Twitter: Sturm: Here is where DLaw is getting his numbers

aikemirv

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Well Aaron Donald money is pretty darn close to Khalil Mack money, and Khalil Mack certainly is a comp for Lawrence.


It's crazy how Cowboys fans are so afraid of the $20m mark that they'll try to drum up a narrative that Lawrence isn't a top player. You can make the argument that all DEs are overpaid - which, fine - but with a rising cap, Lawrence has always been right to ask for near Mack money.

I am fine with the 20 really - it is that shoulder surgery game that he is playing that makes me say hmmmmmmm.
 

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-The shoulder surgery is being put on hold until he signs. So if he waits till summer to sign then he misses games, and then still walks at the end of the day.

-His agent is forcing the Cowboys to sign him or trade him. Dallas can't go into the year without a DE. This defense was coming around but there is no chance we contain teams without Lawrence and Gregory #'s. No rookie will come in and fix that . Ware had 8 as a rookie.

- So if we decide the price is detrimental to the future of signing Cooper, Dak and Zeke then we can try to trade. But again if team knows he's injured then they won't give a first but more like a second. Then we can take that 20+ mill and go sign some free agent DE's.

-Either way we need to sign Quinn to replace Gregory.

- Doing something before the draft is necessary . If can't sign and want to trade it has to be this years draft pic not after the draft and we get a 2020 pic. If we can't sign nobody and they try to sell us on the the idea that Taco has made great strides , and the guys they have will have to save the day then we will be looking at a top ten pick next year.
 

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So he wants Aaron Donald money because that $22.5 million is what Aaron Donald got paid.

At $20 million per he gets paid more than Von miller and Fletcher Cox who are better players and he thinks he's better than them?

I know it's market rates and a new contract but I don't know if DLaw is even better than Chandler Jones. In fact if you look at production and what defense Chandler Jones plays on you would have to believe Jones is the better player.

I'm willing to look for trade partners and I don't care if they're even in our own division at this point.

I'm almost not scared of pulling the tag just before the deadline he has to sign and let him not play the season and go fix his shoulder.

Then he might get $15 million a season. Look at his production by the end of the season and tell me how him playing on a franchise tag with a bum shoulder would increase his productivity anymore.

I'm willing to even send Taco out there with a Quinn or Ansah and hopefully a 1st and/or 2nd round draft pick.

Won't get his surgery done and won't sign for $20 million per. This guy is a joke and anyone willing to pay him above that can have him for the collateral we get. I might even take another 2nd rounder.
 

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Took what risk by tagging him?

Tagging him is one year of guaranteed money at $20.5MM.................... that's way less risky than handing him $70MM in guarantees over 5 or 6 years.
I don't get it. Anyone else on that lest have multiple back surgeries, foot injury, suspended and now needs shoulder surgery? That's why you tag him.
 

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20 Million was always the point the deal was going to settle at, that has been in the news articles for quite a while. I don't think that is a show of weakness to move to the logical end state at the end of March.

I don't think it was a sign of weakness to begin there either. The team deserves as much blame for how and why we got here as the player or his agent do.
 

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Fans are funny to me. They see the Cowboys don’t spend money on free agents....yet they don’t want them to sign their own guys even if it is overpaying. So what does saving money do? It allows you to do what? Hold it?
 

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Well Aaron Donald money is pretty darn close to Khalil Mack money, and Khalil Mack certainly is a comp for Lawrence.


It's crazy how Cowboys fans are so afraid of the $20m mark that they'll try to drum up a narrative that Lawrence isn't a top player. You can make the argument that all DEs are overpaid - which, fine - but with a rising cap, Lawrence has always been right to ask for near Mack money.

Looks great when you cherry pick 2 seasons out of an entire career.
 

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I don't get it. Anyone else on that lest have multiple back surgeries, foot injury, suspended and now needs shoulder surgery? That's why you tag him.
Seeing what’s happened in his career I have serious concern we get our money worth at 20 million a year. He won’t sign the tag. He wants that 60 million guaranteed so he gets paid while sitting home healing from another surgery. As a player I can’t blame him. I am guessing he is on his phone yelling at his agent to get the contract in ink now!!!
 

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Trade him for what? And replace him with?
You find someone. It may not be this year. But the dude wants a boatload of money despite having a growing history of injuries, a suspension for PED's, and seems to fade into nothing at the end of the season. Is he a good player? Yes, no doubt. Is he a great player? I'd say not yet. He has the potential to become one, but they're gambling with a lot of money.
 

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You find someone. It may not be this year. But the dude wants a boatload of money despite having a growing history of injuries, a suspension for PED's, and seems to fade into nothing at the end of the season. Is he a good player? Yes, no doubt. Is he a great player? I'd say not yet. He has the potential to become one, but they're gambling with a lot of money.

Then don't complain about the Cowboys not winning anything significant if you're ready to take a significant downgrade on the roster rather than loading up for a run.
 

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Looks great when you cherry pick 2 seasons out of an entire career.

It's called recent performance and it's what wins good contracts. What happened his first years in the league has little bearing on 2019.

You have some clear misunderstanding on how things work in real NFL negotiations.
 

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I don't think it was a sign of weakness to begin there either. The team deserves as much blame for how and why we got here as the player or his agent do.

They didn't begin at 20MM, they started a lot lower and tagged DLaw when he wouldn't take a lower amount. With the option to tag him, the leverage has mostly be on the side of the Cowboys.
 

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They didn't begin at 20MM, they started a lot lower and tagged DLaw when he wouldn't take a lower amount. With the option to tag him, the leverage has mostly be on the side of the Cowboys.

That's certainly one perspective.

From what I'm seeing, Lawrence has plenty of leverage as well. And he's using it. And that rubs some people the wrong way.
 
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Personnally I would trade him. But I don't think the Cowboys will.

By the time Lawrence, Dak, Zeke, Cooper Jones are signed to their 2nd contracts, this team will be severely hamstrung. And that's with Jaylon Smith's and LVE's contracts on the horizon
 

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So then I guess they should've just given big money to Clay Matthews?

What a player did 3 years ago is irrelevant to their next contract.
Injuries, suspensions and games missed is very relevant.
 

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It's called recent performance and it's what wins good contracts. What happened his first years in the league has little bearing on 2019.

You have some clear misunderstanding on how things work in real NFL negotiations.
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