Twitter: Helman makes his case for Dak as 4th highest paid QB

cowboyec · May 8, 2019

'MERICA'S QB :starspin:

cowboy_ron · May 8, 2019

Hawkeye0202 said:
Just me but he nails it IMO ( several fans/posters been preaching all THREE )

DasSchnitzel · May 8, 2019

Sydla said:
Market.

He’s barely a top ten QB, if that. And the only reason this team is thinking of paying a QB of that caliber Top 3-4 money is because they are bowing to the market.

I think it’s stupid as is the logic that hey, it’s Ok to sign him to a huge contract now because it won’t be a top 3-4 contract in 4 years.

But it seems destined to happen so it is what it is.

Fact of the matter is that we aren't finding a better option without tanking for a year or mortgaging the future.

Giving out a contract that's top 5 now , top 10 in a year, and average by 2021 is not the same as trading a bunch of picks. You get one first rounder given to you every year and that isnt changing. The market is.

So there are your options. Use a ton of picks to jump to the top of the 1st, have a tank-tastic season, or give a fair market value contract to a guy that has won 2 division titles in 3 years. That choice isnt half as difficult as many on here would lead you to believe.

Rayman70 · May 8, 2019

LOVE DAK...but I just dunno about this.

Idgit · May 8, 2019

Well see if it eclipses 30M. I don’t think it will with his fourth year still to be played. They’ll give him the money a year early and knock money off the AAV spread out over a five year deal.

I think he comes in just over the deal Cousins signed but with more guaranteed money.

Rayman70 · May 8, 2019

Amari will get done. No worries. QB is more important. Zeke will get his next year. No reason to re-up Zeke this offseason.

OmerV · May 8, 2019

Sydla said:
Market.

He’s barely a top ten QB, if that. And the only reason this team is thinking of paying a QB of that caliber Top 3-4 money is because they are bowing to the market.

I think it’s stupid as is the logic that hey, it’s Ok to sign him to a huge contract now because it won’t be a top 3-4 contract in 4 years.

But it seems destined to happen so it is what it is.

That’s not the logic though. The logic is that’s the price of doing business today, and you can’t compete if you want to pay the prices of the past.

A person can dislike the price of quality a car in today’s world, but if that person won’t pay today’s prices he is going to have to settle for the base model Hyundai

ESisback · May 8, 2019

AsthmaField said:
I’m fine with it. The sooner it happens, the sooner it will get surpassed by other deals.

Prescott has so many intangibles like toughness, heart, smarts, and leadership. If his physical abilities continue to grow to match his intangibles, it is going to be a huge bargain.

His team mates will run through a wall for him, he is clutch as all hell, and he’s an extremely hard worker. Not to mention that he’s a winner and always has been.

I’m ready for it to get done.

Yeah, me too! Tired of talking about it. Nothing we can do anyway.

“Despite all my rage, I’m still just a rat in a cage”
—Smashing Pumpkins

DallasDW00ds0n · May 8, 2019

Im not thrilled about it but it is what it is. Daks gonna get paid, lets do it and move on

Sydla · May 8, 2019

DasSchnitzel said:
Fact of the matter is that we aren't finding a better option without tanking for a year or mortgaging the future.

Giving out a contract that's top 5 now , top 10 in a year, and average by 2021 is not the same as trading a bunch of picks. You get one first rounder given to you every year and that isnt changing. The market is.

So there are your options. Use a ton of picks to jump to the top of the 1st, have a tank-tastic season, or give a fair market value contract to a guy that has won 2 division titles in 3 years. That choice isnt half as difficult as many on here would lead you to believe.

Or you could let him play the 2019 season under his existing contract, see if he’s progressed further then tag him or sign him long term in 2020.

There is no gun to their heads to get this done now.

Sydla · May 8, 2019

OmerV said:
That’s not the logic though. The logic is that’s the price of doing business today, and you can’t compete if you want to pay the prices of the past.

A person can dislike the price of quality a car in today’s world, but if that person won’t pay today’s prices he is going to have to settle for the base model Hyundai

Why does he have to be signed now?

This might make more sense if they had no choice. But they have options.

OmerV · May 8, 2019

Sydla said:
Why does he have to be signed now?

This might make more sense if they had no choice. But they have options.

I agree they have the option to wait, but the price tag isn’t likely to change for the better. Im sure they don’t want to wait until after the season because then their backs will be against the wall to make something happen. I’m no expert on the salary cap, but I saw someone mention that by signing him now some of the cap hit may be absorbed this year, leaving more cap space next year for Zeke and others.

robertfchew · May 8, 2019

RoyalCowboy said:
The guy has heart, is industrious, doesn't quit and most importantly is a winner. I'll take that anyday.

I hope that is enough to overcome. Theyre gonna have to hit on some defensive players in the draft.

Aerolithe_Lion · May 8, 2019

Why does it always feel like people are trying to convince themselves they like Dak in these threads? I won't dispute any of the compliments to him, mainly because they're mostly right, but you never see people profusely soapboxing their QB's 'intangibles' on any other board. Are you guys building a defensive imaginary wall for when the naysayers come in? Like shielding this thread, is that it?

RoyalCowboy said:
The guy has heart, is industrious, doesn't quit and most importantly is a winner. I'll take that anyday.

Like this, for example. What does this even mean? Rex Grossman was all this, and he went to a super bowl. Are you saying you'd be proud if Dak was the next Rex Grossman? Of course not. So why even post this?

And the Dak vs Romo stuff. Who cares? Romo is retired, and he's not coming back. Dak has no competition right now, so it doesn't matter how much you need to convince anybody he's great. He's the QB one way or the other.

Qcard · May 8, 2019

AsthmaField said:
I’m fine with it. The sooner it happens, the sooner it will get surpassed by other deals.

Prescott has so many intangibles like toughness, heart, smarts, and leadership. If his physical abilities continue to grow to match his intangibles, it is going to be a huge bargain.

His team mates will run through a wall for him, he is clutch as all hell, and he’s an extremely hard worker. Not to mention that he’s a winner and always has been.

I’m ready for it to get done.

Intangibles...unquantifiable stat!

The key to Dak is that these intangibles show up evident in the 4th Qtr.

DasSchnitzel · May 8, 2019

Sydla said:
Or you could let him play the 2019 season under his existing contract, see if he’s progressed further then tag him or sign him long term in 2020.

There is no gun to their heads to get this done now.

In one year we're probably discussing low 30s per year and that's not factoring in that bidding wars happen on the open market every offseason.

Barring a career ending injury or a total collapse this season, Dak is going to be a Cowboy for the next few years at least. Do it now and save. Just my opinion.

Floatyworm · May 8, 2019

Hawkeye0202 said:
Just me but he nails it IMO ( several fans/posters been preaching all THREE )

Jesus christ... :banghead:

How the hell did this guy EVER get a job with Cowboys?

He knows nothing about the draft....

Barely watches any games....

The salary cap....He's never heard of it....

He's a Jerry "Yes" man personified....Take what he says with a grain of salt.

Anyway....so he thinks Dak should get top 5 QB money based on....what he has done in the past. :omg:

I guess I should get top 5 money too...since I'm coaching this team from my couch. :popcorn:

DanA · May 8, 2019

And the argument for him not being the 4th is that he’s not a free agent.

Sure, if he was, he might deservingly be given the 4th largest QB contract but he’s not. You can’t ignore that he’s contracted for 1m this year and can be franchised for about 28m next year.

2019 - 1m
2020 - 28m
2021 - 35m
2022 - 35m
2023 - 35m
Average - 26.8m per year..Nowhere near the high end for QB’s and 35m is what Aaron Rodgers would get as a free agent.

Every other QB getting these massive contracts don’t have to overcome a contracted year where he’s paid peanuts.

Bobhaze · May 9, 2019

The Dak contract price should be no surprise to anyone paying attention to what NFL teams pay for the QB position. Even a guy like Sam Bradford, who has never done anything other than haul $129 million in earnings for having an 18-30-1 record as a starter and never even winning a playoff game.

So anyone saying Dak, with three straight winning seasons, two division titles and a playoff win isn’t worth tying up in a multi-year contract at market value is simply not paying any attention to the NFL market for QBs. Count me among those who are glad Dak Prescott will here for a while...at good market value.

PAPPYDOG · May 9, 2019

Hawkeye0202 said:
Just me but he nails it IMO ( several fans/posters been preaching all THREE )

30,000,000$$$$ a year for this accurate QB of ours .... ya right...... :omg:

Twitter: Helman makes his case for Dak as 4th highest paid QB

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