Where would you rank Dak?

GimmeTheBall!

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I'm hoping that you don't hold that same standard for me GTB.

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No, silly ruffian! You get a pass. You are free to pillage and be the Viking you always wanted to be.
To the fore! Dak will disappoint but our moral points will multiply!
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Problem is that Andy Dalton makes $16m a year on average. I dont think anyone here thinks Dak is less valuable than Dalton. From there the jump is into the low 20's, where guys like Alex Smith, Nick Foles, Joe Flacco, Eli Manning reside. THen you have guys in the 25m-28m range like Garrapolo, Cousins and Derek Carr.

The financial truth of the NFL means that Dak is going to get somewhere close to 25-27m if he gets redone before this season. If he has a great year and we don't sign him this year, he will definitely hit that 30m range. An awful year probably means he gets tagged.
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No order:
Brady
Rodgers
Mahomes
Brees
Wentz
Goff
Wilson
Ryan
Rivers
Watson
Luck
Mayfield
Jimmy G
Stafford
Foles

All are without a doubt better. I dont want to hear anything about a damn w/l record, because any of those QBs could get 11 wins on this team.

Debatable:
Cam
Winston
Cousins
Trubisky

All of these QBs have put up seasons with better stats than Dak, but are mostly inconsistent

I don't at all see how you can reach the conclusion that "all" of your first group are "without a doubt better". Clearly there is no doubt with Brady, Rodgers and Brees. And you should have listed Roethlesberger with that group - also clearly better. There isn't significant doubt with a several of the others, and yet others most might say are at least somewhat better than Dak, but "without a doubt" is too strong a way to put it.

And then there are Maryfield, Groppolo, Stafford and Foles. Mayfield had a nice rookie season, but no better (and probably not as good) as Dak's rookie season, and no better than Dak's season this past year. He hasn't proven to be one iota better than Dak. Garoppollo has proven even less, having only played in 26 games and started only 10 games in his 5 year NFL career. His career cumulative stats are lower than Dak's worst individual season. Stafford has been a strong QB in the past, but he had a drop off last season and Dak's numbers and results were much better, so we can't say how that will play out going forward. And Foles has had an amazingly mundane career except for one strong regular season 6 years ago, and a nice playoff stretch a couple of years ago. Otherwise his 7 year career has looked much more like that of a backup.
 

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16 to 20

In no particular order.
No doubt I`d take: Brady, Ben, Mayfield, Rivers, Mahomes, Watson, Luck, Rodgers, Stafford, Ryan, Brees, Cam, Wentz, Goff and Wilson over Dak,

Cousins, Mariota, Jimmy G, and others are comparable, then you have the young ones that are not included here like Arnold and Allen that could end up being better.
I'd say this is fair, but in a world where all things are equal...namely age. In reality, of that list, I wouldn't want Brady, Rivers, Wilson, Rodgers, Ryan, Stafford, or Brees right now in their perspective careers simply because the QB hunt can be treacherous and Dak has his whole career still in front of him. Ten more years of Dak is not outside the realm of possibility...
 
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I'd say this is fair, but in a world where all things are equal...namely age. In reality, of that list, I wouldn't want Brady, Rivers, Wilson, Rodgers, Ryan, Stafford, or Brees right now in their perspective careers simply because the QB hunt can be treacherous and Dak has his whole career still in front of him. Ten more years of Dak is not outside the realm of possibility...

Agreed but then you`d have to take into account the younger guys such as Darnold, Allen, Rosen, Jackson, Trubisky etc.. They are all younger than Dak and could very well end up being better.
This list was just that, what QB`s would I take today in front of Dak w/o taking into account age.
 

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Middle of the pack, his age puts him over some equal but older players imo.
 

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Agreed but then you`d have to take into account the younger guys such as Darnold, Allen, Rosen, Jackson, Trubisky etc.. They are all younger than Dak and could very well end up being better.
This list was just that, what QB`s would I take today in front of Dak w/o taking into account age.

I'd say, with all things considered, Dak is somewhere between 14 and 10 and that ranking largely depends on how you value his intangibles (leadership, self-aware, want/desire to win) as well as his mobility.
 

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No, silly ruffian! You get a pass. You are free to pillage and be the Viking you always wanted to be.
To the fore! Dak will disappoint but our moral points will multiply!
Avast, ye hardies! To the mast! To pillage (a French word also pronounced pee-LODGE) in a world of mediocrity and moral victories to that to which we acquiese!

Blimey, the things I say!

Where were you with this offer when I was still young and unmarried? Seems like it's always the case right? Always Cool-Aid, no sugar..... Always Peanut Butter, no Jelly......

Sigh......
 
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