My draft review

CalPolyTechnique · May 8, 2019

Alexander said:
Kickoff returner only unless he gets to work and learns how to effectively field punts.

I think his abilities as a receiver are a little overblown.

He is not horrible at it, but many of his catches were scripted throws like bubble screens and slants. He is not some frightening route runner downfield that should terrify a defense.

Who sold him as a master route runner?

Risen Star · May 8, 2019

Alexander said:
Or Rapp.

Or Adderley.

Mind-boggling.

The draft fell perfectly for them and they still passed.

Risen Star · May 8, 2019

northerncowboynation said:
Jeebus the draft is over. Go to your room, sulk a bit, hit the bags, lick your wounds because your guy didn't get picked. As far as top 15 in the first round next year, please let's not start that crap before the season even begins. You're right on one thing, let's put it behind us but you put it way down at the bottom.

You're in the Draft Zone.

Risen Star · May 8, 2019

Alexander said:
And if that means no Elliott, that's a loss.

21 personnel with both of them is about the only way to get the best out of it.

I know I'm in the minority but it's insanity to me.

Imagine if back in the early 90's we decided to lessen Emmitt's load by bringing in Tony Pollard to handle 3rd downs.

It makes as much sense now as it would have then.

Alexander · May 8, 2019

Risen Star said:
I know I'm in the minority but it's insanity to me.

Imagine if back in the early 90's we decided to lessen Emmitt's load by bringing in Tony Pollard to handle 3rd downs.

It makes as much sense now as it would have then.

But this is a different game now. I know it is hard to deal with but the only team who plays like we used to in the 1990s is the Seahawks and their vaunted rushing game got shut down by the same rushing defense that had a fat potroast belly back rip it apart a week later.

The game really is about trickery and what not. Andy Reid is right at the top of that game and it shows in his offense. Payton too.

I just don't think we have the minds available to make this Pollard thing work.

Risen Star · May 8, 2019

Alexander said:
But this is a different game now. I know it is hard to deal with but the only team who plays like we used to in the 1990s is the Seahawks and their vaunted rushing game got shut down by the same rushing defense that had a fat potroast belly back rip it apart a week later.

The game really is about trickery and what not. Andy Reid is right at the top of that game and it shows in his offense. Payton too.

I just don't think we have the minds available to make this Pollard thing work.

The Seahawks vaunted running game is inflated by a running QB. They do not have an Ezekiel Elliott. I'd have no problem using a 3rd down back with their RBs.

But when you draft a back 4th overall and he does nothing but win rushing titles, I'm not about to lessen his load because you're scared. He's 23 years old, for Christ sake. You'd have to be a football idiot to think Tony Pollard on the field instead of Ezekiel Elliott makes you a better offense.

Melonfeud · May 8, 2019

Risen Star said:
I know I'm in the minority but it's insanity to me.

Imagine if back in the early 90's we decided to lessen Emmitt's load by bringing in Tony Pollard to handle 3rd downs.

It makes as much sense now as it would have then.

I'll admit to being less than(<) euphoric in seeing our team yard home TWO draft picked running backs,,,as the total non utilization of one of them,,,is mind numbingly devoid of any footballish logic in my playbook

Alexander · May 8, 2019

Risen Star said:
The Seahawks vaunted running game is inflated by a running QB. They do not have an Ezekiel Elliott. I'd have no problem using a 3rd down back with their RBs.

But when you draft a back 4th overall and he does nothing but win rushing titles, I'm not about to lessen his load because you're scared. He's 23 years old, for Christ sake. You'd have to be a football idiot to think Tony Pollard on the field instead of Ezekiel Elliott makes you a better offense.

But if you are like, tricky, it could like work out and stuff.

Like I said, we don't have the offensive minds in place to make the Pollard experiment work any more than the Dunbar one did.

CalPolyTechnique · May 8, 2019

I don’t get the angst over the 128th pick of the draft.

Would you be upset if Pollard gets 44-45 rushing attempts this season? That’s what Rod Smith got spelling Zeke last season and I’m guessing Pollard will Do more with those limited touches.

I know folks want to act like Zeke is Superman in every facet of football but he’s not. He’s a good receiver relatively speaking as a RB, but he’s not some dynamic pass catcher like say Marshall Faulk. I think Pollard can be utilized in that regard and reduce some of Zeke’s cumulative touches. There are snaps on passing downs where Zeke just serves as an outlet in the flat. Sometimes the ball does go to him and he scrambles for whatever he can manage. Those are game/down situations where Pollard can be subbed in that will help mitigate the wear and tear on him over the course of a season.

atlantacowboy · May 8, 2019

Agreed on the Trysten. Not only was he mostly an unproductive underachiever in college, but he was also a head case butting heads with the coaching staff at UCF. He's exactly the kind of player we should be avoiding. And if thats not enough, dude has suspiciously feminine name. Anyone check the chromosomes?

Risen Star · May 8, 2019

CalPolyTechnique said:
I don’t get the angst over the 128th pick of the draft.

Would you be upset if Pollard gets 44-45 rushing attempts this season? That’s what Rod Smith got spelling Zeke last season and I’m guessing Pollard will Do more with those limited touches.

I know folks want to act like Zeke is Superman in every facet of football but he’s not. He’s a good receiver relatively speaking as a RB, but he’s not some dynamic pass catcher like say Marshall Faulk. I think Pollard can be utilized in that regard and reduce some of Zeke’s cumulative touches. There are snaps on passing downs where Zeke just serves as an outlet in the flat. Sometimes the ball does go to him and he scrambles for whatever he can manage. Those are game/down situations where Pollard can be subbed in that will help mitigate the wear and tear on him over the course of a season.

Rod Smith wasn't filling the Lance Dunbar role. He was the backup RB. Mike Weber is now the backup RB and I have no problem with that pick.

Risen Star · May 8, 2019

atlantacowboy said:
Agreed on the Trysten. Not only was he mostly an unproductive underachiever in college, but he was also a head case butting heads with the coaching staff at UCF. He's exactly the kind of player we should be avoiding. And if thats not enough, dude has suspiciously feminine name. Anyone check the chromosomes?

We let Rod Marinelli dictate that pick. Hope it works out but I have zero reason to believe it will. He's the kind of guy that even if he does have some success you have to worry about how he'll handle it.

CowboyChris · May 8, 2019

Risen Star said:
He was not drafted to be the returner. His specialty returning kicks is nearly phased out of the NFL. He was drafted to be Lance Dunbar in the offense.

I read that Pollard played alot as a slot WR, maybe he fits that role, and some 3rd down roles. Dont be too quick dismiss that pick, I agree with the rest of your assesment, and I too didnt like the Hill pick...but what irks me the most...is that there is a leaker in the FO, we all knew 2 years ago we were taking Vander Esch, and this year it seemed like if Hill was there he would be the guy in the 2nd round.

Risen Star · May 8, 2019

CowboyChris said:
I too didnt like the Hill pick...but what irks me the most...is that there is a leaker in the FO, we all knew 2 years ago we were taking Vander Esch, and this year it seemed like if Hill was the guy in the 2nd round.

The problem is the leaker could be Jerry and/or Stephen. They simply don't care enough to keep things within the war room.

Even the Pollard pick was forecasted. That Saturday morning that's what all the media types were talking about. Pollard to the Cowboys today.

RS12 · May 8, 2019

Risen Star said:
I know I'm in the minority but it's insanity to me.

Imagine if back in the early 90's we decided to lessen Emmitt's load by bringing in Tony Pollard to handle 3rd downs.

It makes as much sense now as it would have then.

We did in the mid 90s, Sherman Williams, remember? Worked out great.

DanA · May 9, 2019

Risen Star said:
The Seahawks vaunted running game is inflated by a running QB. They do not have an Ezekiel Elliott. I'd have no problem using a 3rd down back with their RBs.

But when you draft a back 4th overall and he does nothing but win rushing titles, I'm not about to lessen his load because you're scared. He's 23 years old, for Christ sake. You'd have to be a football idiot to think Tony Pollard on the field instead of Ezekiel Elliott makes you a better offense.

Zeke had the most carrys in the league last year. It’s not a bad thing to reduce that work load a little even if he was the 4th overall pick.

Rogerthat12 · May 12, 2019

Alexander said:
But this is a different game now. I know it is hard to deal with but the only team who plays like we used to in the 1990s is the Seahawks and their vaunted rushing game got shut down by the same rushing defense that had a fat potroast belly back rip it apart a week later.

The game really is about trickery and what not. Andy Reid is right at the top of that game and it shows in his offense. Payton too.

I just don't think we have the minds available to make this Pollard thing work.

Yes, we have "Moore" of the same...lol

Risen Star · May 13, 2019

DanA said:
Zeke had the most carrys in the league last year. It’s not a bad thing to reduce that work load a little even if he was the 4th overall pick.

Emmitt spent the bulk of his career getting the most carries in the league.

Because he was great and men were still men back then.

Hardline · May 13, 2019

McGovern is the only pick I see as a safe bet.
There were much better RBs still on the board than Pollard. Change of pace back literally means nothing to me
I'm not even going to factor in the kick off when I draft when 80% of them go over your head in the back of the end zone.
Hill may surprise us. There's a rookie defensive player that plays surprisingly lights out every year in the NFL.Last year it was Darius Leonard Hopefully this year it's Hill.

CalPolyTechnique · May 14, 2019

Hardline said:
McGovern is the only pick I see as a safe bet.
There were much better RBs still on the board than Pollard. Change of pace back literally means nothing to me
I'm not even going to factor in the kick off when I draft when 80% of them go over your head in the back of the end zone.
Hill may surprise us. There's a rookie defensive player that plays surprisingly lights out every year in the NFL.Last year it was Darius Leonard Hopefully this year it's Hill.

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