How Can These Guys Fail a Drug Test?

Doomsday101 · Apr 4, 2019

Whirlwin said:
I agree and I understand totally. The word privilege it's too easily ignored.

Exactly, NFL is not some right handed out. Few who play the game from childhood through college will get the chance. Why would you risk on something so stupid as weed?

408Cowboy · Apr 4, 2019

Doomsday101 said:
I know and if it fails you get your money back guaranteed. However is the 30 to 50 bucks you get back in cases if fails worth risking the job or career? lol
Downside is most drug test pick up masking agents and that will be viewed as a failed test

I have friends that use them whenever they need to get tested for a job. Never heard of them failing I didn't even know about the money back guarantee.

Whirlwin · Apr 4, 2019

Doomsday101 said:
Exactly, NFL is not some right handed out. Few who play the game from childhood through college will get the chance. Why would you risk on something so stupid as weed?

I have to go back to the mission statements the culture even if you have a legal marijuana card still shouldn't be a pass. This is a League of Standards that people look up to. At least it should be. Good be safe.

Doomsday101 · Apr 4, 2019

408Cowboy said:
I have friends that use them whenever they need to get tested for a job. Never heard of them failing I didn't even know about the money back guarantee.

I'm not saying they can't work or don't work what I am saying is it worth taking that chance. I looked into all those masking agents before I quit and most claimed to be 90 to 95 percent effective but that 5 to 10 percent chance was just not worth a job that I like and now have been with them for 33 years. A job that as provided well for me and my family and offers a very good retirement. I weighted it all out and it was an easy choice to make. In terms of NFL players it is a very short career and you can smoke all you want once that career is over.

Whirlwin · Apr 4, 2019

408Cowboy said:
I have friends that use them whenever they need to get tested for a job. Never heard of them failing I didn't even know about the money back guarantee.

You don't even have to spend the $50. You can have a urine pack inside your boot they don't go in a stall with you. And you have the right to choose the stall over the urinal. I actually bleed every single state city government job everyone should be drug tested from the police to the crossing guard. And you should actually have to pay for that yourself just like you have to with your uniforms. Fun paying your salary I want you drug tested

Whirlwin · Apr 4, 2019

Doomsday101 said:
I'm not saying they can't work or don't work what I am saying is it worth taking that chance. I looked into all those masking agents before I quit and most claimed to be 90 to 95 percent effective but that 5 to 10 percent chance was just not worth a job that I like and now have been with them for 33 years. A job that as provided well for me and my family and offers a very good retirement. I weighted it all out and it was an easy choice to make. In terms of NFL players it is a very short career and you can smoke all you want once that career is over.

It's like you have a $50,000 a year job. And you steal something as little as a paper. And you get caught why take the damn chance. I just don't think people think sometimes not everybody obviously there are actually private detectives and I know some that will watch you if you're out on disability can't wait for you to fail. People say no I don't think so. I'm telling you they watch everything when it's their money. Great post to have for the offseason. Break up the monotony

Whirlwin · Apr 4, 2019

408Cowboy said:
That's a good reason to stop.

I was a teenager and got too high to run from the cops

Some people say it gives you energy. Lol I quit smoking the day my first daughter was born 36 years ago. For me it was for my neuropathy nerve damage. I rely on this damn speaking text. Gobbles my words up sometimes but my fingers sting like bee stings. The marijuana didn't help much

Diehardblues · Apr 4, 2019

Doomsday101 said:
Evidently, for NFL players, it is harder than I realized to smoke marijuana and not get caught.

Either that, or it is utterly amazing how careless and unprofessional some of these guys can be.

At least that's my current working theory after several players, including most notably Jets defensive lineman Sheldon Richardson and Cowboys linebacker Rolando McClain, were suspended recently under the NFL's substance abuse policy.

Without getting bogged down into too much minutiae, here are the rules: Players get tested once a year for "street drugs" (including marijuana) and that test is in May or June, during the team's Organized Team Activities. A positive test would place the player in the league's program, which entails more frequent testing and some meetings. If the player fulfills his requirements in the program, he needs to test positive two more times to get suspended. If the NFL's medical director believes the player hasn't adequately participated in the program, a second positive test could trigger a four-game suspension like the ones that Richardson and McClain got.

There are a couple key points that need to be reiterated:

1) NFL players only get tested once a year for substances and they KNOW when it will take place.

2) Even if a player tests positive once, as long as he does what the league asks, there won't be any serious repercussions unless he tests positive TWO MORE TIMES.

Let's start with the first point, which is really the most important one. Everybody knows when the test is coming. Every year. To use some Wellsian (Ted, that is) terms, I was "generally aware" during my time as a player of several teammates who "more probable than not" smoked marijuana on a fairly regular basis.

How do I know? They talked about it, hinted at it and even smelled like it from time to time. Yet none of those guys that I remember, with the notable exception of one after we were no longer teammates, ever had any issue with the NFL's substance abuse policy, which is an intelligence test as much as anything. But don't just take my word for it.

http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/135008328/sheldon-richardson-rolando-mcclain-suspended

Yep

And about 99% of the players adhere to the rules.

Why do the rules need changing for the 1%???

Diehardblues · Apr 4, 2019

Most players have it figured out. You can smoke pot about 10-11 months a year.

The ones who fail Id argue don’t have the discipline and probably never will. Which would appear it’s more than recreational.

Diehardblues · Apr 4, 2019

Let’s see. I can play in the NFL, make millions and get high for about 300 days a year or be an idiot who can’t control themselves left out on the street without a job. What do I do?

Nightman · Apr 4, 2019

Doomsday101 said:
I'm not saying they can't work or don't work what I am saying is it worth taking that chance. I looked into all those masking agents before I quit and most claimed to be 90 to 95 percent effective but that 5 to 10 percent chance was just not worth a job that I like and now have been with them for 33 years. A job that as provided well for me and my family and offers a very good retirement. I weighted it all out and it was an easy choice to make. In terms of NFL players it is a very short career and you can smoke all you want once that career is over.

That is why people have a couple drinks to get buzzed..... cheap and legal

Diehardblues · Apr 4, 2019

The problem for players is once you fail a test then your subject to random test.

Again, they give you a second chance but most of those can’t adhere. That’s when we know it’s not just recreational.

kskboys · Apr 4, 2019

Diehardblues said:
Most players have it figured out. You can smoke pot about 10-11 months a year.

The ones who fail Id argue don’t have the discipline and probably never will. Which would appear it’s more than recreational.

I see a ton of failed lives due to marijuana usage.

Diehardblues · Apr 4, 2019

Nightman said:
That is why people have a couple drinks to get buzzed..... cheap and legal

People who drink don’t drink every day unless they’re alcoholics. Why do pot smokers need to get high everyday unless it’s more than recreational?

I’m not sure everyone understands these players know when the yearly drug test is( May-June)and can get high the rest of the year. How difficult is that ?

Diehardblues · Apr 4, 2019

kskboys said:
I see a ton of failed lives due to marijuana usage.

I’d call it more of under achieving lives. But I’m sure there are some failed lives.

I have seen lives destroyed by alcohol and hard drug abuse . Pot heads just try to get by , not usually the more ambition type

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408Cowboy · Apr 4, 2019

Whirlwin said:
Some people say it gives you energy. Lol I quit smoking the day my first daughter was born 36 years ago. For me it was for my neuropathy nerve damage. I rely on this damn speaking text. Gobbles my words up sometimes but my fingers sting like bee stings. The marijuana didn't help much

Damn man I'm only 36

kskboys · Apr 4, 2019

Diehardblues said:
I’d call it more of under achieving lives. But I’m sure there are some failed lives.

I have seen lives destroyed by alcohol and hard drug abuse . Pot heads just try to get by , not usually the more ambition type)

I've seen good businesses fail, pink slips due to poor attendance and tardiness, brain slippage, stuff like that. Not ambitious? I guess you could call it that, but it's much worse in actuality.

kskboys · Apr 4, 2019

408Cowboy said:
Damn man I'm only 36

Old fert!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dallasfann · Apr 4, 2019

CowboysExchange said:
Weed is not a morality issue. Its a medical and coping issue. Its non addicting and harmless and has no performance enhancements.

Weed is absolutely addicting. Anyone who thinks it's not is most likely addicted to it. Anything that a grown *** man can't quit for a week to make million dollar pay check for must be addicted to it.

408Cowboy · Apr 4, 2019

Diehardblues said:
I’d call it more of under achieving lives. But I’m sure there are some failed lives.

I have seen lives destroyed by alcohol and hard drug abuse . Pot heads just try to get by , not usually the more ambition type)

Nobody can say how any one drug can effect each individual person. For example I know successful doctors and lawyers in San Jose that smoke meth. Considering their professions it's probably not the best vice out there. And I've seen potheads turn entrepreneur and do very well. Strength of mind and a person's personality I believe have more to do with the outcome from drug use.

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