Should Howie Roseman be investigated for adding fake contract years to player deals?

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All contracts are approved by the NFL
Most teams design contracts with years a player will never get
A player hires an agent to negotiate his deal, and explain what is agreed to
If the players contract is not what he thought it was, that’s between he and his agent
 
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The only thing that bugs me about this is when the Commanders and Cowboys got hammered (moreso the Skins) for violating the "spirit of the league". To me, as long as you stay within the rules, creative management should be encouraged.

Skins and Boys got screwed.
 
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lwehlers said:
nothing will come from this. now if the cowboys were to be adding fake years to there contracts then the league would be all over it right now.
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The league has rejected contracts in the past
I don’t see an issue with these deals
Most fans and I would hope all players know that the only guarantee in your contract is what guaranteed upfront
 

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lwehlers said:
nothing will come from this. now if the cowboys were to be adding fake years to there contracts then the league would be all over it right now.
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The Cowboys HAVE been doing it for years.... they add voidable years to extend the pro-ration of signing bonuses and restructures

It is smart and legal

The Eagles have borrowed 17m from 2022 and 2023 for this year and next year's cap
 
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conner01 said:
The league has rejected contracts in the past
I don’t see an issue with these deals
Most fans and I would hope all players know that the only guarantee in your contract is what guaranteed upfront
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Pretty much true. That’s why the players look for the guaranteed money and signing bonus. The rest is fluff and comes only if they don’t trade you and you stay healthy. In a 5 year contract most of the guaranteed money is paid out in the first 3 years.
 
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BigCatMonaco said:
I mean, Cox is still going to jump up to over 24 mil per season after this year and 21 for the next 3.
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And they will just restructure it down to 12m

That is why the Eagles have 26m in cap space and we have 16m

Taking 34m in cap hits for DLaw and ACooper is 10x worse than having 10m in Dead Money years from now because we cut that 34m in half

Paying more now when the cap is lower is just Common Core math...... stupid
 
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Here is the question, are the Eagles paying the players more money up front to accept the bogus two years in their contracts? In other words, are the players taking more money to help the Eagles defer their salary cap problems? To me this would be kind of like a bribe. The players going along with a contract that automatically voids if the player is on the roster in exchange for extra money seems a little unethical even if its allowed under the CBA. Its kind of like a bribe. The player does not benefit from those final two years only the team does. Maybe its legal under the CBA, but its probably something they should remove.
 
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Howboutdemcowboys31 said:
https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelp...re-using-fake-contract-years-create-cap-space

What do you think?
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Nightman said:
The Cowboys HAVE been doing it for years.... they add voidable years to extend the pro-ration of signing bonuses and restructures

It is smart and legal

The Eagles have borrowed 17m from 2022 and 2023 for this year and next year's cap
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Yes, as Nightman indicated future base salaries are rarely ever guaranteed.

A 5 year contract with big base salaries in years 2 through 5 can always become a 1 year contract.

The automatically voidable clause described in the Darby contract doesn't really help the team. They could just cut the player without the automatic void. The agent/player might have wanted the voiding clause to assure that it's really only a 1 year contract.

The Ronald Darby contract
But what if you have a player like Darby, who has been hurt the last two years, and you’re reluctant to sign him to a long-term deal because of injury concerns?

Let’s take a look at Darby’s contract.

At first glance, it’s a five-year deal with base salaries of $1 million in 2019 and $15 million in 2020, 2021, 2022 and 2023.

Yes, $15 MILLION per year.

The deal also includes a $3.5 million signing bonus that he received when he signed on March 19 and a roster bonus worth as much as $2 million in the form of $125,000 weekly bonuses for each game that Darby dresses for in 2019.

The cap hit for 2019 is a modest $2.825 million - that’s the $1 million base salary, $700,000 of the signing bonus (the first 20 percent of the $3.5 million pro-rated over five years) and an additional $1.125 million representing the likely-to-be-earned portion of the roster bonus.

What about those $15 million annual salaries from 2020 through 2023?

That’s a ton of money!

The small print in Darby’s contract states simply that the 2020 through 2023 seasons “void automatically” if Darby is on the Eagles’ roster 23 days before the start of the official 2020 league year, which would be sometime in late February.

In other words, if he’s on the team, he’s no longer on the team.

And the $60 million base salaries? They evaporate. They disappear.

All that remains is the $2.8 million remaining pro-rated portion of Darby’s signing bonus, which accelerates into dead money under the Eagles’ 2020 cap.
 
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