Dak Prescott:The NFL's next great QB

Whirlwin · Apr 2, 2019

So how many 8 / 10-play drives has Prescott taken the team on. That will answer the question how efficient he is. Anyways be good be safe go Cowboys I'm out

Whirlwin · Apr 2, 2019

408Cowboy said:
You mean

That sounds like a great way to say you don't know what you're talking about.

That's a statement. Not a question.

But it was a statement to a question. Why would you even respond if you didn't want to know the answer. Makes no sense at all

Whirlwin · Apr 2, 2019

Unless you were just trying to be cocky. You thought you were being cool or something. Anyways I'm done later

Mr_Strol · Apr 2, 2019

stasheroo said:
Do you consider the fact that Laurent Robinson was a 3rd round draft pick while Cole Beasley was an undrafted free agent?

Or how about the fact that Romo did that after 9 years in the league, at age 31?

What are the qualifiers?

I am simply arguing that it is possible for a QB to elevate WRs. Are you saying this is impossible and QBs dont help WRs? Not sure what you are disagreeing with here.

Ken · Apr 2, 2019

Super_Kazuya said:
Yes because he didn’t put up bottom level qb numbers in (choose cherry picked range). Is that really the best you can do...

Yes, because it was all his fault that he had no one who could get open and do anything with the ball in an archaic offense.

Please with the tired lazy narratives. They were proven false definitively when Cooper came here. Just stop.

Ken · Apr 2, 2019

817Gill said:
He likes to act like the first 7 games of 2018 are indicative of the team and player moving forward lol. When we sat here all offseason bashing Linehan and the WR by committee approach, this guy must have felt like we had a SB caliber team in place lol.

If you honestly look at the roster and schemes from the first 7 games of 2018 and feel like other QB’s would have done a whole lot better then you have some serious hate in your heart or football just isn’t your thing.

Exactly, see my above post. We are on the same page!

Whirlwin · Apr 2, 2019

Mr_Strol said:
I am simply arguing that it is possible for a QB to elevate WRs. Are you saying this is impossible and QBs dont help WRs? Not sure what you are disagreeing with here.

A quarterback can give a wide receiver more opportunities. They could practice with them. But actually Elevate their game I'm not sure how that's possible. Unless I'm not understanding what you're trying to say

Stash · Apr 2, 2019

Mr_Strol said:
I am simply arguing that it is possible for a QB to elevate WRs. Are you saying this is impossible and QBs dont help WRs? Not sure what you are disagreeing with here.

Disagreeing with any implication that Prescott can’t do the same.

ScipioCowboy · Apr 2, 2019

Mr_Strol said:
Shouldn't a franchise QB elevate the players around them?

Ideally, yes. But there are maybe four or five guys like that in the league. To be honest, Aikman was borderline in that regard.

Toruk_Makto · Apr 2, 2019

Kaiser said:
The Internet for ten years of Tony Romo starting: "He has more turnovers than big plays, we need efficiency!!"

The Internet for three years of Dak Prescott starting: "Sure he is efficient, but we need big plays!!!"

Romo was one of the most efficient QBs in league history.

Toruk_Makto · Apr 2, 2019

Kaiser said:
He had a great OL for the first 24 games of his career, for the second 24 its been mediocre or bad. We had the second most sacks allowed last year even with a mobile QB, that tells you something.

Dak isn't terribly elusive and he holds the ball too long leading to many of those sacks.

BigD_95 · Apr 2, 2019

ScipioCowboy said:
If the talent around him is good, he runs an offense as efficient as almost anyone’s. That’s a pretty big deal.

you mean besides... not seeing open receivers? Not hitting open receivers when he does see them? not hitting open receivers in stride when he does get them the ball?

other than that he is pretty efficient

817Gill · Apr 2, 2019

stasheroo said:
So does Cole Beasley's career high year of 2016 with Dak qualify?

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BeasCo00.htm

Did Dak "elevate" him too?

Beat me to it! Haha Beas wasn’t much more than a 4th option blip on the radar before Dak. Romo didn’t get him the ball and I wonder if Josh Allen will in Buffalo. Oh yeah Dak got Beas paid too it seems haha

HungryLion · Apr 2, 2019

WillieBeamen said:
The poster said he runs an offense “almost as efficents as anyone’s” when he has talent around him.

That isnt true. I dont have to even look at the numbers to know he doesnt run an offense anywhere near Kansas City’s, New Orleans, or the Rams. Yall sound just as dumb as Jerry when he said we have an offense as good as the Rams (remember that gem?).

Also, yall continuously blame Dak’s crap play mostly on his cast and not him. You yourself admitted you almost gave up on him until Cooper came. Its hilarious that yall blame the missed throws, the bad reads, and the stalled drives mostly on the receivers. Its crazy. I dont have the time or patience to show you and the other homers all of Dak’s mishaps.

Another thing, is I was actually wrong. We had the 17th ranked offense when it comes to points per drive.
I dont have the actual points per drive once Cooper got here, but we averaged 22 points per game with Amari Cooper. That alone, wouldve ranked us 19th in points per game for the season. I highly, HIGLY doubt that would put us in the top 10.

If im wrong about the points per drive after Cooper being here, i will gladly admit that im wrong. But even if it was top 10, this offense was nowhere near as efficient as KC, LA, or NO

You may be right on that last point.

I wouldn’t call myself a Homer though. Probably just more optimistic about
Dak’s future than others. I’ve also straight up called him out when he plays like crap too.

Whirlwin · Apr 2, 2019

DakPresgoat said:
You may be right on that last point.

I wouldn’t call myself a Homer though. Probably just more optimistic about
Dak’s future than others. I’ve also straight up called him out when he plays like crap too.

We are individuals. I and I alone choose what I like or don't like. I'm not a hater and I'm not a homer. I don't know why people label us

817Gill · Apr 2, 2019

WillieBeamen said:
NOPE

For example:

Kansas City averaged 34.8 points per game this past season. They were number 1.

Guess who was ranked number 10? The Chicago Bears led by the one and only Mitch trubisky.

Who in their right mind would declare Chicago’s offense “almost” as good as KC’s?

I see where you’re trying to go with this, but efficiency isn’t the same as high powered. The stat you should be looking at isn’t ppg, but ppd (points per drive). Then you’ll be talking about purely efficiency as the previous posters alluded to.

I don’t think any Dak supporter has ever claimed he is the highest scoring or best gunslinger, especially in an offense that’s admitted before that ball control is a bigger priority than scoring.

817Gill · Apr 2, 2019

Mr_Strol said:
I am simply arguing that it is possible for a QB to elevate WRs. Are you saying this is impossible and QBs dont help WRs? Not sure what you are disagreeing with here.

The majority of qb’s in this league (everyone not named Brees, Brady, or Rodgers) needs help to win and win deep into the playoffs.

Even with Qb’s like the guys in parentheses couldn’t do it alone, regardless if they could pad a WR’s stats. You don’t win consistently or deep in the playoffs when the team relies solely on one guy or position group to succeed.

WillieBeamen · Apr 2, 2019

DakPresgoat said:
You may be right on that last point.

I wouldn’t call myself a Homer though. Probably just more optimistic about
Dak’s future than others. I’ve also straight up called him out when he plays like crap too.

Which is why I respect you as a poster

WillieBeamen · Apr 2, 2019

817Gill said:
I see where you’re trying to go with this, but efficiency isn’t the same as high powered. The stat you should be looking at isn’t ppg, but ppd (points per drive). Then you’ll be talking about purely efficiency as the previous posters alluded to.

I don’t think any Dak supporter has ever claimed he is the highest scoring or best gunslinger, especially in an offense that’s admitted before that ball control is a bigger priority than scoring.

I agree but even when you look at points per drive:

KC- 3.25 (1st)

CHI- 2.17 (11th)

See what im saying. Even though CHI is right outside the top 10 in ppd, no one would consider them being on par with KC in offensive efficiency

Look at Carolina for example. Most posters on here think Cam Newton is overrated and Dak is better. His offense finished 10th and he missed a few games. No one in their right mind would say Cam is an upper echelon QB....

erod · Apr 2, 2019

Kaiser said:
In 2017 there were 9 RBs with more than 1000 yards rushing and only one of them (AD) had a lower average per carry. Two tied with him at 4.7 YPC and six had a higher YPC.

He lead the league in rushing because he had 20% more carries than the second highest total, its a joke to say it was all the OL.

It's a bigger joke to say this line is terrible.

Dak can't throw teams off their fronts, so of course there is pressure. Then he holds the ball for three days.

The lack of respect for Dak makes it really hard for the offensive line to protect and run block against pressure fronts.

They do well considering.

Dak Prescott:The NFL's next great QB

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