Jaylon Smith rfa 2020 planning

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Mosley's contract really threw a wrench into things. Prior to that, good, young second-contract MLBs were getting about $10M or $11M a season. Mosley just vaulted that number all the way up to $17M.

An RFA tag does increase our chance of retaining him, as we get an option to match any offer he gets. But with half a dozen big contracts to sign, that number may be higher than we want to pay. Sure, we could get a 1st round pick for him, but then we'd pretty much have to immediately spend that pick on an MLB

If I was Jerry, I would start talking to Jaylon's agent about now and see what kind of numbers he is thinking. If possible, I'd try to extend him before RFA, when a NYJ or Indy or some other team with way too much cap room decides they want a 24 year old stud MLB and hits him with a huge offer sheet that we can't match.
 
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CowboyRoy said:
You want the specific name of the team that will pay him that? How could I possible give you that name? I have no doubt that some team would be stupid enough to do it.
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I'm just saying, we're at an impasse. Is there some team out there willing to pay him what we won't and give up a 1st and 3rd to do it? I'm guessing there is no team that stupid to do it. Just offer him a contract now and give up two firsts if they're that stupid.
 
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AzorAhai said:
I think that Mosley deal is an aberration. From what I read he wanted to stay in Baltimore and thats the kind of overpay it took for them to pry him away. It’s no big deal to the Jets because they had to spend money. I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s the new Keuchly contract, and by that I mean he’s the top contact at LB for years.
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I think I also read the guarantees arent quite what they seemed initially
 
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By the time LVE is due up, the cap will at its current pace have jumped another 45-50 million.
 
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People might not think Jaylon is elite and I respect that, but he's on the cusp.

The kid is 23 years old... He's got his entire career ahead of him. I think this year he solidifies himself as a top LB and makes an all-pro team.
 
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beware_d-ware said:
Mosley's contract really threw a wrench into things. Prior to that, good, young second-contract MLBs were getting about $10M or $11M a season. Mosley just vaulted that number all the way up to $17M.

An RFA tag does increase our chance of retaining him, as we get an option to match any offer he gets. But with half a dozen big contracts to sign, that number may be higher than we want to pay. Sure, we could get a 1st round pick for him, but then we'd pretty much have to immediately spend that pick on an MLB

If I was Jerry, I would start talking to Jaylon's agent about now and see what kind of numbers he is thinking. If possible, I'd try to extend him before RFA, when a NYJ or Indy or some other team with way too much cap room decides they want a 24 year old stud MLB and hits him with a huge offer sheet that we can't match.
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I sincerely doubt that is the new market. Keuchly was the highest for 3-4 years and this just saw like a 30% increase over that even though other LB deals have been done since then. I’m betting this is like the Arod deal in baseball. It is so far outside of the normal that it won’t even be looked at in the same light.
 

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CATCH17 said:
He's not.

Vander Esch is better because of his coverage ability.

Jaylon can thump better then anyone in football right now but it's a passing league and Vander Esch covers a ton of space.
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Jaylon gives you sacks. 4th on the team. I heard he had a huge sack per rush number.
And his bigger claim to fame before the foot were his man coverage abilities. Better than LVE. And talk was that the foot had a ways to go but was still improving.

LVE for MLB and zone coverage. Great.
Jaylon over a TE, where he can man cover, blitz, or play run defense and protect the edge. Great.

Very different players. Both great.
 
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All I gotta say, for whatever it's worth (and it may not be worth much)...

But I'd like to think Jaylon will remember the team (only team) that took a huge risk and drafted him in the second round, after that debilitating knee injury, thus securing a MUCH better rookie contract than he would have gotten.

Not to mention the doctors and sage medical advice from Valley Ranch that helped rebuild that knee.

I'm not saying this should result in some sort of hometown discount...well...yes I am. ;)
 
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Nightman said:
Slow your roll..... he has impressed because of his surgery but he isn't even a Pro Bowler yet
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I hope you don’t use selections to the Pro Bowl as a way to judge NFL talent. There is too much politics involved for a Pro Bowl selection to mean anything . I think it would be wise to discontinue playing the Pro Bowl in the future. It is no longer a prestigious game like it once was. The players don’t take it seriously any more, so how can I?
 

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vlad said:
Considering the Tank contract issues, and what Mosley just signed for(5/85m, 51g), should we get a replacement targeted in this draft? Or would you pay him the going rate?

Assuming no hometown/we believed in you discount...he’s awesome but can’t pay everyone. He is a RFA. That’s the challenge with drafting a guy injured, you don’t get to take advantage of his rookie contract.
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Need to rid the league of a salary cap. Parity bull**** is like income redistribution forced on us by socialists
 
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Crazed Liotta Eyes said:
This franchise is too loyal to older players in my opinion. Play the rookie who is clearly better than the aging Lee. Now what Heath was doing on that play is another story.
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Absolutely. Heath clearly made the mistake but with him leading the league in missed tackles that's to be expected. And to think some on here don't think he can be upgraded from.
 
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the_h0wey said:
I think more of that was because of our DT's not being able to keep the guards and center off of our LB's
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Doesn't matter. When Lee was in for Leighton we gave up bigger plays. Lee was never fast he relied on anticipation but now he has lost a couple steps and can't get in position fast enough
 

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CATCH17 said:
He's not.

Vander Esch is better because of his coverage ability.

Jaylon can thump better then anyone in football right now but it's a passing league and Vander Esch covers a ton of space.
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Jaylon was covering tight ends and slot receivers 30 yards down the field. LVE was playing middle zone coverage 10 yards from the line of scrimmage.
 
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