If Lawrence's demands are out of hand?

erod · Mar 7, 2019

Corso said:
I can see Tank having the same kind of year Almost Anthony did on his 2nd tag.

And aren't we glad we didn't dump a ton of money over a long period on Spencer!

charron · Mar 7, 2019

stasheroo said:
What would you do?

If Demarcus Lawrence and his agent are looking for top of the market "Khalil Mack money", what would you do if it were your decision?

Would you pay it if it's well above $20 million a year? No

Would you keep the tag in place and let the season play out? No

Would you gauge the potential trade market and move on and look to replace him? This should be done anyway. And 1 step further see what it would cost on signing a few guys to help the DL.

If the demands are too high, I think I would gauge the trade market and try to get the most I could for him and I'd also be talking to the few defensive ends who are actually hitting the market, starting with Trey Flowers. He's not Lawrence, but I could probably get him for $16 million a year.

If things with Lawrence can't be worked out, I think I'd look at both Flowers and then another DE given Gregory's indefinite suspension.

If you could sign guys like Margus hunt, henry anderson, and tyrann mathieu all for less than 20 million a year could we be better than just getting Dlaw back? We clearly needed more help along the Dline late last year and Dlaw doesn't solve that by himself.

Stash · Mar 7, 2019

charron said:
If you could sign guys like Margus hunt, henry anderson, and tyrann mathieu all for less than 20 million a year could we be better than just getting Dlaw back? We clearly needed more help along the Dline late last year and Dlaw doesn't solve that by himself.

I believe I saw that Hunt has re-upped with Indianapolis prior to the start of free agency. For the Colts, the rich get richer.

But I do agree with you that it might be better for the defense overall if the team took a spread the wealth position rather than paying over $20 million for one guy.

charron · Mar 7, 2019

stasheroo said:
I believe I saw that Hunt has re-upped with Indianapolis prior to the start of free agency. For the Colts, the rich get richer.

But I do agree with you that it might be better for the defense overall if the team took a spread the wealth position rather than paying over $20 million for one guy.

dang i missed that then. I just hope they think about what dlaw will cost vs say fowler and a good safety or mebane and fowler, etc.

jjktkk · Mar 7, 2019

charron said:
If you could sign guys like Margus hunt, henry anderson, and tyrann mathieu all for less than 20 million a year could we be better than just getting Dlaw back? We clearly needed more help along the Dline late last year and Dlaw doesn't solve that by himself.

FYI, Margus Hunt resigned with Indy.

BrAinPaiNt · Mar 7, 2019

Stop the name calling, personal attacks...and trolling.

Nightman · Mar 7, 2019

erod said:
And aren't we glad we didn't dump a ton of money over a long period on Spencer!

We paid ASpencer 19m over 2 years .... that was more than a long-term deal would have

Silver N Blue · Mar 7, 2019

LatinMind said:
It amazes me how people didnt watch the first 4 games this yr of Charlton. He was very good. Just injuries took the next 8 weeks from him. And he got a little attitude and the coaches had to humble him.

Why pay Flowers 16mil that you know would be overpaying. When you can trade Lawrence have that extra 20mil and draft capital and bring in a guy Fowler or aaron lynch or even slide Crawford to the strong side where he would be a better fit then the right side. Now youre able to bring in a 3tech to rotate with Collins or draft say Tillery in round 2 Or a Oliver in round one.

My point is there could be a better defense with 2 rotating units on the DL that the dropoff in production is very minimal and keeps the DL fresh the whole game. Rather then depending on one guy making 20mil and ur not able to build that 2nd rotation of DL and you give up easy scores because that 2nd rotation cant handle the job.

I hear ya just a big need and a suspect DL if you go into the season with a Taco and Armstrong as your top 2 DLs. I haven't missed a Cowboys game since the mid 80s. Taco just didn't jump out like Gregory or Armstrong did for me. But I wasn't specifically watching for Taco to enter the game as the rotational guy either.

Creeper · Mar 7, 2019

What kind of money is Lawrence asking for? Does anyone know, other than Jerry Jones and Tank Lawrence? If Lawrence's demands are over the top then I would try to trade him. Based on everything I have been reading, I get the impression Lawrence wants to hit the free agent market and let teams bid him up. He sounds like he will go to the highest bidder. That's my gut sense but its only based on media reports.

Stash · Mar 7, 2019

Creeper said:
What kind of money is Lawrence asking for? Does anyone know, other than Jerry Jones and Tank Lawrence? If Lawrence's demands are over the top then I would try to trade him. Based on everything I have been reading, I get the impression Lawrence wants to hit the free agent market and let teams bid him up. He sounds like he will go to the highest bidder. That's my gut sense but its only based on media reports.

I've read and listened to similar reports. And they've also mentioned that none of the agents for these tagged players wants to agree to a deal first. Because, like Donald's deal, it will quickly be outdone, and no agent want some to be that guy for his player, or any other potential clients.

The fact is, the Cowboys decision to wait another year on Lawrence has ended up costing them big. Between then and now, huge contracts for Aaron Donald and Khalil Mack have totally reset the market and what these players are looking for.

LatinMind · Mar 7, 2019

Creeper said:
What kind of money is Lawrence asking for? Does anyone know, other than Jerry Jones and Tank Lawrence? If Lawrence's demands are over the top then I would try to trade him. Based on everything I have been reading, I get the impression Lawrence wants to hit the free agent market and let teams bid him up. He sounds like he will go to the highest bidder. That's my gut sense but its only based on media reports.

The cowboys are justified in not jumping at Lawrences price. Because he is one failed test away from a 10 game suspension. That and Injury concerns. The thing with Lawrence is he has had problems with Amphetamines and not marijuana. He has said that he has no dreams of playing for another team other than the Cowboys. I get it about him earning the money he wants. I I just don’t think you can pay him the money he wants without jeopardizing the future especially on the defense.

Risen Star · Mar 7, 2019

Let him play on the tag again if a trade can't be worked out. If he wants to hold out let him. He's only wasting a year of his prime.

I would not let him hold the franchise hostage. He isn't as good as he thinks he is. There is life after him.

408Cowboy · Mar 7, 2019

Every year the top FA at their position wants to be the next highest paid at that position. Teams have been more than willing to raise the bar year after year. This is the norm now.

Risen Star · Mar 7, 2019

Wood said:
and who exactly is rushing the passer? I'll wait.

Taco Charlton and Dorance Armstrong.

Now brush yourself off and remember this experience.

millennial_legend · Mar 7, 2019

Wood said:
and who exactly is rushing the passer? I'll wait.

Taco Charlton
Randy Gregory
Dorance Armstrong
2019 draft pick
2019 free agent(s) signing (small fraction of what Lawrence will get paid)

etc...

millennial_legend · Mar 7, 2019

Risen Star said:
Taco Charlton and Dorance Armstrong.

Now brush yourself off and remember this experience.

Yep. The Cowboys made their bed when they drafted Taco Charlton as their 1st round pick. As a franchise, you rely on your 1st round picks to be the team leaders at their position, by their 3rd year tops. It's Charlton's 3rd year, so time to shine. Trade Lawrence and let their 1st round pick DE pay its dividends.

Nightman · Mar 7, 2019

Risen Star said:
Taco Charlton and Dorance Armstrong.

Now brush yourself off and remember this experience.

Don't forget TCrawford

408Cowboy · Mar 7, 2019

Nightman said:
Don't forget TCrawford

If he got the same deal as Mack how would that impact this and next year's cap?

Verdict · Mar 7, 2019

stasheroo said:
What would you do?

If Demarcus Lawrence and his agent are looking for top of the market "Khalil Mack money", what would you do if it were your decision?

Would you pay it if it's well above $20 million a year?

Would you keep the tag in place and let the season play out?

Would you gauge the potential trade market and move on and look to replace him?

If the demands are too high, I think I would gauge the trade market and try to get the most I could for him and I'd also be talking to the few defensive ends who are actually hitting the market, starting with Trey Flowers. He's not Lawrence, but I could probably get him for $16 million a year.

If things with Lawrence can't be worked out, I think I'd look at both Flowers and then another DE given Gregory's indefinite suspension.

Trade. All. Day. Long.

WillieBeamen · Mar 7, 2019

Id trade him. No way am i letting an often injured LDE hold my franchise hostage.

Shoot, if i can get what the Raiders got for Mack, id ship him off today

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