TexasHillbilly
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Thank goodness it was not a woman.
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OmerV
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You are living in a fantasy world.
First of all, every person should worry about actions that could potentially land him in jail, whether he is an athlete or not.
Second, it goes with the territory that athletes become celebrities and are in the spotlight. That's not a secret to anyone else, including the athlete, nor should it be to you. Athlete's don't get to pretend they are Joe Schmo who works in the local feed lot and has too many drinks at the county fair in Topeka, Kansas. And the reality is, Mr. Schmo could get arrested for the same actions in Topeka, Kansas, just as Zeke could have. For all we know, Zeke's celebrity may be what kept him out of jail.
And 3rd, the NFL is not the only business that does not want high profile members of it's organization caught on camera being sloppy drunk and acting stupidly, nor is it the only business that has the ability and willingness to take action when someone does so. The NFL is a consumer oriented business, and it's natural they would frown on high profile employees being seen in a bad light.
As for what he blew (other than an opportunity to conduct himself in a responsible manner) that proves he was sloppy drunk, being sloppy isn't about the number, it's about the actions. Some can have a higher alcohol content and remain relaxed and not bother anyone, and others with a lesser alcohol content can act like an idiot. Regardless of what he would have blown if tested, Zeke acted sloppy and like an idiot.
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Blah blah blah blah blah. Yes, athletes are celebrities, but it is an indictment of YOU, not of Zeke, if you care about that video. It's clickbait and heavily edited so as to be misleading.
You are making assumptions that you know he was sloppy drunk. You don't know anything, and don't know what the security guard said/did. Is it stupid if Zeke got in his face b/c the guard called him the N word?
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That video is not 'clickbait'...... Zeke had to be restrained because he was being very aggressive with his girlfriend and with the security guard..... it could easily be considered assault and battery
You are not allowed to knock people over, especially when you are a big professional athlete
He is very lucky he wasn't charged and he still could be
It is not DV or armed robbery but it is not nothing and is now a pattern with Elliott and the team should be very concerned about his partying and his temper
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OmerV
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I care about that video because it could affect his availability to play football for the team I am a fan of. I want the guy to have a long future of success with the Cowboys, not be another talented idiot who couldn't get his stuff together. If it weren't for that I wouldn't care one iota if he was a drunk idiot that got thrown in jail.
As for making assumptions that he was drunk, I'll say this - if he wasn't, he is an even bigger idiot than I think because that would mean he acted like that sober.
But really, have you never been around drunk guys that acted like that before? I've seen it a thousand times. It takes a lot to assume he had a clear mind while acting like that.
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Dude is sloppy and a party animal... we know he smokes weed and does X too
We all look the other way or try to protect him when he shows up out of shape
He has problems and should not be extended
He could have very easily been arrested if the guard filed a complaint.... it is not a conspiracy that he was very aggressive with his girl and with the security guards
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Exactly ..... it was clear he was about to go off
I have been that belligerent drunk and have seen that behavior hundreds of time in my youth
Zeke has some issues with partying and violence.... the sooner he gets some help the better
Coddling him and denying it is not helping anyone
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I wonder how people would react if it were there own son in their mid 20's? Would they say "it's okay that you almost got arrested - you are young and it's okay to act like that", or would they say "son, you have a real opportunity to be successful and make a great life for yourself, and decisions and actions like this can only jeopardize that"?
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No, you and everyone else cares about that video because people try to paint Zeke into a particular character.
I'll ask again, what if the guy called him the N-word? Would it matter how drunk he was to get in the guy's face?
I've been around sober guys who were like that, some people are just jerks. But again, we don't know what started it all.
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I don’t see a suspension from this. I know the NFL said he was on a short lease, but I really think this was in regards to domestic violence against women (whether it was true or false to begin with).
I don’t think the NFL benefits from suspending players for being caught staggering drunk on camera and talking tough to another dude. Yes he was being a little physical...but he didn’t throw a punch.
Zeke does need to grow the *** up though...
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I care because it shows yet another example of Elliott not using very sound judgment.
As a one off incident, agreed, it's not a huge deal. Another in a pattern of stuff? Yeah, it's a bigger deal.
I mean at this point, how in the world can you try to argue that Elliott isn't kind of a knucklehead off the field?
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He has a huge target on his back and he doesn't seem to care
He likes to party way too much and he also seems to have a anger issue
I am more inclined to believe the first girl at this point..... he won't listen to common sense
He has had drug issues since OSU and fans like @Future want to ignore it call us names for not condoning it on our team
Zeke will have more issues in the future if he doesn't get help..... people willing to risk what he has to party no longer have control of their demons or feel untouchable because of their successes
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lol - thanks for the nonsensical depiction of my thoughts. I don't care about Joe Schmo getting arrested, so what's the difference with Zeke? Obviously it's that he is a valued member of the Dallas Cowboys who I have been a fan of for almost 50 years. But why go with the logical explanation of why I care when you can go with the nonsensical emotional option?
I don't recall you asking me before, so you can't be asking again, but if there is proof the guy used the N-word it makes some difference, but we don't have that proof, and Zeke was still acting erratically and being an ******* to the girl even aside from what happened with the security guard. Zeke has to be smart enough to stay away from situations that could lead to problems. And that's the bottom line of it all. If a person makes smart decisions he wont regularly find himself in bad situations like Zeke does.
As for your last comment, do you think it helps Zeke's image to suggest he is that much of an idiot sober? Nobody really cares that he drank too much, it's the acting like an idiot part that is the problem.
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Wait is Future trying to argue that he wasn't drunk or even high? You can tell just from the way he's walking around at times.
And your 2nd paragraph is spot on. If he wasn't drunk, he looks like an even bigger jack hole.
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I haven't read all of the posts in this thread but suspect my sense of disappointment and dread probably mirrors many others.
Why disappointment? Whether a celebrity or not, it is virtually impossible to be anywhere today without someone having a smart phone available to record even the most seemingly innocent event and broadcast on social media. George Orwell's 1984 predicted an all-seeing, omnipresent government - he would not be the least be surprised to find that the "government" he invisioned was actually a phone toting public. Recognition of this fact has altered my behavior in public to be much more circumspect. Zeke, of all people, should be painfully aware the consequences of boorish public behavior.
Why "dread"? Zeke has displayed a pattern of behavior that suggests he really hasn't learned from the past. Or, maybe he believes he is above the fray. Regardless, I dread that this sort of behavior will continue. And before I get blasted with the boys will be boys argue, I don't buy it.
Why disappointment? Whether a celebrity or not, it is virtually impossible to be anywhere today without someone having a smart phone available to record even the most seemingly innocent event and broadcast on social media. George Orwell's 1984 predicted an all-seeing, omnipresent government - he would not be the least be surprised to find that the "government" he invisioned was actually a phone toting public. Recognition of this fact has altered my behavior in public to be much more circumspect. Zeke, of all people, should be painfully aware the consequences of boorish public behavior.
Why "dread"? Zeke has displayed a pattern of behavior that suggests he really hasn't learned from the past. Or, maybe he believes he is above the fray. Regardless, I dread that this sort of behavior will continue. And before I get blasted with the boys will be boys argue, I don't buy it.
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Yes, Future has suggested that Zeke may not have been impaired.
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If the guard used a racial word then I understand why he refused to press charges. Being that he is a big named athlete he wouldn’t want what he did get out to public. If this is the case then this whole thing will go away quickly...
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After watching the video footage in its entirety, I don’t think Zeke will face legal or NFL consequences. But I do have several observations which concern me:
When I go to a public event like a concert, movie or sporting event where I have paid to see an event, I expect people at that event to have some respect for the surrounding public. We all have been at a game where some obnoxious drunk thinks he’s funny with his loud, sophomoric behavior like yelling f bombs at a baseball game, or talking loudly at a movie or concert. If you want to do that at a private party, fine. But if you pull that kind of immature obnoxious behavior at a public event, you deserve to be removed. If you think we should all wink at someone actin’ a fool in public, you have some growing up to do yourself.
IMO, Zeke shouldn’t be suspended for this behavior. But he needs to grow up and start acting like a grown man instead of an immature fool.
- Although Zeke didn’t get arrested, his behavior looks like a reckless teenager rather than a grown man.
- Arguing with someone is not a crime, and although no punches or clear shoves seem to have occurred, he does appear to be physically aggressive or at the very least physically reckless.
- If having too much to drink makes you reckless and more physically aggressive, maybe you shouldn’t drink in public.
- This is one of three videos I have seen of Zeke in public where he seems uninhibited about his physical behavior. The last one I saw also occurred in a Dallas bar where an altercation occurred with a bartender. Again, no charges were filed, but it seems to fit a pattern of reckless behavior in public when alcohol was involved.
When I go to a public event like a concert, movie or sporting event where I have paid to see an event, I expect people at that event to have some respect for the surrounding public. We all have been at a game where some obnoxious drunk thinks he’s funny with his loud, sophomoric behavior like yelling f bombs at a baseball game, or talking loudly at a movie or concert. If you want to do that at a private party, fine. But if you pull that kind of immature obnoxious behavior at a public event, you deserve to be removed. If you think we should all wink at someone actin’ a fool in public, you have some growing up to do yourself.
IMO, Zeke shouldn’t be suspended for this behavior. But he needs to grow up and start acting like a grown man instead of an immature fool.
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