If Jason Garrett goes, so should Dak Prescott

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I gave my plan. Go back into hiding.

Hope is not a plan. You want Dak and Garrett out at all costs. No specific ideas for replacement and instead you hope that the QB crop is going to be good in the upcoming draft when they have not even played this year and that we fail hard enough in the season to get one. You do realize talented QBs go high right?
 

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With Garrett being in the final year of his contract and Jerry Jones already talking this team up - this needs to be it. If Garrett fails to improve upon what we did in 2018, he needs to walk and take Prescott with him.

Normally, I wouldn't attach a player to the coach, but whatever coach we bring in should be allowed to draft the QB that best suits their system. The 2020 QB class is looking to be deep, you potentially have Tua who is in the mold of a Russel Wilson, Herbert who can make every throw on the field with good mobility, and your prototypical pocket passer in Fromm - then you have interesting prospects such as Costello and Eason whom could end up being late first round to early second round picks as well.

Unless Garrett and Prescott take the next step, we should not consider them our future and there will be plenty of options out there to replace and move on.
My issue with Dak is just like everyone else's issue with Jeff Heath. Dak is serviceable and just good enough to prevent the Cowboys from looking for a true stud. He will win games with plenty of talent around him but he will never win a SB. It's not that I don't like Dak, it's that I just don't think he is good enough.
 

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Hope is not a plan. You want Dak and Garrett out at all costs. No specific ideas for replacement and instead you hope that the QB crop is going to be good in the upcoming draft when they have not even played this year and that we fail hard enough in the season to get one. You do realize talented QBs go high right?

Doesn’t seem to be at all costs, just if the team fails next year.
 

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Do not agree, the kid barely played in the second half of games because they'd already turned out the other team's lights and I saw him throw some mighty impressive spirals of substance. If they'd kept Tua in the games like OU did Murray, he would have taken the Heisman. And if he'd been NFL eligible, they would have.
He can throw but is miles behind on reading coverages. You can get away with that in college but in the NFL if you are not Cam Newton half QB/half RB you will have problems. Injuries concern me with the kid as well. I truly hope the best for the kid as I was thoroughly impressed with the kid the first game I saw him in. Maybe this year he turns the corner. Of course this is just my opinion on what I see.
 

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I’ve state many times why I support Garrett. Few which have anything to do with his coaching ability.

He’s the best puppet I’ve seen for our dysfunctional situation. I think he brings many assets to our messed up situation . Unfortunately they don’t include as much on Game Day.
 
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Doesn’t seem to be at all costs, just if the team fails next year.

He says winning the NFCCG is not enough and that even winning the SB might not be. We both what "might" really means.

He just has an axe to grind against those 2.
 

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With Garrett being in the final year of his contract and Jerry Jones already talking this team up - this needs to be it. If Garrett fails to improve upon what we did in 2018, he needs to walk and take Prescott with him.

Normally, I wouldn't attach a player to the coach, but whatever coach we bring in should be allowed to draft the QB that best suits their system. The 2020 QB class is looking to be deep, you potentially have Tua who is in the mold of a Russel Wilson, Herbert who can make every throw on the field with good mobility, and your prototypical pocket passer in Fromm - then you have interesting prospects such as Costello and Eason whom could end up being late first round to early second round picks as well.

Unless Garrett and Prescott take the next step, we should not consider them our future and there will be plenty of options out there to replace and move on.
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This makes no sense. If Dak improves, team has a good year but gets bounced again before the conference final because of being outcoached.....why would you toss the qb? Especially for a mediocre prospect like Eason?
By this measure Romo would have been gone with Phillips....would you have been fine with that?
 

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I’m not sure all fans grasp the reality of our situation with Jerry when it comes to our HC. We are very limited and despite whatever efforts we make in front office assembling a talented team we are subject to a HC who won’t earn more credit than Jerry if we have success.

Remember Jerry won championships with a great HC but didn’t appreciate not receiving the credit he was pursuing and why we’ve basically been in this peculiar predicament ever since.

We have basically been a talent dependent franchise since Jimmy left with the possible exception with Bill. Jerry doesn’t appear to be as intimidated with proven coordinators.
 

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‍♂️ there is so little faith in Garrett to win we’re already determining his fate.
 

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He can throw but is miles behind on reading coverages. You can get away with that in college but in the NFL if you are not Cam Newton half QB/half RB you will have problems. Injuries concern me with the kid as well. I truly hope the best for the kid as I was thoroughly impressed with the kid the first game I saw him in. Maybe this year he turns the corner. Of course this is just my opinion on what I see.
He's Mahomes where he was at his age. Mahomes would not be the wonder kid if he hadn't been backing up for his rookie season. I really do believe throwing these rooks to the wolves in their rookie season on a poor team sets them back and stifles growth.

Prescott was lucky he was on a solid team with a great OL and RB, few get that luxury. A good team traded up to get Mahomes and then let him learn for a year. Rodgers fell to GB and carried the clipboard. None of these rookie QB's looked good this past season and that's the norm. Manning and Luck led the league in picks their rookie seasons.
 

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‍♂️ there is so little faith in Garrett to win we’re already determining his fate.
I’m certainly rooting for him.

They just wanna be right. That’s more important to some than winning. And why as much as I despise the situation Jerrys arrogance has placed us in , I never say never.
 

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if dak is given a extension before the season then the results of the season wont matter for him but if they don't make the playoffs then he will have to adjust to new head coach and his staff if the season starts out bad the press and the fans it will get really ugly for garrett really quickly
 

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This makes no sense. If Dak improves, team has a good year but gets bounced again before the conference final because of being outcoached.....why would you toss the qb? Especially for a mediocre prospect like Eason?
By this measure Romo would have been gone with Phillips....would you have been fine with that?
Because Dak is both revered and hated. guess which one this falls in.
 

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He's Mahomes where he was at his age. Mahomes would not be the wonder kid if he hadn't been backing up for his rookie season. I really do believe throwing these rooks to the wolves in their rookie season on a poor team sets them back and stifles growth.

Prescott was lucky he was on a solid team with a great OL and RB, few get that luxury. A good team traded up to get Mahomes and then let him learn for a year. Rodgers fell to GB and carried the clipboard. None of these rookie QB's looked good this past season and that's the norm. Manning and Luck led the league in picks their rookie seasons.
In a perfect world Prescott would have sat behind Romo for 2 to 3 seasons and Dak would have been better for it. There have been many QBs that had what Dak had and did do what Dak did. The one that stands out most is Big Ben.....great season by the Steelers with Ben as a rookie first round draft pick bus driver but even Ben with a great OL and running game was not asked to do as much as Dak did as a rookie.

Tua IMO is nothing like Mahomes. If those are the expectations of him when he does get to the NFL...many will be disappointed IMO.
 

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He's Mahomes where he was at his age. Mahomes would not be the wonder kid if he hadn't been backing up for his rookie season. I really do believe throwing these rooks to the wolves in their rookie season on a poor team sets them back and stifles growth.

Prescott was lucky he was on a solid team with a great OL and RB, few get that luxury. A good team traded up to get Mahomes and then let him learn for a year. Rodgers fell to GB and carried the clipboard. None of these rookie QB's looked good this past season and that's the norm. Manning and Luck led the league in picks their rookie seasons.
Yep

And why so many of these top drafted studs flop on horrible teams.

I wonder how Dak would have done in Cleveland or the Jets? The team your on makes a huge difference. Look how helpless Aikman was until we surrounded him.

The confidence factor is huge for a QB. The transition is tough enough without laying on your back ,fans booing, sportswriters chopping you up and social media bashing.
 

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In a perfect world Prescott would have sat behind Romo for 2 to 3 seasons and Dak would have been better for it. There have been many QBs that had what Dak had and did do what Dak did. The one that stands out most is Big Ben.....great season by the Steelers with Ben as a rookie first round draft pick bus driver but even Ben with a great OL and running game was not asked to do as much as Dak did as a rookie.

Tua IMO is nothing like Mahomes. If those are the expectations of him when he does get to the NFL...many will be disappointed IMO.
Mahommes went to a playoff caliber team too. Makes a big difference. But I love the kid. KC will be a contender for an era. It’s easier to surround that level of talent too.
 
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