Archer: Cowboys currently have $7.062M cap space

CowboyRoy · Apr 3, 2019

Fla Cowpoke said:
Just because you don't understand his posts doesn't mean it's dumb.

Almost every team in the league uses the same methods to play with the cap.

Sparingly. Not as a cap management strategy. And the cowboys aren’t doing anything close to what he wants. So yah, it’s dumb.

CowboyRoy · Apr 3, 2019

Proof said:
He literally said “these aren’t suggestions” and provided insight on how the cap could be manipulated as a thought experiment. Never implied it’s what the team should do, or that he thought they would, just that they could.

Someone specifically tagged him for just such an example because of their respect for his understanding of the cap and he complied. It’s appreciated

I guess he’s your hero. Lol

What’s appreciated? A silly idea that won’t happen?

CowboyRoy · Apr 3, 2019

John813 said:
They restructured Frederick and Witten just last year . Right now there's no need to restructure unless they were planning on signing more players .

Don’t confuse restructuring with extending. It can be useful used sparingly. But again, not as a strategy as some cap dunces imply.

Proof · Apr 3, 2019

CowboyRoy said:
I guess he’s your hero. Lol

What’s appreciated? A silly idea that won’t happen?

no, an informed explanation of the cap and the implications / options. It's a very tedious exercise going through it yourself, and It's nice to have a poster that is willing to do it on our behalf and with context.

it's not an idea and whether it will happen or not is irrelevant. It's fodder for discussion and was requested. good stuff, the antithesis to what you bring to the table

Stash · Apr 3, 2019

ColoCowboy said:
Some how, a Thanos-snapping-his-fingers meme would have worked as well. Who knows (see what I did there)

Just for you.

davidariust24 · Apr 4, 2019

Pay Dlaw his 2.5 extra . It would be great to get it done ASAP. If they go up again, it's time to trade.

dallasdave · Apr 4, 2019

Little Jr said:
@Nightman

dallasdave · Apr 4, 2019

Nightman said:
Potential Cap Savings- remember this just a MENU of options, not suggestions

Restructures
TSmith............7.5m
ZMartin...........7.5m
TFred...............4m
TCrawford........4m
~~SLee................4m~~

Cuts/Trades
DLawrence......20.m
RQuinn.............8m
SLee................2m
TCrawford........6m
AHurns.............5m
Witten...............4.5m
~~TWill.................2.25m~~
JHeath..............2m
JThomas...........2m
CJones.............800k

Extension
DLawrence..........10m
ACooper..............7m
Zeke...................(2 years left)
BJones................0m
Dak..................would add at least 6m to his 1.7m cap hit

Crawford and Hurns 11million

Nightman · Apr 4, 2019

Proof said:
no, an informed explanation of the cap and the implications / options. It's a very tedious exercise going through it yourself, and It's nice to have a poster that is willing to do it on our behalf and with context.

it's not an idea and whether it will happen or not is irrelevant. It's fodder for discussion and was requested. good stuff, the antithesis to what you bring to the table

When you do a restructure you are borrowing cap space from the future...if you turn an 11m base salary into a 10m signing bonus and a 1m base salary the cash is the same.... it just means you can spread the 10m over 5 years.... instead of a 11m cap hit you now have a 3m cap hit( 1m base + 2m prorated signing bonus)

Year1 you pay back 2m right off the top so you have created 8m in cap space

Years2-5 you pay back 2m a year as well.... but there is no interest on this loan..... you borrowed 10m and paid back 10m over 5 years

But in fact it is even better because the cap keeps going up....it is a cash back loan..... you borrow 10m but only pay back 8m or 9m if you stretch it over the full 5 years

When the cap is 150m then 10m represents 10/150 or 6.7%
By Year5 the cap has gone up 50m so now it is 10/200 or 5%

The cap has gone up by 33% so cap charges in the future are worth less than they are today ... the same 10m hurts a lot less... it is free money

You borrowed 10m and had to pay back 8m essentially.... if this happened in real life people would be lining up around the block to get this deal and they would do it as many times as they could... it is the same with restructures

Every guaranteed base salary should always be restructured and most other large contracts should be done as well as long as that player is going to be on your roster that year since it pre-pays their salary for the year

There is no fear, no risk, no doing it too much..... it has no bearing on whether you can cut a player in the future.... Dead Money is Dead and can never be resurrected by continuing to pay a bad player

Dead Money is simply the receipt for cap savings already taken in the past when the cap was much lower..... it really shouldn't even by tied to any one player in particular since the savings went to the general fund.... and with rollover you can push forward any unspent cap space to the future anyways... another bonus

Nightman · Apr 4, 2019

dallasdave said:
Crawford and Hurns 11million

I would rather restructure TSmith and ZMartin and get 15m and extend DLaw and ACooper and get another 17m

Add that to the 10m we already have and that is 42m under without cutting anyone

We could take a chance on EBerry and maybe Suh or McCoy and still rollover 25m to next year but we would have the flexibility to trade for anyone during the year that became available

dallasdave · Apr 4, 2019

Nightman said:
I would rather restructure TSmith and ZMartin and get 15m and extend DLaw and ACooper and get another 17m

Add that to the 10m we already have and that is 42m under without cutting anyone

We could take a chance on EBerry and maybe Suh or McCoy and still rollover 25m to next year but we would have the flexibility to trade for anyone during the year that became available

I would not resturcture Smith, his back is suspect, and might not have many more years left. I would get Crawford off the books this year, next year the cap hit is even worse.

Q_the_man · Apr 4, 2019

eromeopolk said:
Everything else will be from the draft or June 1st cuts. Jerry will not resign the new tripletts until they prove it about 3/4 into the season as he did with Troy, Emmitt, and Mike. QB first, then RB, and then WR he will franchise tag one until signed. It will not be the QB.

Jerry had no choice but to resign Emmitt, because Emmitt held out and we were 0-2 to start the season.

DCreppinBoysfan · Apr 4, 2019

J12B said:
Although that $7 million should be enough to sign the rookie class.

Especially without a first round pick to pay

Nightman · Apr 5, 2019

dallasdave said:
I would not resturcture Smith, his back is suspect, and might not have many more years left. I would get Crawford off the books this year, next year the cap hit is even worse.

The status of his hip is irrelevant ........ if he is on the team this year then you restructure his contract

Simple math...... who the cap space is attached to doesn't matter

When you sign 3 players because you save 7.5m on TSmith's contract he doesn't get 3 stars on his contract or his helmet..... he gets a thanks in the form of his money for the year upfront and in a lump sum...... that is called a win-win

All you are advocating is paying the Dead Money this year instead of 3-4 years in the future???? Why do you think that is better??? How does that help this year's team win any more games or sign better players???

It doesn't ... it just makes you feel better because you are trained to believe debt is bad.... the Salary Cap isn't real life..... there are no interest rates and you always get a 5-10% annual raise

CowboyRoy · Apr 5, 2019

Proof said:
no, an informed explanation of the cap and the implications / options. It's a very tedious exercise going through it yourself, and It's nice to have a poster that is willing to do it on our behalf and with context.

it's not an idea and whether it will happen or not is irrelevant. It's fodder for discussion and was requested. good stuff, the antithesis to what you bring to the table

What explanation? We have 7 million in cap space. End of story.

Archer: Cowboys currently have $7.062M cap space

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