Trade Taco to Bucs? JPP fractured neck

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QuincyCarterEra said:
Cowboys and Raiders beat writer Marcus Mosher was the one who came up with this idea of trading we with the Bucs, not google.
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Mosher is not a beat writer. He is a blogger that was a poster here for several years.

2018:
Browns trade former 2nd rounder Deshone Kizer for starting CB Damarious Randall after one year in Cleaveland

2015 #30 for 2017 #52.

Browns trade former 1st rounder Danny Shelton for 3rd rounder after three seasons with Browns.

Shelton + 2018 5th for 2019 3rd
A future 3rd from the Pats is going to be assumed to be at the end of the round making it almost a 4th. A pick 1 year in the future is generally valued at 1 full round lower; therefore the basically 4th round pick has 5th round value because it's a year away.

The Browns basically got the equivalent of a 2018 early 5th round pick but they gave up their own 2018 5th round pick.

Shelton was almost free to the Patriots.


2017:
Former 1st rounder Kelvin Benjamin traded for a 3rd and 7th after three seasons with Panthers.

Against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Benjamin recorded 6 receptions for 92 yards and one touchdown; quarterback Derek Anderson had a 152.1 quarterback rating when throwing towards Benjamin.[23][24] With his touchdown reception, Benjamin joined Randy Moss, Calvin Johnson, AJ Green, Demaryius Thomas, Percy Harvin, Brandin Cooks, and Mike Williams as the only rookie first round wide receivers to catch a touchdown reception during their debut performance.[25] Additionally, Benjamin's 92 yards were the seventh-most for a wide receiver in the first game of his rookie season behind Anquan Boldin, Randy Moss, Eddie Royal, DeSean Jackson, Julian Edelman, Demaryius Thomas, and Allen Hurns.[26] Kelvin Benjamin was voted the Pepsi NFL Rookie of the Week for his Week 1 performance.[27] In a Week 2 win over the Detroit Lions, Benjamin recorded 2 catches for 46 yards.[28]In Week 3 against the Pittsburgh Steelers, Benjamin recorded his first 100-yard game, catching 8 passes for 115 yards and one touchdown.[29] Through the first three weeks of the season, Benjamin was targeted seven times in the deep passing game (20+ yards), tied for sixth in the league.[30] Additionally, during this span, ProFootball Focus ranked Benjamin 22nd in the NFL in receiving efficiency.[31] During Week 4 against the Baltimore Ravens, Benjamin recorded 5 receptions for 76 yards and a touchdown.[28] With the touchdown reception, Benjamin became the only rookie wide receiver in the past 10 years to record a 25+ yard receiving touchdown in three of the team’s first four games, joining Randy Moss, who accomplished the feat in 1998.[32] Further, Benjamin and Marques Colstonwere the only rookies in 30 years to gain 300 receiving yards and catch three touchdown passes in his team’s first four games.[33] On October 2, 2014, it was announced that the NFL named Kelvin Benjamin the NFL Offensive Rookie of the Month for September.[34] In the Panthers Week 8 matchup against the defending champion Seattle Seahawks, Benjamin racked up 94 yards against the All-Pro cornerback Richard Sherman, the highest yardage total Sherman allowed since Week 4 of 2012.[35]Benjamin finished the season with 73 receptions, 1,008 yards receiving, and 9 touchdowns. He and teammate Greg Olsen became the first receiving duo to amass 1,000 receiving yards in the same year for the Panthers since Muhsin Muhammad and Patrick Jeffers in 1999. Benjamin became only the 11th rookie wide receiver in NFL history to record a 1,000 yard season. During the Panthers playoff loss to the Seattle Seahawks, Benjamin recorded 7 catches for 75 yards and 2 touchdowns.[28]


Former 4th rounder and starter Jay Ajayi traded for a 4th rounder after two and half seasons with Dolphons.

If the proposal was Taco for a 4th then it would be a more reasonable conversation.

Ajayi followed up a Week 6 204-yard and two touchdown performance against the Pittsburgh Steelers with a 214-yard and one touchdown effort against AFC East rival Buffalo in Week 7, becoming only the fourth player in NFL history along with O. J. Simpson (twice), Earl Campbell, and former Miami Dolphin Ricky Williams to rush for over two hundred yards in two consecutive games.[34][35][36][37] Ajayi was named AFC Offensive Player of the Week two weeks in a row for his 200+ rushing yards in back-to-back games in Weeks 6 and 7. In Week 16, on Christmas Eve, Ajayi recorded a third 200-yard game, again at the expense of the Buffalo Bills, including a 57-yard rush to set Andrew Franks up to kick a game-winning field goal in overtime.[38] With his 32 carries for 206 yards and a touchdown, he became only the fourth player in NFL history to rush over 200 yards in three games in a single season,[39] and the only player to do it as early as his second season. As a result of his Week 16 performance, he became one of only 15 players in NFL history with three or more career 200+ yard rushing games. In the 30-12 loss to the Pittsburgh Steelers in the Wild Card Round of the playoffs, he had 16 carries for 33 yards in his playoff debut.[40] As a result of his successful season in 2016, he was named to the AFC roster for the 2017 Pro Bowl. In the Pro Bowl, he had seven rushes for 18 yards.[41] He was ranked 69th on the NFL Top 100 Players of 2017 list by his fellow players.[42]

Former 1st rounder Cameron Erving who was the worst graded Olineman in two of his seasons was traded to the Chiefs for a 5th.

A 5th...

 
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This board seems confused about Taco. On one hand he sucks, but on the other he's a tradable commodity. :huh:
 
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charron said:
So many "fans" willing to throw away a player cause they have crazy expectations. Taco wasn't going to be a 10 sack guy out the gate. They knew, you knew, I knew he needed some development so give the guy another year. He isn't the worst DE in the league. Is more productive than most of the DE's picked after him and we absolutely need the insurance with DLaw not finishing a season healthy in years.
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Even though I have been pretty hard on Taco, I am still rooting for him to make an impact. This could be his year.

But there is very little evidence to support that he wasn’t overdrafted at this point in his career. He will probably have to rely on technique and power because he isn’t very fast. Maybe he has finally acquired the strength he needs to compete.

He is decent against the run, he just hasn’t been a very effective pass rusher so far.
 
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charron said:
I know what he's done. And you can not name a single 4-3 defensive end taken after taco with better production.
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Who cares if others have done no better, or worse? That has no bearing on whether or not he will remain on the Cowboys. And two years is plenty enough time to "develop". He had 3 sacks his first year, in 16 games, or about one per 5 games. In his second year he had ONE in 11 games, obviously he didn't "develop" but actually regressed.

And it's not just my evaluation, per sites like The Landry Hat "The fact is Taco Charlton is facing more competition than ever in 2019. And he’s skated by on his lofty draft status for two-straight seasons in Dallas. But according to Will McClay, that will not be the case in Year Three. It’s finally sink or swim for young Mr. Charlton."

That's straight from McClay with the Cowboys.

I'd like to see him "come on" this year, but I'm not holding my breath...
 
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Section446 said:
They wouldn't give us anything.
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Well, you never know, teams do some crazy things sometimes, and teams can have a rash of injuries at the DE spot, or any other spot, and get desperate, but most likely they'd wait for Taco to be cut, it's not like he would be cut due to the salary cap or the Cowboys having a glut of really good DEs so that a "pretty good" Taco just wasn't quite as good as others...
 
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Jake said:
This board seems confused about Taco. On one hand he sucks, but on the other he's a tradable commodity. :huh:
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He sucks, and he's a tradeable commodity because he's young, has a pedigree, and there is always some coach that thinks he can do a better job than another of tapping his potential. Just like Gerald McCoy is way overpaid, so he's a tradeable commodity. Everyone has a value and its in the eye of the beholder.
 
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charron said:
I know what he's done. And you can not name a single 4-3 defensive end taken after taco with better production.
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Blimey and brim blast!
They suck more than we?
Is that what we have come to??!!???
You exemplify the almost-playoffs crowd. Too easily satisfied. 8-8 is your dream.
 
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I'm flabbergasted that the talk about JPP is whether his 2019 season will be saved or not. Seems to me that if a player breaks his neck, the only thing he should be contemplating is his instant retirement and what kind of life he can have during retirement.
 
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