2017. Don't know where you're getting that they changed the rule after 2014. They didn't. They only changed the wording in 2015 to try to help fans to understand it but the rule was exactly the same until they lifted the "going to the ground" portion trumping the 3-step catch portion just this past season.
 

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so much drama over something people have absolutly zero control over.

bad calls happen. get over it. watch the superbowl or dont watch, doesnt matter really. its all entertainment.
 

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Gee were you this upset when Jaylon Smith got away with an obvious helmet to helmet hit along the sidelines to saints RB Alvin Kamara on a 3rd down and forced a punt? Get over it. There have been blatant blown calls since the NFL started and will continue. WHY, because NOBODY goes through life without making mistakes. Well except for the fans who continue to whine who think they never make mistakes so they can't get over it when a ref does. BTW you're right on the saints would have won that game if the flag was thrown but you're are WRONG on one thing, minor as it is, the rams had 1 time out left at the time. So gee you make mistakes, right in the middle of your own rant but you can't let it go that a ref or group of refs made a mistake.
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Pass interference has been around forever, helmet to helmet is new. Getting an ages old rule correctly is expected, properly and evenly enforcing a rule that is new always has problems. At that point in the game, there was still enough time left, as well as both teams had timeouts remaining. The game was not decided by running less than 2 minutes off the clock and kicking a field goal.

Even with the one timeout that the Rams had, the Saints would have kicked it with 20 seconds left, and even fewer depending on how long it takes for refs to respot the ball and start the 40 second clock between 2nd and 3rd down. So, 5 seconds left for the kick is a game ender, even with the timeout.
 

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so much drama over something people have absolutly zero control over.

bad calls happen. get over it. watch the superbowl or dont watch, doesnt matter really. its all entertainment.

It's not longer entertainment when you know the NFL has influenced the game to benefit the new stadium in LA. It's business. I don't applaud business moves.
 

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Pass interference has been around forever, helmet to helmet is new. Getting an ages old rule correctly is expected, properly and evenly enforcing a rule that is new always has problems. At that point in the game, there was still enough time left, as well as both teams had timeouts remaining. The game was not decided by running less than 2 minutes off the clock and kicking a field goal.

Even with the one timeout that the Rams had, the Saints would have kicked it with 20 seconds left, and even fewer depending on how long it takes for refs to respot the ball and start the 40 second clock between 2nd and 3rd down. So, 5 seconds left for the kick is a game ender, even with the timeout.

I see you want to pick and choose what obviously missed calls to whine about. Gee there has never been obviously blown calls on pass interference before this obvious one. What's a new rule, just new that season? The helmet to helmet rule has now been around for 5 years now. Get over it. I hope the next time you make a mistake people whine about it for weeks and weeks so you feel how foolish it is.
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Ahhh the good old conspiracy theory. Lol if the nfl was dictating the teams going to the super bowl this would not be what they wanted out of 32 teams. If they were juat dictating the final 4, this would be the absolute worst match up for them. KC VS rams, KC vs saints, NE vs saints all would've been better, more value and intriguing match ups. This is pretty boring super bowl when it comes to story lines. Then you add that the bad call has taken up the majority of the discussion the past 2 week's, That's not what the NFL wants.
 

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I see you want to pick and choose what obviously missed calls to whine about. Gee there has never been obviously blown calls on pass interference before this obvious one. What's a new rule, just new that season? The helmet to helmet rule has now been around for 5 years now. Get over it. I hope the next time you make a mistake people whine about it for weeks and weeks so you feel how foolish it is.
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Imagine yourself taking your family to the beach, and as you start walking through the crowd, you see a broken bottle in several pieces is sticking up out of the sand.

Are you the kind of person who would clean up the glass yourself, in order to improve the beach? Or would you just shrug your shoulders and say... "Ah, that's just the way things are, there's nothing I can do about it. Sometimes, glass bottles are broken at the beach, deal with it."

I'm the kind of person who would stop what I'm doing and remove the broken bottle, and make the beach better for everyone.
 

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Gee were you this upset when Jaylon Smith got away with an obvious helmet to helmet hit along the sidelines to saints RB Alvin Kamara on a 3rd down and forced a punt? Get over it. There have been blatant blown calls since the NFL started and will continue. WHY, because NOBODY goes through life without making mistakes. Well except for the fans who continue to whine who think they never make mistakes so they can't get over it when a ref does. BTW you're right on the saints would have won that game if the flag was thrown but you're are WRONG on one thing, minor as it is, the rams had 1 time out left at the time. So gee you make mistakes, right in the middle of your own rant but you can't let it go that a ref or group of refs made a mistake.
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Yes bad calls happen all the time. But it's also about the timing of when in the game along with the severity of the call. I don't expect every play to be called perfectly. But I do expect THAT to get called 100% of the time. Every time.

Nobody is saying people don't make mistakes. Of course they do. People also lose jobs and organizations change rules and procedures to avoid the same mistakes, and that's what needs to happen here.
 

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Well..... Brady is going to take the Rams defense apart. Place your bets.

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They said he caught it by today's rules when they were showing examples of how the new rule would apply, not back in 2014.
it was still a catch back then. The rule left too much judgement by the official to swing it the other way if they wanted or saw it that way at the time. Because Dez was tripped they decided there was never a football move, when clearly it was. They found their way to not give him the catch despite the initial ruling being a catch. There's no more to discuss about this.
 

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it was still a catch back then. The rule left too much judgement by the official to swing it the other way if they wanted or saw it that way at the time. Because Dez was tripped they decided there was never a football move, when clearly it was. They found their way to not give him the catch despite the initial ruling being a catch. There's no more to discuss about this.
It was a catch then and according the league office, it FOR SURE is a catch now.
 

MarcusRock

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it was still a catch back then. The rule left too much judgement by the official to swing it the other way if they wanted or saw it that way at the time. Because Dez was tripped they decided there was never a football move, when clearly it was. They found their way to not give him the catch despite the initial ruling being a catch. There's no more to discuss about this.

Don't know who "they" is but the officials on the field were fine to roll with the play as called. Green Bay had to challenge to force a review. Should they not have reviewed it to get it right? Ironic having to ask that question in this particular thread. What the replay showed that the official on the field was shielded from seeing was that the ball hit the ground. As soon as replay sees that, you have to call the going to the ground rule into play where you have to control the ball through the ground. Dez clearly didn't do that by loosing complete grip of it at one point. So the official on the field wasn't wrong for what he saw but replay was there to make sure the right call was made just like people are clamoring for now. Funny that.

Don't know where you're going with Dez being tripped but the rule stated "with or without contact by an opponent," so the rule don't care. There was no "clear" football move either. We all know Dez wanted to lunge but he never executed like you see with full extension of the ball in a classic lunge, which would have undone the ground rule had he still lost the ball. Think Ertz from last year's Super Bowl. Dez' "lunge" was nowhere near that level of execution. The only people who call what Dez did a proper lunge are those who really, really, really wanted it to be. But it just wasn't.
 

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Goodell, Money, too many rules have already ruined this one great game. Now, it's an entertainment factor.
 

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Imagine yourself taking your family to the beach, and as you start walking through the crowd, you see a broken bottle in several pieces is sticking up out of the sand.

Are you the kind of person who would clean up the glass yourself, in order to improve the beach? Or would you just shrug your shoulders and say... "Ah, that's just the way things are, there's nothing I can do about it. Sometimes, glass bottles are broken at the beach, deal with it."

I'm the kind of person who would stop what I'm doing and remove the broken bottle, and make the beach better for everyone.

Then stop watching the NFL. You seem to think it is rigged. I know if I thought it was rigged I would not waste my time knowing the games were fixed. it was a bad call, I don't think anyone questions that but I think your trying to make this out to be more than it is
 

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it will probably be viewed by 200+ million world wide. I doubt if anyone tries to boycott it will have any impact at all. The machine keeps chugging along... with or without the disgruntled fans.
 
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