Should QB's be limited how much they make?

GORICO · Feb 14, 2019

StarBoyz83 said:
Yes. dak should make 16-18 mil a year tops.

i so agree....come on man...even one year at 15-18 mil and one is so set for life....plus anyone who stays in Dallas will have a better job after football especially if we win some more super bowls

GORICO · Feb 14, 2019

Hardline said:
I believe in the free market.
A player is worth what an owner is willing to pay.

And as a fan of free markets there shouldn't be a salary cap.

Hardline--- Oh man no salary cap....can you imagine some of the contracts??...crazy ones like 40-50 million a year at least....but if we do have a salary cap and i think we should so the teams in some cities who cannot compete with the money of some can still put out a competitive team....but i think there needs to be a ceiling on how much any one individual can make so as not to cripple rest of team and then take away from being competitive?

GORICO · Feb 14, 2019

sean10mm said:
You want to legislate how much owners can pay people, when the owners are the ones who legislate how much they want to pay people, and they're the ones already deciding how much to pay people. It's like asking foxes to pass a law against foxes eating too many chickens at once because it gives them indigestion. .

sean i agree---- owners are all too filthy rich as it is.....i think salary cap should go way up and spread the wealth....but also how about spreading the wealth to fans?....iike one game a year everything is free or something like that?

DFWJC · Feb 14, 2019

JPostSam said:
i’d like to see a cap on the highest paid player on the team, and a floor for the lowest paid player on the team.

so, forget league minimum salary. you’d have a team minimum salary of, say, 1% of the annual cap.

and, you’d have a team maximum salary of, say, 12% of the cap.

how you manage everyone else in between is up to you.

the disparities between the top of the roster and the bottom of the roster would shrink a bit. quarterbacks and pass rushers would rake in slightly less, but the “cheap” players would earn more. given the short-term nature of the league, most players would fare better. and, because the difference between a veteran and a younger player wouldn’t be as pronounced, there would be less turnover.

They have a floor, but unlike in the NBA, no max contracts set.

fwiw, the cap HAS been going up a lot over the past several years.

GORICO · Feb 14, 2019

gp_cowpolk said:
No one should be limited on how much money they can make

well they instituted salary cap so they already did in a way.....

GORICO · Feb 14, 2019

ksadler1 said:
Not just QB's. I think every position should have a cap. When an owner way overpays for a player, it hurts the whole league. If the payers don't like it, they can try their hand at flipping burgers for a living. I'm tired of hearing, "these guys put their lives on the line every time they step on the field". Nobody is forcing them to play. . .

ksadler1---i agree....the do it cause they want to...this is not the military where people are drafted against their will....they players love the game...want some fame and cash in

Blackspider214 · Feb 14, 2019

Absolutely not. This would be ignorant. To compare them to any other player on the team is foolish. They have to know every single play in the playbook in all aspects. A WR just really needs to know his route. The QB is reading the defenses before and during the play. He has to know what every other player on hsi team is doing as well.

You don't win in this league without a QB. Simple as that. Sure you can find some outliers but that's all it is. Outliers.

The QB is the most important player on the team. By far. You can try and spin it as football being the ultimate team sport and it might be. Doesn't mean the QB is not by far the most important position on the team. They deserve the big bucks.

Now because of what I said, even poor QBs are paid bigger salaries. Teams get desperate to find that next QB because you aren't winning without one.

GORICO · Feb 14, 2019

Mr_437 said:
I agree with owners setting the market. As much colluding they do, you'd think they could easily fix this escalating QB market.

Concerning the Cowboys they have so many guys up for new deals, and plenty talent around the QB they'd be able to change the narrative and just draft a QB in 2020 or sign a cheaper vet.

Won't happen and Dak will get his 22-25M.

probably so...Dak better get a lot better at reading his cues and get a lot better at fundamentals...but i dont blame him or any other QB...who of us would not cash in?...but it is way not fair to other players who play their butts off too

GORICO · Feb 14, 2019

Alexander said:
And why would the player's union ever agree to this kind of wage cap?

i agree..if there is a cap..then no one player should dominate and get too big a piece

GORICO · Feb 14, 2019

DFWJC said:
They have a floor, but unlike in the NBA, no max contracts set.

fwiw, the cap HAS been going up a lot over the past several years.

DFWJC--- i dont follow NBA like i use too...so in NBA they have ceiling on max contracts?

DFWJC · Feb 14, 2019

Capitalism has fueled the vast majority of major advancements worldwide in the last 100 years.
But it does have a dark underbelly, and one of the weird results is that we massively overpay our entertainers
Top athletes, musicians, and actors all are grotesquely overpaid. But there are entire industries that employee so many due to ripple effect. Pros and cons then.

GORICO · Feb 14, 2019

CATCH17 said:
It's gotten out of hand for sure.

The teams need to govern themselves and stop paying jags elite QB money.

oh man i would be so angry as a Jag fan...and Bortles gets like 19-20 or more million a year and he sucks

DFWJC · Feb 14, 2019

GORICO said:
DFWJC--- i dont follow NBA like i use too...so in NBA they have ceiling on max contracts?

yes. They've had it for awhile now.
The current team, I believe, still gets an advantage of about 10% though. Or at least they used to. That would allow teams at least a fighting chance to keep their own players.

The max player contracts are also based on years of service and % of the total team cap.
But yeah, they have max deals up to, I think, about 30% of the total team cap.

BigCatMonaco · Feb 14, 2019

buybuydandavis said:
Dak got a significant bump from pay for play. Still, I think he holds out without a new contract.

He got an extra couple mil at most.

He’s watching guys like Keemun and Flacco pull in 20 plus to do less than he does.

Aerolithe_Lion · Feb 14, 2019

Funny this thread didn’t pop up until you had to pay yours.

Drew Brees is worth half his team’s salary cap. Allowing him to make that much is what keeps balance with the teams that don’t have Drew Brees.

The nba does what you want, which ends up allowing 6 teams to have 2-3 thrift sale superstars while everyone else is bad.

30 million may seem like a lot, but KD is worth 50 million+ with how he influences a b-ball game. Put him on a team with 10-day contracts and he’ll still make the playoffs.

MaaS · Feb 14, 2019

ShortRound131 said:
Does everyone have a burner account here?

Lol. I didn't notice, but that is hilarious.

On the topic, I do think some sort of limit by % of cap makes sense. The issue with letting QB salaries go unchecked is that teams salary caps aren't based on a free market, it's a fixed pool from revenue sharing. For each additional % of salary a QB takes, somebody who's making say 1 million a year gets the shaft. The NBA max contract limit has largely been a success IMO.

GORICO · Feb 14, 2019

cern said:
the only time baseball players were worth their money was when they were on steroids.

cern---that fish you are holding i think was on steroids?...but i agree..back in the day with Barry Bonds when he looked like a ba-hemoth and swung the bat like lightening and could rip any pitch out of the park...he was so scary no pitcher wanted to pitch to him...but then when he went off "roids" he shrunk considerably and was a shell of himself...i mean we all knew something was up when a guy averages middle 30's for homeruns a year and then rips 73?...but i agree it was a great ride while it lasted...we all loved it...i think Barry dumped his steroids in the lake where the fish you caught had injested them?.....hehehehehehe

Ranched · Feb 14, 2019

DFWJC said:
yes. They've had it for awhile now.
The current team, I believe, still gets an advantage of about 10% though. Or at least they used to. That would allow teams at least a fighting chance to keep their own players.

BenTramer · Feb 14, 2019

Not to get off subject but several teams should sue Sam Bradford for the money he stole from them. Lol. Dude should be in prison for theft!

DFWJC · Feb 14, 2019

daboyzruleperiod said:

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