A nice play for Zeke and Austin/Pollard

conner01 · May 15, 2019

cowboy_ron said:
It has to be better than the "Princeton" failures we've had for 10 years.

Moore will call the Statue of Liberty play at some point

waldoputty · May 15, 2019

Future said:
None because it doesn't really work in the RZ. It didn't work for either.

In the Chiefs example, the Colts DE blew his edge contain. In the Cowboys play, the DE didn't hold C-gap leverage and the unblocked LB went to the wrong gap because of it (might be other way around, hard to know without assignments). In either play, it doesn't work if the defense maintains any discipline.

Without a play fake to get a false step from LBs, this play is useless more than once or twice a season. With the play fake, it's basically a standard jet sweep.

to stop zeke, how often would u say defenses maintain their discipline?

Future · May 15, 2019

waldoputty said:
to stop zeke, how often would u say defenses maintain their discipline?

Constantly. That's how you stop Zeke against this offense lol.

The Commanders game is a perfect example of that. They gave Swearinger autonomy to defend the run first, and the rest of the front 7 just had to fill a gap. That left Swearinger to just mirror Zeke or fill in the only open gap. It works when everyone is disciplined and you have an extra defender in the box, regardless of if you are in a nickel or base package.

Oz-of-Cowboy-Country · May 15, 2019

northerncowboynation said:
Let's give it to Noah! He built the ark and floated all them animules right! No sextant or nothin. He'd be a natural for that play, you go boi!

This is your brain on drugs.

*****BEFORE BREAKFAST *****

Ha,ha,ha.

Hardline · May 15, 2019

I got a better idea. Lets give the ball to Zeke and let him run between the tackles and the OL destroy the guy in front of them.

northerncowboynation · May 15, 2019

Oz-of-Cowboy-Country said:
This is your brain on drugs.

*****BEFORE BREAKFAST *****

Ha,ha,ha.

nah, I had breakfast, lunch too in fact newbie

xwalker · May 15, 2019

conner01 said:
He ran some creative stuff with them
It’s a gimmick but it gives teams something to think about that you can run other things of of

Those types of plays were not gimmicks for Boise State. It was just part of their offense.

Most of their plays were not overly complicated.

They would change things up just enough to see if defenses would fail to adjust.

Oz-of-Cowboy-Country · May 15, 2019

northerncowboynation said:
nah, I had breakfast, lunch too in fact newbie

I'll just blame it in too much Canadian bacon.

northerncowboynation · May 15, 2019

Oz-of-Cowboy-Country said:
I'll just blame it in too much Canadian bacon.

k newbs

buybuydandavis · May 15, 2019

waldoputty said:
pulled from btb article: https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/201...ing-passing-game-elliott-dak-prescott-cowboys

relatively simple to execute also

Nice in concept, but I don't think you're gaining much by the pitch instead of a handoff, and the pitch has a lot more risk to it. Jet sweep/fake jet sweep accomplishes about the same.

The main bit about misdirection is to threaten attack in more than one direction at once. You don't have to be cutesy about it. Handoffs, jet sweeps, reverses, bootlegs, RPOs. Pick.

This all works best when the QB has multiple options on the play, and decides which option to take based on what he sees from the defense. Dak has experience doing just that in college, and is good at it. Our offense should have been built around this since 2017.

This is how we make the investment in the oline pay off too. Lots and lots of run plays, requiring multiple runners to spread the load, with the common element of letting the oline pound the other team on every play.

conner01 · May 15, 2019

xwalker said:
Those types of plays were not gimmicks for Boise State. It was just part of their offense.

Most of their plays were not overly complicated.

They would change things up just enough to see if defenses would fail to adjust.

One of the great parts of those types of plays is once you’ve used them in a couple games, your future opponents have seen and have to think about them
When a player is thinking about lots of options he is more likely to be out of position

waldoputty · May 15, 2019

Future said:
Constantly. That's how you stop Zeke against this offense lol.

The Commanders game is a perfect example of that. They gave Swearinger autonomy to defend the run first, and the rest of the front 7 just had to fill a gap. That left Swearinger to just mirror Zeke or fill in the only open gap. It works when everyone is disciplined and you have an extra defender in the box, regardless of if you are in a nickel or base package.

but the lbs have to lined up in a more aggressive position?

Future · May 16, 2019

waldoputty said:
but the lbs have to lined up in a more aggressive position?

Not really. It's just gap assignment football, the free runner was Swearinger on the strong side.
https://ibb.co/T2QFHfG

The FS and Will had man responsibilities, the Will and Swearinger had edge responsibilities. I suppose Swearinger and the Will could have switched, roles, depending on the play, but it was generally Swearinger running around making plays.

This is what happens when you don't win the numbers game. Fronts can easily just fill gaps and allow unblocked defenders playside.

Future · May 16, 2019

conner01 said:
One of the great parts of those types of plays is once you’ve used them in a couple games, your future opponents have seen and have to think about them
When a player is thinking about lots of options he is more likely to be out of position

In theory...but in practicality, every defensive scheme/play has backside support. It's not like teams aren't aware of a reverse, end around, sweep to the weak side.

Generally, those plays are only called when a team has already seen that the weakside edge is crashing too hard and to exploit it. They don't run them to keep teams honest.

Melonfeud · May 16, 2019

waldoputty said:
This play is not necessarily the best for the goal line even if it worked here, especially if the ball goes to the person running across.

,,,er,,,unless of course that person was the #73 J.Looney WHO lined up in what has to be a tucked-in T.E. position,,,then that "play" is solid K.M. GOLDEN,,, EVERY TIME IT'S TRIED ,,,

*ya,,,I know things

Melonfeud · May 16, 2019

northerncowboynation said:
Let's give it to Noah! He built the ark and floated all them animules right! No sextant or nothin. He'd be a natural for that play, you go boi!

* Noah kept all them animules D.N.A. gameplay in that fashionable handbag of his ,,,BABY!

*Just like all those ANUNNAKI gods still present day existing on raised relief MASSIVE stone block carvings are portrayed to of been sportin'

A nice play for Zeke and Austin/Pollard

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